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They're weeks behind multi center trials already being conducted across many states/elsewhere in the world. Not sure what this accomplishes.
If kindergarteners can figure out on-line schooling, incoming freshman should be okay.
Thanks. Edited my offending post accordingly as I was trying to acknowledge the reality without encouraging political debate. Nevertheless, have removed language that may walk too close to that line.
I personally know about 10 people who have/had it. One person who died and another on a ventilator. Also heard about many others who have it who I don’t personally know. I live in Brooklyn so like you it is very prevalent and both mine and my wife’s family all live in NY/NJ so have a ton of connections to the area.
Not remotely. It's only a "big part of the story" because people just can't help themselves. Everyone wants to get their cheap shots in on Trump. The slack is only in one direction - the left, so of course you appreciate it. Any push back or counter arguments or defense of Trump and out comes the "be cool in here".
My posting what Newsom's plans are for CA is not politics. People who don't want to read that thread want to know what states are doing to open up. Not politics at all. Newsom refuses to respond on political questions so you won't find any in his responses.
Completely agree. My mini rant wasn't directed at you. In fact, your post is a good example imo of posting something about an elected official, in either party, without being political. Cheers.
Coronaviruses have big genomes, among the largest of RNA viruses, and much bigger than HIV. There is no precedent for an effective coronavirus vaccine, and prior trials for a SARS vaccine ended up killing animals.
Tuesday bump. Happened last week and the week before. My theory is that there are some hospitals that do their weekend reporting on Monday and rhat doesn't make it into the ***official*** tally until Tuesday.
Also, deaths is a lagging indicator. IIRC, it was about a week, give or take, between the case peak and fatality peak for China and Italy. We should have expected deaths to peak today... hopefully this is the high water mark.
I never got political in my response. I was letting you know why politics (R or D) is a natural part of the conversation. You went straight political in your response and are accusing people of taking Trump shots.
If we ever get the results back of my wife's test, you might have one right here
It'll be two weeks this weekend.
According to Congressional testimony in March, a few million dollars
Fauci and others seem confident we will eventually have a vaccine. There’s no guarantee but I don’t think Covid 19 will end up being a endemic.
2 weeks smhIf we ever get the results back of my wife's test, you might have one right here
I live in South Jersey. So far I know 4 people. My brother’s brother-in-law and sister-in-law in NY and two friend’s of my wife’s family down here, one of which passed away.
You’re right. I mis-read an article thinking people got killed in the original SARS trials; it is somewhere in this thread. Only animals were harmed by the vaccine.According to Congressional testimony in March, a few million dollars
In the linked article one of the researchers working on a SARS vaccine told Congress they felt they were close in 2016, but the funding dried up. The article is pretty light on details, but he basically said SARS-CoV2 is costing us tens of billions of dollars, and a few million four years ago we could have finished getting a Coronavirus vaccine.
(NOTE - there are 7 Coronavirus, 4 of which are a common cold. The other 3 are SARS, MERS, and SARS-CoV2.)
I’ve never seen any claim one vaccine will be effective against all three, but there is about 90% commonality between SARS and the current virus.
FWIW, in my limited research (dozen articles) I could not find any evidence vaccine development for SARS or MERS ever reached human clinical trials. I saw ferret and mice trials, and in the case of SARS, some of the trials caused mice to become much worse.
ETA - found a few detailed study designs but even using the clinical trial number to search, could not find the actual study which was to have followed.
But there a few articles I couldn’t access because they were in medical journals behind paywalls.
<< FD: CFO/CPA, did not stay in a Holiday Inn, not a doctor, not a HCW, not a public health official, and I possess only a layman’s understanding of any of this stuff.
Thanks, wasn’t sure if I missed something. Appreciate all you’ve been contributing to the thread even though a good chunk of it is above my pay grade. Have definitely learned a lot from your posts.
Our state health department later today posted that their analysis showed deaths to occur on average ~11 days after symptoms were displayed, so taking that into account and a little lag for testing time, I'd say if falls right in line. And if so, we are going to have a few more days with bigger death numbers like we did today. Hopefully this is the peak (deaths) for us.
I’m in rural north Florida. I know 3 local adults who have it, and maybe 3 teens. I have 7 others in other parts of the country who have had it. 1 died and he was in nyc.
"The SCMP report has quoted an unnamed researcher as saying that the findings of this study will need further verification, as there remains the possibility of the mutation being caused by a technical error during the sequencing process. There is also a chance of the results produced by the computer simulation being misleading.
not doubting you but do you have a link you can share with that info? I've only seen it stated that they knew of 2 strains (since Wuhan).
Cleveland area here. Know 2 people who have died. 4 other confirmed. 1 of which is currently on a vent. All of them but 1 of the people who passed away are either folks I work with at one of our facilities that had an outbreak or family members. We have a few other folks who are out with symptoms but havent been tested because they aren't high risk or sick enough.
I personally know one. He's been on a vent for almost 2 weeks, and they are hopeful he comes off tomorrow, but it has been harrowing, watching his wife's daily posts on FB, to say the least. I know of 2 others here locally that are friends/family of friends, that were also on vents, but progressing. One in particular was on vent almost 2 weeks. Is now off the vent (just in the last couple of days), and is doing better but thus far all tests and still come back positive so he can't be discharged yet. I also indirectly know a couple others that tested positive but were very mild cases (no hospital).
thanks! good info there and in the link within: https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/
also:
Can you explain why they can't just hire everyone back and pay them to stay at home?
What a back-door way to insert his own politics. 
