If water really becomes a problem, we are at mad max level and Icon is going to need to start reloading ammo.
Abolutely true. I don't forsee a scenario where there are widespread or persistent water delivery issues. Even power will be kept on unless this has gone apocalyptic.
I've got a good bit of water as a JIC insurance, but I don't anticipate "Needing" it. We usually buy about 1000 0.5L bottles of water for the BBQfest booth. I just pre-bought a quarter of that and if it's not needed we will use at the booth.
Korea has a test kit that is 80% accurate and does not require medical supervision. And gives results in 15-30 minutes.
People are smart.
Korea is absolutely killing it. They have drive-thru testing stations around town now. You pull up to a tent, get tested, park, and get your results without getting out of your car. Brilliant. Meanwhile the CDC is still not even ALLOWING hospitals to test suspected cases unless the person has Wuhan tattooed on their forehead and on their deathbed.
Not to go full-on prepper, but portable solar panels can now be bought for under $100. It wouldn't take much electricity to charge cell phones and keep a deep freezer below 32 degrees Fahrenheit. A 10 watt usb fan would also be easy to charge and could be a lifesaver in a hot climate.
Goal Zero has high quality portable solar stuff at moderate prices. For solar panels, it's probably more cost effective to buy cheaper panels from Amazon. But if you want to buy a portable power station (battery), you'll probably want to invest in Goal Zero because cheaper brands are all lemons. Having a portable solar panel is also nice to have while camping or even at the beach for the day. And a 10 watt fan can be the difference between a good night's sleep or a sweat-drenched restless night while summer camping.
I've not gotten to the buying a solar panel point, but I did realize my emergency weather radio (we're in tornado alley) has a small solar panel + handcrank and internal battery that can be used to charge phones if needed. Pretty slick for $20.
This is what one of the DR's posted on Twitter
Bennett Penn @Penn_Laboratory
COVID-19 case just diagnosed in ICU our med center, suspected of being community acquired. I thought it'd be a while before this happened, but looks like it's time to buckle up...
Yeah, the fact that his guy sat in a hospital for over a week with COVID-19 and the CDC kept refusing to test him is insane. If he was badly symptomatic he could have been caught this in the wild anytime between Feb ~5th and Feb ~15th.
If this has been spreading in the wild since the first week of February, there are a LOT of contagious people walking around, and we are about to see a massive spike in cases as soon as the CDC decides to actually start doing their job
Read another story about a man who's wife cleans hotel rooms at a NY State Casino that has a lot of chinese guests. She's been sick for over a week and hospital finally admitted with High fever, Low O2 sats (poss. lung failure), etc. The hospital staff keep telling her "We CAN'T test you for Coronavirus". Husband is worried she might die.
What, you are not living in an off grid cabin in the woods with great sight lines?
9000 sqft Brick Cabin or GTFO.
IIRC what they can do at hspitals is symptom (and side issue/complication) treatment, right? Also IIRC symptom treatment is (mostly) lower the body temp and keep you hydrated, right?
Not advcating buying IV and saline, but I believe you can get isotonic powders ready to mix with boiled water for the hydration and for the lowering of bodytemp, it'smostly påaracetamol and similar (what normal people can get)? Thse two items may be interesting to add to a prep list if hospitals are overwhelmed with side/complication cases
IV and Saline are a bad idea for the average person for sure, but keeping fever down, mitigating coughing, and staying hydrated seem to be critical. Having supplies on hand to handle that is smart, as shortages will likely present themselves.
Before it's asked, yes my buddy with the house has a full Med kit with case or two of saline and all necessary IV gear + Training to administer.
A mutual friend's family owns a chain of pediatric clinics and set him up last year sometime.
So I just checked Delta's website. If I'm reading it correctly, IF Rome is put on their travel advisory list, it looks like we can reschedule without a change fee for up to 1 year. Would just have to pay the difference in the cost of the tickets, which is fine with me. Italian destinations currently on the list are Bologna, Milan, Turin and Venice.
https://www.delta.com/us/en/advisories/other-alerts/coronavirus-situation-in-italy
Awesome that Delta is doing this. My flights to Canada in 2+ weeks are on Delta. Good to know if it gets worse there, I should get credit (~$1k)
Wow. From the NYTimes:
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan asked all of the country’s schools to close for a month to help contain the spread of the coronavirus. Here are the latest developments.
Love how Japan / China are handling this. Unfortunately their average citizen is way smarter / more responsible than the average american. I see a lot of numbskulls ignoring any CDC guidance to shelter in place, etc.
Did a bit of reading on this. Apparently similar to Dengue Fever where some folks don't develop proper antibodies, then when exposed again, the weak antibodies actually "help" the virus attack healthy cells... perhaps cytokine storm scenario? I'm no expert.
@Terminalxylem prob can explain.
Water isn't one of the things I'm worried about.
South Korea is militant about this kind of stuff and the public does what they are told. Messaged with me friend on base just outside of Seoul last night, base is screening everyone coming and going at gates, restricting travel off post, shut down schools/church services/social gatherings last week and went virtual.
Smart move, can't see Olympics happening given the current backdrop. We may have weathered the worst of the storm by may/June but I don't think we'll be anywhere near declaring victory of this thing by then. You should be preparing for this in the States as well, virtual school should be one of the first things done if this starts to pop up in communities.
My Infrared BBQ Thermometer might come in handy!
I'd be shocked if the Olympics happen... but we shall see.
If kids don't die of this what is the point of closing schools? It just becomes a cross contamination point? If that is the case can you really re-open until a vax is ready?
Why can't we wall off the old people rather than the young?
Containment. Daycares and schools are the worst when it comes to outbreaks. My kids would have escaped 90 percent of their routine illnesses had they been home schooled.
Then you have grandparents getting sick when their sickly little grandchildren come to visit.
Bingo...
by JTC.
Though I agree on the kid thing, adults are just as bad in the workplace. This Monday, sitting at my desk at work, and a woman I know comes over to talk to the guy next to me. I hear her say "I went to the Minute Clinic Friday after work and tested positive for the flu. They gave me Tamiflu and I felt GREAT the next morning!". Not even putting one ounce of thought into those around her and that she's ####### contagious.
So yeah, kids spread by accident, but adults spread due to selfishness and stupidity.
This kills me. Earlier in this thread I posted about a coworker Suk-Lee who went home to Malaysia as this was kicking off. Flew back via China. Self quarantined less than the mandatory 14 days because "I have onsite meeting!".
Last wed I came in, saw her, we talked briefly then she basically coughed in my direction from a bit away. I got up and left for the day. Came in Monday this week.. she's at her desk, much sicker. Coughing with a rattle, sneezing, sniffling, etc. Sent her ### home.
I know she prob doesn't have COVID, but how ####### dumb can you be to come into the office with those symptoms after flying thru China right now.
Just learned that my sister is in self quarantine. Her closest co-worker was skiing in the region hit the hardest in Italy and he was just sent home from work by doctor's orders. He has the sniffles but no fever (and they won't test him until he does). So my sister's school is without principal and vice principal for the next two weeks or until he gets a fever and gets tested
Damn.. best wishes GB. I'm sure she's fine. Teachers have killer immune systems
/HIpple