Yeah I read it. If WHO didn't get the data then I can see them wanting to get their own data. This isn't something to get freaked out about as some wide conspiracy.Did you actually read the article?
The World Health Organization and several world governments changed their coronavirus policies and resumed trials of hydroxychloroquine because they got questionable data from the company, The Guardian reported Wednesday
The WHO announced Wednesday that those trials of the anti-malarial drug would now resume.
I agree completely.Jeez, a person posts something that sounds good, and gets jumped on for it. Just smile and nod, please. You know, like when someone shows you their ugly baby, and you say, aww, how cute.
Not sure how jumped one he was. People pointed out things about the report and other relevant data. All seemed to be about the report, not about the person and all seemed pretty civil.Jeez, a person posts something that sounds good, and gets jumped on for it. Just smile and nod, please. You know, like when someone shows you their ugly baby, and you say, aww, how cute.
One thing that comes to mind is that they are asserting that the asymptomatic cases they found didn't spread easily. That seems to be important if true.How would those numbers from China change anything about the USA? They stomped out the virus, the USA has not.
Maybe this thing is dying out like SARSSo with China finished testing the entire city of Wuhan, some 10 million people, and supposedly only finding a few hundred asymptomatic cases does that mean anything? They were supposedly looking for a second wave and didn't find one. Since they are about 4 months ahead of us, does any of their data add anything meaningful to understanding the trajectory of the pandemic or just BS?
Who's freaking out? I just found it "interesting"Yeah I read it. If WHO didn't get the data then I can see them wanting to get their own data. This isn't something to get freaked out about as some wide conspiracy.
I thought we had like 1,000 COVID deaths just yesterday?Maybe this thing is dying out like SARS
HCQ took on a life of it's own early on. It's mostly been set aside at this point, but something like this brings back out the HCQ cheerleaders whom tend to not really understand how trials and science work very well as a rule.Who's freaking out? I just found it "interesting"
According to that source, Vermont had 1 fatality in the past 21 days and has 0 people in the hospital currently with a confirmed case. 14 cases in the hospital are under investigation. 55 total fatalities. Maybe jaded, but those are good numbers.I know many are looking at the Rt Live website. Here is the text at the top of the site...
"These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."
My problem with the above, is it doesn't match what's really going on.
Vermont - Currently showing as the worst state. Also showing as the worst for last week, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago, and 6 weeks ago. It's literally the highest number every step of the way for 6 weeks. Based on these numbers, Vermont HAS to be the fastest spreading state, right? Of course I understand their actual numbers won't compare to states like NY, because their population isn't even in the same ballpark. But, on a per person basis, their cases should be going up faster than everyone else, right? In reality, let's see Vermont's numbers. I found this link... https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/coronavirus-covid-19/current-activity-vermont#dashboard
One look at those numbers, and I fail to see how Vermont is such a petri dish. They have fewer than 100 current cases.
Spain had 5.
Not sure I see how useful it is either. I looked yesterday to specifically see where NC was at since we didn't do our OBX trip this year and wanted to see what was going on. NC was where VT is today and they were something like 1.4 or maybe higher, a huge outlier. Today it's .9 something and the history doesn't show it ever being that high. It's a neat idea but I have no idea how these numbers are being generated or how useful it is.I know many are looking at the Rt Live website. Here is the text at the top of the site...
"These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."
My problem with the above, is it doesn't match what's really going on.
Vermont - Currently showing as the worst state. Also showing as the worst for last week, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago, and 6 weeks ago. It's literally the highest number every step of the way for 6 weeks. Based on these numbers, Vermont HAS to be the fastest spreading state, right? Of course I understand their actual numbers won't compare to states like NY, because their population isn't even in the same ballpark. But, on a per person basis, their cases should be going up faster than everyone else, right? In reality, let's see Vermont's numbers. I found this link... https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/coronavirus-covid-19/current-activity-vermont#dashboard
One look at those numbers, and I fail to see how Vermont is such a petri dish. They have fewer than 100 current cases.
It's hopping all over the place this week. It's been very confusing. I sent a note to them asking what was going on. I'll let you know what they say (if they respond). I am not wondering if they are doing a "rolling x days" sort of thing.I know many are looking at the Rt Live website. Here is the text at the top of the site...
"These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."
My problem with the above, is it doesn't match what's really going on.
Vermont - Currently showing as the worst state. Also showing as the worst for last week, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago, and 6 weeks ago. It's literally the highest number every step of the way for 6 weeks. Based on these numbers, Vermont HAS to be the fastest spreading state, right? Of course I understand their actual numbers won't compare to states like NY, because their population isn't even in the same ballpark. But, on a per person basis, their cases should be going up faster than everyone else, right? In reality, let's see Vermont's numbers. I found this link... https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/coronavirus-covid-19/current-activity-vermont#dashboard
One look at those numbers, and I fail to see how Vermont is such a petri dish. They have fewer than 100 current cases.
Looks like a huge testing backlog came in. Not sure what’s going on there.Michigan with 5,298 new cases today
How sad. :(Just talked with a coworker that's in Mesa, he said it looks like the majority of the cases are from Tribal Reservations
Yeah Alaska went from number 1 to number 50. I like what they're doing, but I'm not convinced it's accurate yet.It's hopping all over the place this week. It's been very confusing. I sent a note to them asking what was going on. I'll let you know what they say (if they respond). I am not wondering if they are doing a "rolling x days" sort of thing.
Hey - is today's news from the governor good news for you? Sure hope so!mr roboto said:As a Stage 3 business owner I really hope we aren’t delayed...
no one is going back at this point....the guidelines are all a distant memory.mr roboto said:As a Stage 3 business owner I really hope we aren’t delayed...
Yep! My wife is so excited. Just started marketing on digital again lead flow is crazy high right now!Hey - is today's news from the governor good news for you? Sure hope so!
The positive cases maybe higher than reported. While they swabbed everyone they batched them into groups of 5 and randomly tested 1 of the 5. If that 1/5 tested positive only than did they test the other 4.
That's not what happened at all. You're misrepresenting facts. Color me shocked. The original study was flawed, and Lancet has retracted it.Looks like the study that said hydroxychloroquine was not safe was shown to be incorrect. Color me shocked.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-cure-covid-19-say-drug-trial-chiefsHydroxychloroquine does not work against Covid-19 and should not be given to any more hospital patients around the world, say the leaders of the biggest and best-designed trial of the drug, which experts will hope finally settle the question.
“If you are admitted to hospital, don’t take hydroxychloroquine,” said Martin Landray, deputy chief investigator of the Recovery trial and professor of medicine and epidemiology at Oxford University. “It doesn’t work.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52937153The drug has now been pulled from the UK's Recovery trial, which is run by the University of Oxford.
The findings have been passed on to the World Health Organization.
Back at the start of the pandemic, laboratory studies had suggested the malaria drug could affect the virus. Small-scale studies in China and France then hinted it might help patients.
There was a huge amount of hope, as the medicine is cheap and has been safely used to treat malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis.
However, the evidence supporting its use for coronavirus has been weak.
That is why the data from the Recovery trial is crucial. It is the first to test the drug in large numbers of people in a thorough clinical trial.
More than 11,000 patients with Covid-19 are taking part, with 1,542 patients given hydroxychloroquine.
Due to mounting controversy about the drug, the UK's drugs regulator last night asked the Oxford researchers to review their data.
The results showed 25.7% of people taking hydroxychloroquine had died after 28 days. This compared with 23.5% who were given standard hospital treatment.
"This is not a treatment for Covid," said Prof Martin Landray, part of the Recovery trial. The trial immediately stopped using the drug.
http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/trending-now-at-banner?item=123055Biff84 said:Sounds like Arizona is looking really bad. They just had a press conference with the chief clinical officer for Banner Health and they’re approaching capacity.
That’s so sad you are going to have to stay inside forevershader said:It is not “dying out like SARS”. Today will be the worst numbers day in a month
Agreed. The numbers are all over the map. On Wednesday, I posted that AL, ME, and UT were the only 3 states who were in the red for all 6 weeks, because that's what the website showed. Just 2 days later, and somehow Idaho has been in the red all 6 weeks, whereas AL & ME have not been? As was said, a good idea, but their numbers suck.shader said:Yeah Alaska went from number 1 to number 50. I like what they're doing, but I'm not convinced it's accurate yet.
How did you slip through the filterThat’s so sad you are going to have to stay inside forever
I thought I told you to ignore meshader said:It is not “dying out like SARS”. Today will be the worst numbers day in a month
Useless <> deadly which is what the retracted study said. So technically "what do you have to lose" was correct if the results turned out useless.-fish- said:That's not what happened at all. You're misrepresenting facts. Color me shocked. The original study was flawed, and Lancet has retracted it.
However, following studies have confirmed that it is useless.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-cure-covid-19-say-drug-trial-chiefs
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52937153
Trying to claim that the retraction of previously flawed studies somehow means this drug is somehow an effective treatment is a blatant lie and dangerously reckless.
Unfortunately the job numbers are a bit of fake news, not that the OP would have known.Jeez, a person posts something that sounds good, and gets jumped on for it. Just smile and nod, please. You know, like when someone shows you their ugly baby, and you say, aww, how cute.
Yeah. Some of the states numbers for yesterday are shocking.shader said:It is not “dying out like SARS”. Today will be the worst numbers day in a month
NC is hitting record numbers. That will only go up once the protest numbers hit. Stage 3 isn’t happening any time soon. Mask usage falling off the mapYeah. Some of the states numbers for yesterday are shocking.
I was seeing videos of the protestors going around outside of different, packed breweries in South End last night. Most of my friends think there is nothing to worry about and HATE that so much is still closedNC is hitting record numbers. That will only go up once the protest numbers hit. Stage 3 isn’t happening any time soon. Mask usage falling off the map
Sorry to hear. Most of my friends are the same. Just dying to get out.I was seeing videos of the protestors going around outside of different, packed breweries in South End last night. Most of my friends think there is nothing to worry about and HATE that so much is still closed