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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (26 Viewers)
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themeanmachine
Footballguy
Thought I read recently that even though it can take as long as 14 days, the average is 5 days.
shader
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Ran into one of our anesthesiologists in the supermarket when a lot of this started. I went to shake his hand and he recoiled backwards. I think he would have reacted less offended if I tried to grab his crank.
Pipes
Footballguy
It’s not that bad. Had one a few weeks ago and did just fine and I hate breathing through masks. It had been just over 3 months since my last one (I’m an every 6-8 weeker) and it felts amazing.
Doug B
Footballguy
Following up on what meanmachine and shader wrote ... I haven't seen where this particular information about COVID-19 has changed at all in the last 2 1/2 months.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Yeah I didn’t mean To imply that this was necessarily new info.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html
The incubation period for COVID-19 is thought to extend to 14 days, with a median time of 4-5 days from exposure to symptoms onset.1-3 One study reported that 97.5% of persons with COVID-19 who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of SARS-CoV-2 infection.3
NotSmart
Footballguy
Deja Vu?
I could swear I remember this same descriptive prose from months earlier in this thread.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
TheWinz
Footballguy
The calm before the storm in Connecticut? Phase 2 begins tomorrow, with such things as indoor dining, gyms and fitness studios, nail salons, bowling alleys, libraries, spas, tattoo parlors, and theaters. As of today:
- Current 10 day total of 166 deaths is lowest since 27 March thru 5 April, when we went from 21 to 189 deaths. Today's death count for the entire state of Connecticut - 3
- 203 hospitalizations - haven't been this low since 27 March. Only once in the past 43 days has there been a daily increase, and that was by a mere 5 on 25 May.
- 2.36% positive cases in last 7 days. 14 straight days under 4%, which hasn't happened since the virus began.
I was gonna provide numbers from the Rt Live website, but decided instead to bash their numbers in my next post. Hard to praise CT's numbers, then rag on the website providing them.
- Current 10 day total of 166 deaths is lowest since 27 March thru 5 April, when we went from 21 to 189 deaths. Today's death count for the entire state of Connecticut - 3
- 203 hospitalizations - haven't been this low since 27 March. Only once in the past 43 days has there been a daily increase, and that was by a mere 5 on 25 May.
- 2.36% positive cases in last 7 days. 14 straight days under 4%, which hasn't happened since the virus began.
I was gonna provide numbers from the Rt Live website, but decided instead to bash their numbers in my next post. Hard to praise CT's numbers, then rag on the website providing them.
TheWinz
Footballguy
Rt Live sucks balls!
Can someone explain to me how a state can go from best for 6 straight weeks, to being horrible for that same 6 week period? Yesterday, Hawaii was on the far left of the chart at every single interval, and now, they have been in the red 6 weeks in a row? At this point, I don't believe any data on the website, and the only reason I even go there is to get a warm fuzzy that my state is low.
Can someone explain to me how a state can go from best for 6 straight weeks, to being horrible for that same 6 week period? Yesterday, Hawaii was on the far left of the chart at every single interval, and now, they have been in the red 6 weeks in a row? At this point, I don't believe any data on the website, and the only reason I even go there is to get a warm fuzzy that my state is low.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
We went from 0-3 cases daily for several weeks, and suddenly we’ve had 7, 14 and 17 the last few days. We also had our first case in a nursing home resident.
When you start with so few cases, a blip like that will change Rt in a hurry, but notice the range of the bar (confidence interval) is really wide.
Also, if anyone plans on visiting HI, understand we’re taking the quarantine period much more seriously than places like Florida. We shipped a few people back for violating it, and fines are being given. And let’s be honest, the beaches on the Caribbean are a lot nicer, and who wants to endure such a long flight, amiright?
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Plus Hawaii is full of Americans... I’d rather vacation where the people at least can pretend that they are happy that I am there.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I can buy Hawaii going from being the best state on Rt Live to the worst state overnight, but that does not change the data from 6 weeks ago. For example, if I look on the website on 14 June, and it says Hawaii's Rt number was .70 on 1 May, shouldn't that number be the same on 15 June?
moleculo
Footballguy
I've noticed similar moves too. I presume its because Rt is backwards looking statistic, and the data is continually re-evaluated as more data is fed into the model, especially given 11 days between exposure and onset of symptoms.
WDIK2
Footballguy
Someone from our company (works in a different department and spends most of his time working out of the office) just tested positive. A guy that spent 2 weeks unmasked in a car with him tested negative. Not sure you can get more exposed than the guy that tested negative. Are some people just not ever going to get it?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
TheWinz
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Dr. Fauci now admits that the government openly lied about the benefit of mask use early in the pandemic.
I hope all the extra deaths and the demolition of the credibility of "public health experts" was worth it.
https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus
I hope all the extra deaths and the demolition of the credibility of "public health experts" was worth it.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
I saw one article that said researchers noticed blood types matter. Type O is less likely to get infected from exposure and type A is more likely to get hospitalized if they develop an infection. That was all the info the clickbait article gave.
WDIK2
Footballguy
Are you asking if the guy that tested negative previously had it? I wouldn't know and neither would he. Could be. I don't think he had an antibody test.
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Dezbelief
Footballguy
We all suspected that was the case and was mentioned by several posters in this thread. I respect Fauci for setting the record straight. I wish the lie wasn't needed to try and get supplies where they were needed most. The failure of the USA to try and get ahead of this virus before we had a pandemic on our soil is truly disgusting.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Some tests are looking for active infections and some are looking for antibodies from a previous infection. We aren't sure how long a person still has detectable antibodies for SARS-CoV-2. My guess would be a year or two.
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TheWinz
Footballguy
If it took an expert to tell you wearing a mask was better than not wearing a mask, you may want to stop filling out that MENSA induction form.
shader
Footballguy
Great news from England. There’s a new study that shows that a cheap steroid reduces the death rate of those on ventilators by up to a 3rd.
https://t.co/9mOpLMVVKI
https://t.co/9mOpLMVVKI
BassNBrew
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Didn't China hide the virus and start stockpiling PPE before we even knew this was a pandemic?
More about the hypocrisy of our officials
https://nypost.com/2020/06/15/coronavirus-contact-tracers-wont-ask-if-new-yorkers-attended-protests/
https://nypost.com/2020/06/15/coronavirus-contact-tracers-wont-ask-if-new-yorkers-attended-protests/
Doug B
Footballguy
mozzy84
Footballguy
weird right. Have a friend that works at a print shop, positive test there from a guy a couple weeks ago and no one else in the shop got it. And they are passing around job tickets, eating in the breakroom, no masks while working, ect ect, had all kinds of exposure to him.
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belljr
Footballguy
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Our shortage was due to disbanding the pandemic response team and refusing to stockpile ppe before there was a need and a when there was a plentiful supply. We were also continuing to export supplies while the pandemic was growing on our shores. DISGUSTING
the moops
Footballguy
I think we have seen how reluctant a large percentage of the US population is to wearing masks. I am unsure how different it would be if Fauci says "wear a mask" from the beginnning.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I think the big problem here is how do you expect people to know which recommendations to believe and follow? If it’s changing theories or recommendations based on new evidence then that’s one thing but to imply or even say they didn’t tell the truth because they were worried about running out of supplies is worrisome.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Also, to play Devils advocate here but the don’t need masks did have two elements to it that were at least still mostly true:
- you don’t need a N95 masks - just a face covering will help
- if you are SIP and social distancing that is still better than not doing those and wearing a mask
I still think Fauci has been excellent overall - I think the man saved lives.
- you don’t need a N95 masks - just a face covering will help
- if you are SIP and social distancing that is still better than not doing those and wearing a mask
I still think Fauci has been excellent overall - I think the man saved lives.
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the moops
Footballguy
You need to look outside your NYC bubble. There are huge swaths of this country that are not wearing masks at all. They view it as an infringement on their rights. If the gov't recommended it in March, color me skeptical that they would follow
The Commish
Footballguy
To this end, I hope I am in this boat. I've shared the debacle of my wife's experience. Her test was inconclusive, then got a letter saying they didn't have confidence in the test, so she went for antibody test and it came back positive. Then we got a letter saying they weren't confident in that test result either. So we've just stopped trying to figure it out for now. All that is to say, I never got a single symptom and we didn't go out of our way to avoid each other. We just kept her away from the kids. I'd love to find out I had the antibodies at some point and didn't have any issues along the way. I don't see the point in getting tested at this point. I've never had a symptom and I stay in my house most of the time anyway.
The Commish
Footballguy
Our government has mechanisms in place that they can use to force our companies to address our country first. We have a shortage because all the states were competing with other countries and the federal government for resources. That shouldn't happen. We have plenty of capacity to create that PPE for our country. I'll leave it there...trying to stay away from it becoming political.
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The Commish
Footballguy
I don't think there is any question that there is always going to be that "Gubment ain't gonna tell me what I can/can't wear" group in this country...regardless of who the leadership is. They are a given. There's another significant portion of the people who will follow "their side" in blind loyalty. If we had a consistent, nonpartisan message across the GOP and Dem leadership at the national level, I am confident more people would have listened leaving those who I mention here as the only ones not doing the needful. One of the more fascinating things of this whole fiasco for me was watching the politicization of wearing masks. I mean really?!?!?! Can't make this stuff up.
TheWinz
Footballguy
No one knew the name Fauci before this virus, and I doubt we would know his name if he had been steadfast from the beginning, because he most certainly would've been gagged.
