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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (8 Viewers)
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culdeus
Footballguy
Yeah I read it. If WHO didn't get the data then I can see them wanting to get their own data. This isn't something to get freaked out about as some wide conspiracy.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I agree completely.
I have been one of the biggest Chicken Littles about this virus and thought the country was moving too quickly to re-open, but seeing that good hard-working Americans are getting to go back to work is great news. It is the first step in maybe us finding some form of normalcy.
Let's get some sports back on-line. Some summer activities going and let's see what the numbers do.
I do worry about protest spikes--if we don't see an uptick in 2-3 weeks after seeing some of those massive crowds, that would be pretty great.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Not sure how jumped one he was. People pointed out things about the report and other relevant data. All seemed to be about the report, not about the person and all seemed pretty civil.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
One thing that comes to mind is that they are asserting that the asymptomatic cases they found didn't spread easily. That seems to be important if true.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I know many are looking at the Rt Live website. Here is the text at the top of the site...
"These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."
My problem with the above, is it doesn't match what's really going on.
Vermont - Currently showing as the worst state. Also showing as the worst for last week, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago, and 6 weeks ago. It's literally the highest number every step of the way for 6 weeks. Based on these numbers, Vermont HAS to be the fastest spreading state, right? Of course I understand their actual numbers won't compare to states like NY, because their population isn't even in the same ballpark. But, on a per person basis, their cases should be going up faster than everyone else, right? In reality, let's see Vermont's numbers. I found this link... https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/coronavirus-covid-19/current-activity-vermont#dashboard
One look at those numbers, and I fail to see how Vermont is such a petri dish. They have fewer than 100 current cases.
"These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."
My problem with the above, is it doesn't match what's really going on.
Vermont - Currently showing as the worst state. Also showing as the worst for last week, 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago, and 6 weeks ago. It's literally the highest number every step of the way for 6 weeks. Based on these numbers, Vermont HAS to be the fastest spreading state, right? Of course I understand their actual numbers won't compare to states like NY, because their population isn't even in the same ballpark. But, on a per person basis, their cases should be going up faster than everyone else, right? In reality, let's see Vermont's numbers. I found this link... https://www.healthvermont.gov/response/coronavirus-covid-19/current-activity-vermont#dashboard
One look at those numbers, and I fail to see how Vermont is such a petri dish. They have fewer than 100 current cases.
culdeus
Footballguy
HCQ took on a life of it's own early on. It's mostly been set aside at this point, but something like this brings back out the HCQ cheerleaders whom tend to not really understand how trials and science work very well as a rule.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
According to that source, Vermont had 1 fatality in the past 21 days and has 0 people in the hospital currently with a confirmed case. 14 cases in the hospital are under investigation. 55 total fatalities. Maybe jaded, but those are good numbers.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Not sure I see how useful it is either. I looked yesterday to specifically see where NC was at since we didn't do our OBX trip this year and wanted to see what was going on. NC was where VT is today and they were something like 1.4 or maybe higher, a huge outlier. Today it's .9 something and the history doesn't show it ever being that high. It's a neat idea but I have no idea how these numbers are being generated or how useful it is.
The Commish
Footballguy
It's hopping all over the place this week. It's been very confusing. I sent a note to them asking what was going on. I'll let you know what they say (if they respond). I am not wondering if they are doing a "rolling x days" sort of thing.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
0 in NY seems unfathomable
shader
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Yeah Alaska went from number 1 to number 50. I like what they're doing, but I'm not convinced it's accurate yet.
The Commish
Footballguy
no one is going back at this point....the guidelines are all a distant memory.mr roboto said:
mr roboto
Footballguy
Yep! My wife is so excited. Just started marketing on digital again lead flow is crazy high right now!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
A new worldwide high for daily cases at Covid worldometers with over 130,000. Deaths exceeded 4,900 worldwide. CNN had an article this morning stating what we've been seeing - a growing total, with things settling down some in the earlier countries such as in Europe, but growing hot spots in Asia, Africa, and Central and South America. In those areas, some countries are doubling their number of cases every week or every two weeks. Eighteen countries with over 1,000 new cases today.
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Charlie Harper
Footballguy
The positive cases maybe higher than reported. While they swabbed everyone they batched them into groups of 5 and randomly tested 1 of the 5. If that 1/5 tested positive only than did they test the other 4.
Someone better at math can figure out how this impacts the numbers.
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Looks like the study that said hydroxychloroquine was not safe was shown to be incorrect. Color me shocked.
-fish-
Footballguy
That's not what happened at all. You're misrepresenting facts. Color me shocked. The original study was flawed, and Lancet has retracted it.
However, following studies have confirmed that it is useless.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/05/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-cure-covid-19-say-drug-trial-chiefs
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52937153
Trying to claim that the retraction of previously flawed studies somehow means this drug is somehow an effective treatment is a blatant lie and dangerously reckless.
skol asylum
Footballguy
http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/trending-now-at-banner?item=123055Biff84 said:
During Thursday's conference, Ducey and other health officials also addressed the rise in the number of COVID-19 cases in or state. The governor said it was not unexpected. "When you see an increase in testing, you will see an increase in cases," he said.
"As you test more, you are going to find more," added AZ Health Services Director Cara Christ.
Ok, but your hospitalizations are also spiking. Stop spinning the numbers.
Ducey: Let them eat ice cream.
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TheWinz
Footballguy
Agreed. The numbers are all over the map. On Wednesday, I posted that AL, ME, and UT were the only 3 states who were in the red for all 6 weeks, because that's what the website showed. Just 2 days later, and somehow Idaho has been in the red all 6 weeks, whereas AL & ME have not been? As was said, a good idea, but their numbers suck.shader said:
BassNBrew
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
WHO finally has started recommending the general public wear face coverings in crowded public places in countries with ongoing community transmission.
IMO, it’s absurd it has taken them this long to do that and has tremendously damaged their credibility in my eyes.
IMO, it’s absurd it has taken them this long to do that and has tremendously damaged their credibility in my eyes.
shader
Footballguy
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RUSF18
Footballguy
Like many of us on here who are from the NYC area, I unfortunately know a lot of people affected by all of this. But happy to say that the case closest to me miraculously turned out well.
Good friend of mine since we were in 7th grade, his mother came down with covid in mid April and went into the hospital pretty quickly. She was put on a ventilator three days later. She was on that ventilator for 19 days. Two separate times the doctors told the family to be prepared for her not to make it through the night. She ended up getting the plasma treatment and it helped her turn around. There were a couple setbacks still, but slowly she started to recover.
Yesterday after 50+ days in the hospital she was released to a rehab facility. Her husband, kids, and grandkids were all there to see her in person for the first time in more than two months.
Talking to my buddy throughout this, knowing how close she was to dying, and then seeing the pictures that came from yesterday was just incredible.
Good friend of mine since we were in 7th grade, his mother came down with covid in mid April and went into the hospital pretty quickly. She was put on a ventilator three days later. She was on that ventilator for 19 days. Two separate times the doctors told the family to be prepared for her not to make it through the night. She ended up getting the plasma treatment and it helped her turn around. There were a couple setbacks still, but slowly she started to recover.
Yesterday after 50+ days in the hospital she was released to a rehab facility. Her husband, kids, and grandkids were all there to see her in person for the first time in more than two months.
Talking to my buddy throughout this, knowing how close she was to dying, and then seeing the pictures that came from yesterday was just incredible.
Sand
Footballguy
Unfortunately the job numbers are a bit of fake news, not that the OP would have known.
A huge swath of people were mischaracterized and the unemployment rate is a full 3% higher than previously stated.
16.3% unemployed. That's a pretty shocking number.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
NC is hitting record numbers. That will only go up once the protest numbers hit. Stage 3 isn’t happening any time soon. Mask usage falling off the map
I was seeing videos of the protestors going around outside of different, packed breweries in South End last night. Most of my friends think there is nothing to worry about and HATE that so much is still closed
shader
Footballguy
TN was on a 20-day streak of 350 cases a day. The last week has seen a clear rise into the 450 range.
The downward trend in many areas has clearly halted.
As a whole the USA was definitely heading down. Not it appears it is slowly going up, just what you’d expect from a country that started giving up 2 weeks ago.
Id expect mid to late next week that we will start seeing protest impacts. Today makes me sick to my stomach over what is around the corner.
The downward trend in many areas has clearly halted.
As a whole the USA was definitely heading down. Not it appears it is slowly going up, just what you’d expect from a country that started giving up 2 weeks ago.
Id expect mid to late next week that we will start seeing protest impacts. Today makes me sick to my stomach over what is around the corner.
shader
Footballguy
Sorry to hear. Most of my friends are the same. Just dying to get out.I was seeing videos of the protestors going around outside of different, packed breweries in South End last night. Most of my friends think there is nothing to worry about and HATE that so much is still closed
