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1 hour ago, Doug B said:

First impressions are that the ones refusing masks for political reasons are pretty roundly outnumbered by those doing it for other reasons (e.g. ignorance, feelings of invincibility, obliviousness to the world). How much can you really tell about a person by just eyeing them up, though?

Mask compliance among under-thirties, around here, is pretty poor. Mask compliance also seems decidedly higher among those in more "prestigious" socio-economic brackets.

All good points, it is admittedly more complex than my original statement.

I'm sure there's a significant % of people not wearing them because they are following the lead of the President, who refuses to wear one - so those can all loosely be classified as political.

Kids who feel invincible (I did too at that age) can be lumped under ignorance.

Some people are just selfish... they place their comfort over the potential well-being of others.

Some believe masks aren't beneficial to the wearer or their neighbors - I'd lump this under ignorance as well.

I saw this on Reddit recently - it addresses the people in the "masks aren't beneficial" category:

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3 hours ago, Doug B said:

Will look for it, but meanwhile do you have a link for this?

Kind of makes intuitive sense ... for the HBP most everyone over 40 walks around with , it's hardly a foot-in-the-grace condition.

This was actually kinda hard to find again. 

If you scroll down you can see the section on hypertension. That's where that is from. 

 

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People are so stupid. Wife and I took a scenic drive down highway 1 south of San Francisco. Stayed in our car the whole time because we aren’t dumb. When we got to the beach areas, it looked like it does over a 4th of July weekend. Packed with idiots. Maybe only a third had masks. Nobody 6 feet apart. All of the parking lots are closed so people were parking along the road near very clearly visible No Parking signs. It did bring a smile to my face to see the army of cops giving all of these morons parking tickets. 
 

There is so going to be a resurgence of this thing. My fear is that pressure to keep things open will win out this time and instead of a second round of SIP, the spikes in deaths will just be an acceptable reality. 

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Update from Denmark

A study of the first 9500 Covid-19 cases found (in DK)  shows:

- 82% of those that died have co-morbidities and were on average 82 years old

- Men were twice as likely to die compared to women

- The main co-morbidities among the dead were chronic heart diseases. lung diseases, kidney diseases and diabetes

- 75% of the dead were 75+ and had one of these four co-morbidities

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There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

Yea bro

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

Depends.......

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27 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

Even after the PowerPoint presentation, wife very much not onboard.

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Another 90,000 cases today on Covid worldometers.  Brazil does pass the US for most deaths for the day, and the US barely holds its cumulative death count under 100K.   

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1 hour ago, Mr. Ham said:

There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

Uh yeah use the toilet man

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spent the weekend at a lake.   Had a blast.   Couldn't even tell covid was a thing

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39 minutes ago, need2know said:

spent the weekend at a lake.   Had a blast.   Couldn't even tell covid was a thing

Yeah had my brother and nephews over for a barbecue. Zero social distancing. It was nice. 

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1 hour ago, need2know said:

spent the weekend at a lake.   Had a blast.   Couldn't even tell covid was a thing

Cool story.  

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5 minutes ago, shader said:

Cool story.  

got the rona. gave it to 5 people. no one died yet and now I have antibodies and don’t have to care.*
 

*Not an actual quote

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2 hours ago, tri-man 47 said:

Another 90,000 cases today on Covid worldometers.  Brazil does pass the US for most deaths for the day, and the US barely holds its cumulative death count under 100K.   

So the third largest country in the world with the most accurate death count has more deaths than Brazil.

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2 hours ago, tri-man 47 said:

 the US barely holds its cumulative death count under 100K.   

So you're staying there's a chance...

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3 hours ago, Mr. Ham said:

 It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. 

 

Unless I am way misremembering...4 year olds are way past pull ups,  no?

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Planning a beach trip, this thing seems in a range of control/chaos that seems predictable now. The whole bathroom thing is tough, hearing those that went to florida would spend hours and hours trying to find one which they could use.  I have a camping potty and probably will just let the ladies use it for the good bathroom and pull off the road.  In a...pinch i guess drop a deuce in a ditch.

Feel like the uncertainty in this is coming to a close.  Probably end up in the 350k-450k US deaths which isn't so bad considering what it looked like from the get go.  Oxford get some hustle up on that vax maybe we keep it under a quarter mil.

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55 minutes ago, the moops said:

Unless I am way misremembering...4 year olds are way past pull ups,  no?

I have 4 year old twins. Haven't bought a diaper of any kind for at least a year. 

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42 minutes ago, culdeus said:

Probably end up in the 350k-450k US deaths which isn't so bad considering what it looked like from the get go.

Wow.

350K deaths might have qualified as "isn't so bad" if we hadn't partially shut down the economy and imposed social distancing. (Since most of those early models did not account for those actions.)

But 350K with shutdowns and social distancing? My God, that would be an epic disaster.

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Per RT.Live there are now five states with R0 higher than 1. Four weeks ago four of them, TX, TN, ND and UT, were below 1.0

Whatever they are doing, it ain't working

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Anderson Cooper interview of William Haseltine, a former professor at Harvard Medical School.  Dr. Haseltine tells it like it is and is fast becoming my favorite person to see interviewed.

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8 hours ago, Don't Noonan said:

not a cool reply by you

Doesn’t fit his narrative. Good to see things getting towards our new normal this weekend. 

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8 hours ago, Don't Noonan said:

not a cool reply by you

He should change his name to hater

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2 hours ago, msommer said:

Per RT.Live there are now five states with R0 higher than 1. Four weeks ago four of them, TX, TN, ND and UT, were below 1.0

Whatever they are doing, it ain't working

That site made a major criteria change on May 20, mostly their adjustment to testing numbers.  It is probably more accurate now, but it makes comparisons to a few weeks ago difficult.  Louisiana went from one of the best Rt numbers to middle of the pack over night, from  .76 to .92.  I would be cautious in drawing too many conclusions. It should be better going forward than looking back.

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Help!!

I now get a message every time someone posts in this thread, but only this thread.  What did I do?  Sure, I receive notifications if someone replies to one of my posts, but I get a notification anytime anyone posts.

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9 hours ago, the moops said:

Unless I am way misremembering...4 year olds are way past pull ups,  no?

She still wears one at night. 

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34 minutes ago, worrierking said:

That site made a major criteria change on May 20, mostly their adjustment to testing numbers.  It is probably more accurate now, but it makes comparisons to a few weeks ago difficult.  Louisiana went from one of the best Rt numbers to middle of the pack over night, from  .76 to .92.  I would be cautious in drawing too many conclusions. It should be better going forward than looking back.

I know there was one made the end of April to account for increase/decrease in testing.  There's been another?

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11 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

Help!!

I now get a message every time someone posts in this thread, but only this thread.  What did I do?  Sure, I receive notifications if someone replies to one of my posts, but I get a notification anytime anyone posts.

:lmao: wow that sounds like hell 

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13 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

Help!!

I now get a message every time someone posts in this thread, but only this thread.  What did I do?  Sure, I receive notifications if someone replies to one of my posts, but I get a notification anytime anyone posts.

On the upper right of the screen is a "Follow" button.  You probably pressed it.

ETA - you did press it because you're one of the people listed as following the thread.

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13 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

Help!!

I now get a message every time someone posts in this thread, but only this thread.  What did I do?  Sure, I receive notifications if someone replies to one of my posts, but I get a notification anytime anyone posts.

See if this thread is in your "Manage Followed Content" list in your profile.

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4 minutes ago, The Commish said:

I know there was one made the end of April to account for increase/decrease in testing.  There's been another?

From the site:

5/20 model update: some states’ Rt have changed because we improved our testing volume adjustments.

 

This changed some states drastically.  

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12 hours ago, Mr. Ham said:

Even after the PowerPoint presentation, wife very much not onboard.

Can you share the PowerPoint presentation?  I maybe able to recycle it for a meeting at work.

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14 hours ago, msommer said:

Update from Denmark

A study of the first 9500 Covid-19 cases found (in DK)  shows:

- 82% of those that died have co-morbidities and were on average 82 years old

- Men were twice as likely to die compared to women

- The main co-morbidities among the dead were chronic heart diseases. lung diseases, kidney diseases and diabetes

- 75% of the dead were 75+ and had one of these four co-morbidities

Just a thought - how many 80 year olds DON'T have major health problems?  My guess is not a lot.

I think all the talk about comorbidities is a ploy to get me to quit smoking and start exercising  

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16 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

Help!!

I now get a message every time someone posts in this thread, but only this thread.  What did I do?  Sure, I receive notifications if someone replies to one of my posts, but I get a notification anytime anyone posts.

I accidentally hit follow on my phone all the time. 

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11 hours ago, culdeus said:

Planning a beach trip, this thing seems in a range of control/chaos that seems predictable now. The whole bathroom thing is tough, hearing those that went to florida would spend hours and hours trying to find one which they could use.  I have a camping potty and probably will just let the ladies use it for the good bathroom and pull off the road.  In a...pinch i guess drop a deuce in a ditch.

Feel like the uncertainty in this is coming to a close.  Probably end up in the 350k-450k US deaths which isn't so bad considering what it looked like from the get go.  Oxford get some hustle up on that vax maybe we keep it under a quarter mil.

For all of those planning trips and are worried about the restroom facility availability, might I suggest you check out the "Ran a 10k" thread. It is chuck full of outdoor emergency download specialists that can offer pro tips that will get you through this difficult time.

11 hours ago, the moops said:

Unless I am way misremembering...4 year olds are way past pull ups,  no?

Think they make them up to 6 year olds.

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2 minutes ago, TheWinz said:

I think all the talk about comorbidities is a ploy to get me to quit smoking and start exercising  

Stay strong, don't let the man bring you down!

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6 minutes ago, RC94 said:

On the upper right of the screen is a "Follow" button.  You probably pressed it.

ETA - you did press it because you're one of the people listed as following the thread.

Thank you very much.  Fixed

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1 hour ago, chet said:

Anderson Cooper interview of William Haseltine, a former professor at Harvard Medical School.  Dr. Haseltine tells it like it is and is fast becoming my favorite person to see interviewed.

:sadbanana:

Unfortunately, he's probably correct.

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Wow, I haven't received a notification in like 5 minutes.  It felt nice to feel special for a few days.  I may just start following every thread.

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13 hours ago, Mr. Ham said:

There’s a local drive in, which would be fun, but squeaky wheel is need to use bathroom. We have two kids, 9 and 4. It’s an easy solve for the 4 year old... use a pull-up. But why not just deploy that strategy for all of us? I’m seriously thinking of getting adult diapers for the rest of us and letting it rip in the car if we must.

That weird?

yes that is weird.

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9 hours ago, Don't Noonan said:

not a cool reply by you

Why not? Why would you possibly come into a coronavirus thread bragging about your wonderful weekend where you forgot the virus existed, if it wasn’t to troll.  It’s an insult to those sick/dying/quarantined/dead.

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3 hours ago, msommer said:

Per RT.Live there are now five states with R0 higher than 1. Four weeks ago four of them, TX, TN, ND and UT, were below 1.0

Whatever they are doing, it ain't working

Interesting to see TN as the number 2 state.  I may need to dig into this today.  We’ve definitely seen a small uptick the last 3-4 days.

I wonder how GA is so low down the list.  They’d been going through a rather significant bump until this weekend, when cases dropped off a bit.

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9 hours ago, culdeus said:

Planning a beach trip, this thing seems in a range of control/chaos that seems predictable now. The whole bathroom thing is tough, hearing those that went to florida would spend hours and hours trying to find one which they could use.  I have a camping potty and probably will just let the ladies use it for the good bathroom and pull off the road.  In a...pinch i guess drop a deuce in a ditch.

Feel like the uncertainty in this is coming to a close.  Probably end up in the 350k-450k US deaths which isn't so bad considering what it looked like from the get go.  Oxford get some hustle up on that vax maybe we keep it under a quarter mil.

Heard some talk on the radio this morning about a local (Boston area) beach. The restrooms are closed but outside the restrooms they have portable toilets.

 

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1 minute ago, shader said:

Interesting to see TN as the number 2 state.  I may need to dig into this today.  We’ve definitely seen a small uptick the last 3-4 days.

I wonder how GA is so low down the list.  They’d been going through a rather significant bump until this weekend, when cases dropped off a bit.

I dont understand their formula and I dont want to download that notebook. Your graph shows a fairly stable line for cases. WI is upward, yet ours is lower than yours? Must be significant adjustments made for declining rate of positive cases/tests. 

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1 minute ago, parasaurolophus said:

I dont understand their formula and I dont want to download that notebook. Your graph shows a fairly stable line for cases. WI is upward, yet ours is lower than yours? Must be significant adjustments made for declining rate of positive cases/tests. 

Yeah I don’t get it. 

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12 minutes ago, shader said:

Why not? Why would you possibly come into a coronavirus thread bragging about your wonderful weekend where you forgot the virus existed, if it wasn’t to troll.  It’s an insult to those sick/dying/quarantined/dead.

No it's not but then you have a tendency to go from zero to redline when you disagree with someone.

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1 minute ago, beer 30 said:

No it's not but then you have a tendency to go from zero to redline when you disagree with someone.

And you have a tendency to judge a conversation you weren’t a part of.  
 

He was trolling and you know it.  I won’t apologize for calling his awful behavior out.

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