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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (18 Viewers)

Cowboysfan8 said:
Doesn’t just about everyone in China wear a mask?

Im asking because I really don’t know 
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I believe they do but the virus was kept under wraps for so long that by the time their citizens were aware, a lot of the damage was already done. But they certainly cycled through the crisis quicker than we're on track to. And I gotta believe some of that was the use of masks.

 
Mr Anonymous said:
I believe they do but the virus was kept under wraps for so long that by the time their citizens were aware, a lot of the damage was already done. But they certainly cycled through the crisis quicker than we're on track to. And I gotta believe some of that was the use of masks.
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But did they even have a reason to leave the house? It's the Czech Republic. 

 
Slapdash said:
What kind of mask can you make at home that protects you?
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Protection starts with anything that prevents you from touching your mouth or nose with your hands. A basic mask also greatly cuts down on the chances of an airborne droplet landing in either of those covered places.

Here's a very basic 24 second video...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1245700192298467329

Here's an article from the Washington Post with a tutorial...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/03/28/masks-all-coronavirus/

And here's a guide from India how to make masks with a sewing machine or without...

http://164.100.117.97/WriteReadData/userfiles/FINAL MASK MANUAL.pdf

 
[icon] said:
Our home life is absolutely "normal" in that we aren't behaving any differently once home (washing hands more than normal, etc). Same when relaxing in the yard, grilling, etc. 
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Other than being aware of who is in my personal space, rush hour and no bars my entire life is normal. Still going to work, no rush hours.  Stop to get groceries on the way home wherever the wife asks.  Dont mind staying home to drink and eat. 

 
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Flipping channels and saw Jimmy Swaggert Biblethon is on. It says SBN live and shows everyone there acting as normal, crowd and no social distancing. The music clips may be old but having it say live is irresponsible as there are idiots out there that aren't social distancing. 

 
The best way to cheer up is to cheer up someone else. It's like doing a random act of kindness. Saw on CNN a lady step up and pay one laid off desperate worker's rent. I wish there were a lot more stories like this of rich folks touching an individual in need. I know if I were rich I would find those about to be homeless and help them.

 
Redwes25 said:
Looking at Italy it appears cases plateau. I had hoped with all measures in place there the case numbers would be decreasing but they are holding steady (though below the peak). 
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Been thinking about that Fauci line “data trumps models”

The problem is, we don’t really KNOW what data is good.  Most people don’t believe China’s numbers (I do, but I understand why many don’t)

Can we really look at Italy and “assume” cases will plateau at their rate?  How different are their quarantine measures? What if they’ve been hiding cases or deaths? What if their testing is inadequate?

Look at France, they decide to let the world know today about another 1,000 deaths that they want to report because they’ve changed the way they report things.

There are a lot of things we don’t know right now, because the data isn’t good.  When you feed average data into models, you can’t live by those models.
 

What we do know is that strict quarantines and isolation of patients work.  We know that social distancing helps.

We have no proof that social distancing will fix  the problem, but we are buying time and hoping for medical advances.

But I have to say, I’m pretty pessimistic about the chances of this thing going away anytime in the next year.  Even South Korea and Japan are starting to struggle with it and they have a compliant population.

I hope you guys enjoy your homes!

 
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Olaf said:
I just received the following text from someone who works in the federal government and has connections. No clue how reliable it will ultimately be, but she’s trustworthy:

The President will announce a national quarantine in 72 hours for two weeks. All businesses will close and the national guard will be dispatched.  Get groceries. 
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Highly doubt it. You can't even get the idiot states to issue stay at home korder. I can see more essential businesses becoming non essential though. Just saw an ad for a flooring store still open for business. I'm sure the floors can wait. 

 
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[icon] said:
We're lucky in that both our jobs seem pretty stable. We both enjoy our jobs and can work very effectively remotely, possibly more so. We're saving a good bit of cash through this. 

Overall it's been pretty easy, honestly. It's like a mini vacation, I miss sports, hitting bars with my buddies, cookouts, Hitting the casino, going out to eat. I have several group text threads with various circles of close friends that are very active and filling some of that social gap. 

That said it's really not a huge sacrifice to do our part to help stop this. 
 
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pretty much the same exact routine. 3+ weeks of not leaving our yard except for walks or bike rides.

I.e. bolded: with 2 kids and no youth sports to go to, all the incidentals around that; no driving anywhere; no takeout; no jump-around-place; I am actually saving a ton of money. 

I have not had my wallet in my pocket since before I can remember. It's just sitting here on my desk. I have a  $10 bill from when I last emptied my pocket sitting on the dresser so long that I think it might make a color change in the wood by the time I use it. In any other normal day that thing would have evaporated in a heartbeat for some fundraiser, gift, snack money, etc. 

 
I went grocery shopping for the first time in about 3 weeks today.  Spent about an hour (mainly because I have no ####### clue how to navigate Wegmans) to load up my cart.  It was fairly crowded and I would say maybe 20% of the people were wearing a mask.  Didn’t look like any of the cashiers had a mask.    

 
Olaf said:
I just received the following text from someone who works in the federal government and has connections. No clue how reliable it will ultimately be, but she’s trustworthy:

The President will announce a national quarantine in 72 hours for two weeks. All businesses will close and the national guard will be dispatched.  Get groceries. 
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You need new text friends.

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
How are you guys doing Instacart or Publix, Target, Walmart curbside? Phone app or regular website?
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I used the Target app for the first time a few days ago, and it worked great.  I put in the order the night before and got a message the next morning that it was ready whenever I wanted to pick it up.  I let them know I was on my way by hitting a button, hit another button when I got there, barcode popped up on phone, guy was out in two minutes, he scanned the barcode, and I grabbed the bags from the cart.

 
shader said:
Been thinking about that Fauci line “data trumps models”

The problem is, we don’t really KNOW what data is good.  Most people don’t believe China’s numbers (I do, but I understand why many don’t)

Can we really look at Italy and “assume” cases will plateau at their rate?  How different are their quarantine measures? What if they’ve been hiding cases or deaths? What if their testing is inadequate?

Look at France, they decide to let the world know today about another 1,000 deaths that they want to report because they’ve changed the way they report things.

There are a lot of things we don’t know right now, because the data isn’t good.  When you feed average data into models, you can’t live by those models.
 

What we do know is that strict quarantines and isolation of patients work.  We know that social distancing helps.

We have no proof that social distancing will fix  the problem, but we are buying time and hoping for medical advances.

But I have to say, I’m pretty pessimistic about the chances of this thing going away anytime in the next year.  Even South Korea and Japan are starting to struggle with it and they have a compliant population.

I hope you guys enjoy your homes!
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I tend to trust the current China numbers on new cases, etc. but they clearly lied about when it started and have hidden total death/cases. 

I do think Italy and Spain are trying to report properly but don’t think they are testing properly. Likely tons of cases that are never tested and added to the total so what is really cases totals like?

This is all happening here (especially NYC). I know of three people that clearly have it but they were never tested but symptoms are covid (cough, fever and in two cases loss of taste and smell). 

 
fred_1_15301 said:
I went grocery shopping for the first time in about 3 weeks today.  Spent about an hour (mainly because I have no ####### clue how to navigate Wegmans) to load up my cart.  It was fairly crowded and I would say maybe 20% of the people were wearing a mask.  Didn’t look like any of the cashiers had a mask.    
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Imagine if masks or bandanas become required how long it would take to get everyone to comply. We don't have every state doing the stay at home yet. You can force employees or go home, but not the general public.

 
CurlyNight said:
Imagine if masks or bandanas become required how long it would take to get everyone to comply. We don't have every state doing the stay at home yet. You can force employees or go home, but not the general public.
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It was my first time out (other than running/going for walks) in 3 weeks.  Completely surreal experience for me.  Yes it’s going to take time for people to adapt.  

 
shader said:
Been thinking about that Fauci line “data trumps models”

The problem is, we don’t really KNOW what data is good.  Most people don’t believe China’s numbers (I do, but I understand why many don’t)

Can we really look at Italy and “assume” cases will plateau at their rate?  How different are their quarantine measures? What if they’ve been hiding cases or deaths? What if their testing is inadequate?

Look at France, they decide to let the world know today about another 1,000 deaths that they want to report because they’ve changed the way they report things.

There are a lot of things we don’t know right now, because the data isn’t good.  When you feed average data into models, you can’t live by those models.
 

What we do know is that strict quarantines and isolation of patients work.  We know that social distancing helps.

We have no proof that social distancing will fix  the problem, but we are buying time and hoping for medical advances.

But I have to say, I’m pretty pessimistic about the chances of this thing going away anytime in the next year.  Even South Korea and Japan are starting to struggle with it and they have a compliant population.

I hope you guys enjoy your homes!
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Japan, Hong Kong, & ROK have seen their numbers go up this week, just when it looked like they were doing great.

Paraphrasing Cuomo’s remarks today:

“Every State will look like New York; it’s just that right now our curve is ahead of other states curves. We have cases in all 62 counties, and that includes rural areas with no cities. Every suburb will look like Westchester County & Nassau County. Every city will see their hospital systems stressed as they go up toward the apex of the curve. In many ways we are a microcosm of the country with respect to spread.”

Cuomo April 2nd Coronavirus Press Conference

 
jhib said:
I used the Target app for the first time a few days ago, and it worked great.  I put in the order the night before and got a message the next morning that it was ready whenever I wanted to pick it up.  I let them know I was on my way by hitting a button, hit another button when I got there, barcode popped up on phone, guy was out in two minutes, he scanned the barcode, and I grabbed the bags from the cart.
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:thumbup:  Put a Target order in this morning and picked it up 4 hours later. Worked great. Tried Prime but there weren’t any delivery windows open.

 
cap'n grunge said:
On a sort of related note, I'd like to know if being exposed to a small viral load and  getting an asymptomatic or mild version generates enough antibodies to then be as immune to further infection as someone who has more major symptoms.
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We don't know enough about the immunologic response to this virus to know for sure, but in general, developing more severe symptoms of an infection doesn't correlate with more robust immunity to reinfection, and vice versa.

 
[icon] said:
Would an electrostatic cotton filter sheet like this work if run as a layer in a homemade mask?

Maybe slid into a cloth pouch? 
 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F133370116235
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my awesome wife made us custom masks, with a pocket for a reusable filter of some sort.  mine is black with all different color chili peppers on it.  we are deliberating on what sort of filter to use.  that looks cool.  hepa vacuum bag is a possibility.   in a pinch, any very thin hepa filter would probably work.  

 
From my online teacher friend in China:

The school I work at seems to be under the impression that we are going back in two or three weeks. 

They've installed checkpoints at two gates to test temperatures. Isolation booths in the cafeteria (just wooden partitions separating the students). Hanging signs everywhere about washing hands.

Keep in mind this is a ritzy boarding school. The kids live here during the week (at least many of them do) packed 4 to a tiny room. 

I don't see any way in hell this happens. We just had a new case in our city yesterday. The "2nd wave" seems to be starting. No way the parents send their kids to an overcrowded under supervised environment.

They've been doing online for over a month now. They just got us foreigners to start this week. I'm only doing 3 classes a week, compared to my usual 18. No curriculum whatsoever. Just told me to make sure the kids are interested. 

 
3 hour lunch said:
Announced no summer sports in Minneapolis and beaches/pools closed the whole summer. 😧 I dunno, seems maybe a hair early for that? 
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OMG. I’m in Eden Prairie office often. Can’t imagine taking summer away for those folks who have been hunkered down for the winter. Rough 

 
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