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19 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

One last time before a lot of people are suspended. Keep the politics out of this thread. We have an entire forum that is full of that stuff. Take it there. 

I'm sorry. I will simmer down.

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21 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

One last time before a lot of people are suspended. Keep the politics out of this thread. We have an entire forum that is full of that stuff. Take it there. 

My bad, thought it was the other thread and was just following the conversation.

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8 minutes ago, Sneegor said:

No one in leadership said anything of the above.  Stop with the false accusations and keep politics out of here.

I have quotes that say differently

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My county FINALLY got around to issuing a "safer-at-home" order.

Effective tomorrow 10pm <_<

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Billy Graham ads feels like I'm getting my last rites. :unsure:

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28 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

One last time before a lot of people are suspended. Keep the politics out of this thread. We have an entire forum that is full of that stuff. Take it there. 

Thank you.

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2 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:
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1 hour ago, CR69 said:

Because business is booming and he needs workers, not because he's a nice guy. 

If Brees is donating $5m then Bezos should be good for AT LEAST $100m but he's MIA.

What % of your salary are you donating?

How much wealth do you think @CR69 is hoarding?

[note: "hoarding" meaning having more than one needs"]

I don't know if he is or not.  I guarantee there are people in this country that make a fraction of what he does that probably think he's hoarding quite a bit.

Wealth is relative.  

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9 minutes ago, cap'n grunge said:

I'm sorry. I will simmer down.

No one said you can’t complain about the president, people ask that you don’t do it in here. 
 Go to the PSF, shouldn’t be too much to ask 

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3 minutes ago, shuke said:

I don't know if he is or not.  I guarantee there are people in this country that make a fraction of what he does that probably think he's hoarding quite a bit.

Wealth is relative.  

Some wealth is objective. Not trying to imply anything.

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Germany's secret? Lots of testing. They have a lot of small labs in that country. They're testing mild symptomatic people and quarantining the + cases.

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10 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

My county FINALLY got around to issuing a "safer-at-home" order.

Effective tomorrow 10pm <_<

Get your partying done tonight!

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5 minutes ago, bradyfan said:

Tulane Medical Center is my company's current major hotspot.

 

Our next concerns include Rose Medical Center in Denver, Aventura Medical Center in Miami. Frankly, all our hospitals in Miami are a concern, but that one specifically for now.

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1 hour ago, SHIZNITTTT said:

####### people.   So Tulsa has now closed all of the local parks due to people overcrowding and allowing their kids to climb on the playground equipment.  

Kids were all over the playground equipment here two days ago, and people were still playing tennis.  So they shut it down.  They started putting caution tape around playground structures in my town yesterday, locked the tennis courts, and are blocking off the parking lots.  Initially they announced it was all closed - parks, open spaces, trails, etc, but then they backed down and decided to focus on the parking lots to keep people from driving to trail heads or parks or the beach, while allowing people to visit what's in their neighborhood.  So you can walk the dog or go for a run through a park, you just can't drive there from somewhere else to do it.

 

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29 minutes ago, GroveDiesel said:

Seems like churches that don’t like to follow what the Bible actually says. 
 

Titus 3:1: ““Remind the believers to submit to the government and its officers. They should be obedient, always ready to do what is good.”
 

My church has already decided that we are not meeting on Easter, no matter what President Trump decides. It just isn’t worth the risk to our members and our community. There’s a difference between having faith and taking unnecessary risks to do...actually I’m not sure what they’re trying to do exactly.

Our church is in the same position as yours.  I'm curious, how long do you think the leaders of your church would be willing to follow the government on this, and ignore Hebrews 10:25 (Do not neglect meeting together)?  I said about 100 pages ago in this thread that there will be churches that would start meeting eventually, regardless of what government says.  I think if our governor said, "Don't meet again till June 1" our leaders would abide.  If she said, "Don't meet again until I say you can" our leaders will start to chafe at that and eventually rebel - depending on how cv spreads in the near future.  Just curious your thoughts.

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There are people who think "the economy" (which is, if we're being honest on a meta level, mostly made up bull#### that benefits those fortunate enough--including many of us here, yes) is more important on any level than human lives that can be saved. And that thought process is just totally normal because of how skewed our humanity and priorities have become. As if the idea of a society is worth more than the people who actually make up that society. What is the ####### point of all this (I'm talking human civilization) if we're willing to sacrifice lives so that the big numbers some worship can get bigger, to put it simply.

I get that we do this all the time without fully realizing it until it's already a huge problem (see: climate change), and that we've slowly fallen into this mindset because there aren't always lives so obviously in the crosshairs. But this situation feels like much more of a direct, obvious choice between lives and this amorphous idea of big money and "the economy" we've built our society around--a system that doesn't even benefit most people even when things are going swimmingly. If anything could dumb that idea down into the easiest to process argument, it's a crisis like this, you'd think. It's an explicit choice between profits and lives splayed out as directly and raw as you can imagine--usually this stuff is pretty hard to see through the desensitized POV we all have, living how we do. 

This conversation is too big for this thread obviously, but I hope this whole ordeal and the things we show as a society we're able to do to combat it wakes some people up. This should be a turning point, but for some people they'll continue to prefer a perceived sense of normalcy that can turn on them at any moment as easily as it's turning on others now.

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1 hour ago, cosjobs said:

Could you gget out "clean?" - your own sanitized car

Do you have a safe place to go within a tank of gas?

We don't own a car, which complicates things.

But we're looking at our options.

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1 hour ago, gianmarco said:

FWIW, this is from a physician in Tulsa:
 

 

Do you have the doctors name?

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3 minutes ago, hagmania said:

USA will top the world in total cases by EOD.

🇺🇸 

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2 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

There are people who think "the economy" (which is, if we're being honest on a meta level, mostly made up bull#### that benefits those fortunate enough--including many of us here, yes) is more important on any level than human lives that can be saved. And that thought process is just totally normal because of how skewed our humanity and priorities have become. As if the idea of a society is worth more than the people who actually make up that society. What is the ####### point of all this if we're willing to sacrifice lives so that the big numbers some worship can get bigger, to put it simply. I hope this whole ordeal and the things we show as a society we're able to do to combat it wakes some people up. This should be a turning point, but for some people they'll continue to prefer a perceived sense of normalcy that can turn on them at any moment as easily as it's turning on others now.

I sincerely hope that there are some meaningful changes in societal thinking and actions that come out of this - your comment is a perfect example of one we can hope for.

The best chance for large scale changes are with our younger generations... I hope they're watching closely and soaking it all in.

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4 minutes ago, SHIZNITTTT said:

Do you have the doctors name?

Perhaps. Why?

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2 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

@moleculo do you have a spreadsheet going?

i do, but it's not exactly fit for public consumption.

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10 minutes ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

My county FINALLY got around to issuing a "safer-at-home" order.

Effective tomorrow 10pm <_<

Right? I don't get all the shelter in place orders...starting in 2 days. So everybody rush out and get as much done as you can now...together...in stores...lined up for hours...together...:loco:

2 minutes ago, bradyfan said:

Don't bother quoting Daily Mail in here, they are persona non grata 'round here

1 minute ago, CurlyNight said:

Germany's secret? Lots of testing. They have a lot of small labs in that country. They're testing mild symptomatic people and quarantining the + cases.

Interesting so South Korea tested the #### out of anything that moved and had a pretty favorable outcome all things considered. Now you're saying Germany is doing the same and having similar results? Crazy talk man, this stuff is so out of the box, we would have never thought of it :rolleyes:

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@Joe 8ryant recently warned, and I'm doing it here again. Posts about politics in this thread -- starting here -- will not be tolerated.

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RI ordering all NYers travelling here to self-quarantine for 14 days. Lots of "summer homes" here and it's about a 2-3 hour drive depending on which end of each state is the start/end point. National Guard to help at airport / train / bus station(s) and State Police will pull over all NY plates to inform them and get contact information. 

https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus/march-26-ri-coronavirus-update/

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1 minute ago, Clayton Gray said:

@Joe 8ryant recently warned, and I'm doing it here again. Posts about politics in this thread -- starting here -- will not be tolerated.

Joe 8ryant laying down the law, per usual. 😄

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2 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

Perhaps. Why?

Well as a registered nurse working with at risk patients in the Tulsa area I would like to follow someone who may have knowledge about the virus.

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Before posting, ask yourself, "Might this be considered political?" If you aren't sure, don't post it.

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1 minute ago, Flying Elvis said:

RI ordering all NYers travelling here to self-quarantine for 14 days. Lots of "summer homes" here and it's about a 2-3 hour drive depending on which end of each state is the start/end point. National Guard to help at airport / train / bus station(s) and State Police will pull over all NY plates to inform them and get contact information. 

https://www.wpri.com/health/coronavirus/march-26-ri-coronavirus-update/

Man how do you even enforce that? This is how this thing just keeps spreading. Not sure when we will get it, if ever.

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21 minutes ago, CurlyNight said:

Germany's secret? Lots of testing. They have a lot of small labs in that country. They're testing mild symptomatic people and quarantining the + cases.

It is more than aggressive testing.  Median age of Coronavirus cases is 47 in Germany (70% between 20 and 50 years old), compared to 63 in Italy.  Germany has 25,000 ICU beds while Italy has 5,000 ICU beds.

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13 minutes ago, El Floppo said:

We don't own a car, which complicates things.

But we're looking at our options.

If you leave are you planning to quarantine for 14 days when you get where you’re going ?

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2 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

Man how do you even enforce that? This is how this thing just keeps spreading. Not sure when we will get it, if ever.

Not really a mention of enforcement, and it sure does seem nearly impossible. Better than nothing, I guess. At least it will drive the point home to the fleeing NYers in the (hopefully unlikely) event that they still don't get it. 

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9 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

Right? I don't get all the shelter in place orders...starting in 2 days. So everybody rush out and get as much done as you can now...together...in stores...lined up for hours...together...:loco:

Don't bother quoting Daily Mail in here, they are persona non grata 'round here

Interesting so South Korea tested the #### out of anything that moved and had a pretty favorable outcome all things considered. Now you're saying Germany is doing the same and having similar results? Crazy talk man, this stuff is so out of the box, we would have never thought of it :rolleyes:

South Korea, like Germany, has the same 3 things that really helped them: aggressive testing, younger cases and more ICU beds.

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Yesterday 100 people per hour died from COVID-19 around the world.

In about two weeks it could be 1000 people per hour... with the NYC area leading the way.  

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1 minute ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

Kudos to you guys giving warning after warning after warning after warning. 

And people continue to refuse to shelter at home in the political forum.

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6 minutes ago, bradyfan said:

South Korea, like Germany, has the same 3 things that really helped them: aggressive testing, younger cases and more ICU beds.

Or is the amount of younger cases on record because of all the aggressive testing? I get that Italty skews older but that has to be part of it.

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49 minutes ago, shuke said:

What % of your salary are you donating?

For reference, we actually donate about 10% of my take home pay to local non profit organizations. We have increased that recently because they are being hit hard. 

On top of that I also volunteer about 15-20 hours a month in my community. 

You?

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2 hours ago, Golden Gopher said:

There has to be some middle ground, where both can be accomplished to some extent.  In other words, stay at home, social distancing, etc. while still trying to "re-start" the economy to some extent.  It doesn't have to be one or the other.   And, restarting doesn't mean we go back to life as we knew it a month ago.  A lot of measures need to be put into place, and restarting has to be done very creatively, and in several steps.  Certain industries first.  Maybe certain age groups first.  Most importantly, look at who's going back to work and who's not, and does it make sense?  I've always felt that the most successful people in life are those who are able to adapt to change, sometimes with little time to do so.  This is the perfect example of that, and some are doing a great job.... restaurants transitioning to takeout/delivery only, distilleries becoming mass producers of hand sanitizer, companies transitioning to produce masks and ventilators on short notice, etc.  

All of that said, our top priority right now has to be to protect and save lives.  

No, unfortunately. Until things are under control there isn't really a middle ground and by under control you need the health care system stable, ubiquitous and easy testing, and people willing to do their part. I don't think we are close to any of that right now. There are "essential" businesses which need to keep going of course. If exposure translates to immunity then I could see a niche industry of recoved COVID19 people performing jobs that expose them quite a bit.

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7 minutes ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

If you leave are you planning to quarantine for 14 days when you get where you’re going ?

Hell no! We're going to party in our new freedom!!

 

 

 

 

Of course. And we've been quarantining ourselves already in anticipation prior to going anywhere, in case one of us becomes symptomatic...in which case we'd stay.

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55 minutes ago, shuke said:

What % of your salary are you donating?

Damn are we still defending literal billionaires by comparing them to people just trying to support their families and make a living? Unbelievable in 2020. 

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2 minutes ago, bradyfan said:

South Korea, like Germany, has the same 3 things that really helped them: aggressive testing, younger cases and more ICU beds.

I think a lot has to do with the populace of both nations as well. Both are fiercely nationalistic in their love for the Motherland and do whatever it takes to preserve. I'm not articulating my thoughts well but what I'm trying to say is their people listen. If there is a shelter in place order given in those countries I'd doubt you would see anyone other police & military on the roads. Here Karen is out getting Starbucks.

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5 minutes ago, Politician Spock said:

Yesterday 100 people per hour died from COVID-19 around the world.

In about two weeks it could be 1000 people per hour... with the NYC area leading the way.  

What good does a post like this serve?

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1 hour ago, ChiefD said:

Apparently the ice cream man driving around the neighborhood is an essential business.

I had to drive to pick up some belongings at my old house during lunch today - some neighborhood kids had made a lemonade stand and the Mom was standing there with like 5 kids waving at cars to try and get folks to stop and get lemonade.  I was like WTF ARE YOU DOING?!??

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1 hour ago, Politician Spock said:

Where? All I see is people who are in denial about what's happening being told that they are fools for denying it. 

Who’s denying anything? 

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9 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

I think a lot has to do with the populace of both nations as well. Both are fiercely nationalistic in their love for the Motherland and do whatever it takes to preserve. I'm not articulating my thoughts well but what I'm trying to say is their people listen. If there is a shelter in place order given in those countries I'd doubt you would see anyone other police & military on the roads. Here Karen is out getting Starbucks.

 

Yeah, I don't think its political of me to state that American Exceptionalism is gonna be a problem in curbing this thing's impact. Already is. 

People simultaneously hero-worshipping the law while taking idiotic pride in doing whatever they personally want is a problem even outside a pandemic situation.

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3 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

I had to drive to pick up some belongings at my old house during lunch today - some neighborhood kids had made a lemonade stand and the Mom was standing there with like 5 kids waving at cars to try and get folks to stop and get lemonade.  I was like WTF ARE YOU DOING?!??

Just Karen and her brood selling cups of virus :rolleyes: We refuse to take this seriously as a populace. Not sure what it's going to take.

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