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Hope that he gets a bad landing spot like AJB last year! This guy jumped out to me late last season when I saw him make a few tough contested catches over the middle and go up over guys at times. Reminded me of Boldin. I did not know he had those wheels he showed at the combine.
Wait, hold on. He didn't check...with us...
Big, fast, strong but maybe not the best route runner. Seems to check out. Also none of these bust WRs came under Matt Rhule and his system. He's an NFL coach now so perhaps him working with Mims is a a positive here.
Interesting. Brett Kollmann (youtube scout, does very well produced videos breaking down players) thinks Mims is a really slick route runner and has lots of little tricks he uses to set-up and beat defenders. Also said he plays like Nuk Hopkins where he views every play as a boxing match. He is always taking the right to the CB.
I know Brett because he's a Texans fan and when he usually gets excited for a prospect, they fail lol
The only knock on Mims is the age, but he meets what you want for breakout age and a huge share of the passing game at Baylor. Sure some film watchers think he is raw but then again guys like Waldman love him and Kollmann thinks Mims is actually quite polished. I think he can be what we saw from D.J. Chark this year.
I'd take Chark's production from this year in a heartbeat. I also know Waldman loves Mims (I got the RSP this year. Ask away if you want.). He's got him second overall at wide receiver pre-draft, fourth after the draft.
And as much as I think Gase is a bad coach, I mostly like the situation. There's a huge need as you said and I believe the GM has a long term deal so there is some stability with management. Finally, Sam Darnold seems like the perfect QB. You have seen him more so correct me if I am wrong, but he strikes me as the type of QB who will take chances, put the ball up for his WRs to make a play. He strikes me as more a Stafford style gunslinger than a see it throw it QB like a Jimmy G.
Waldman had Mims as his #2 ranked WR pre-draft.
Yeah, that sounds mostly right. There certainly seems to be stability in the front office finally. And competence, though we won't know that until rubber meets road.
When your top threats are Jamison crowder and Quincy enunwa this is bound to happen. Addressed the oline first, then added a pass catcher, that’s important. He could potentially lead the team in targets simply by attrition if perriman and crowder get banged up like the last couple years. I see a floor similar to mike Williams, but that offense still has work to do imo so the upside is capped. If they can be consistent and get him red zone looks he could easily be the go to receiver inside the 30 and maybe get 8-10 tds in an efficient version of the jets offense. The downside is that there isn’t a lot of weapons to account for in that offense so defenses will key on him if he’s producing, the jets haven’t been efficient in a while, and the verdict is still being decided on darnold. All in all, the opportunity is there, and that’s the first step to fantasy relevance.
Right as rain.
Be interesting to see Sam this year and how he does, but your points are all taken and have been accounted for in our heads, really, if you read the Jets thread. We're waiting to see what he can do with some weapons and an O-Line. Would have liked to see another receiver on their board rather than drafting a backup QB project from FIU, that's for sure. But we wait and see, we wait and see.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing as I was posting that, but considering the backup situation the last couple years I think it was a good move, good player.Right as rain.
I agree with your main point, but diverge a little. It's true that the backup situation was not worthy of professional sports, really. Not at that level. But I think signing a veteran backup to a reasonable contract made more sense both in the short and long term. This was supposedly (and I'm not a scout, so really don't know) a receiver class for the ages. Take advantage of that.
I'm starting to understand why he's still such a popular pick despite going to a retched franchise and being the 13th WR off the board.
Agreed. I don't know why he didn't stick in Baltimore, but I was impressed how quickly he acclimated in that late 2018 cameo in Cleveland. Maybe him getting whacked was the light bulb moment he needed to realize if he doesn't do something now he's gonna be flushed out of the league. He took that success, carried it over last season, and now has a clear path to a 1a role.
Aside from his Thursday night ineptitude in the rain against Carolina last year, Perriman flashed nicely for the Bucs. As a Jets fan, I hope it continues. And what's with this wretched franchise talk, Hue?
He was a major fantasy stud for me in the playoffs. I was crazy enough to start him week 15 against the Lions where he went off for 113/3. He made me forget Mike Evans even got hurt. I think him and Mims are actually a pretty scary outside duo. They are major size/speed combo freaks.
I think injuries killed him. He just couldn't get healthy which obviously impacted his play and development. It likely rattled his confidence and put him in a bad spot with the coaches in Baltimore.
Yep, you were on a couple last year late. Perriman had huge games. But Arians and Leftwich's offense was really running full steam then. Let's see how he does with Gase.
13th WR off the board doesn't mean much considering the WR depth this class.
I told ilov80s that. We share passwords. No, Mims was 4th among WRs. I can give you that. Other than that, you'll have to buy the manual. Shell out the $21.95. It's worth it.
I'm skeptical he won in college primarily due to his physical superiority vs the competition and that it won't translate to the pros. I was more receptive to him last month than I would have guessed before last season - really developed as a play maker down field, has a plan but adjusts based on ball location/leverage on opponent - everything about his H/W/S game is smooth, relaxed, and natural. And you don't like him? Well, I wouldn't say I dislike him. I'd say I dislike his risks. I think a dysfunctional organization like the Jets is the sort of environment to make them more likely to come to fruition. And stronger ones passing on him left me thinking those risks were greater than the alternatives.
I wondered about that. I still think the Steelers are either holding out hope or have discussed Claypool moving to TE. That doesn't make any sense, though, to do that without announcing it, so who knows? But I quibble with your analysis. Claypool wasn't and wouldn't be really a role player, he's a downfield play maker. And Washington and Johnson are lining up outside, pushing Juju to the inside. Rotoworld of all places had the blurb of the OC that they were sticking to Claypool playing outside. At least that's what they say now. It makes lilttle sense to have 6'4" coming out the slot, even though I know there are big slots.
I don't know what it means either - I'm dot connecting. And to be clear, the hypothetical I described is if Juju leaves next year - then Claypool slides inside. I saw this as a pre-emptive add to Juju walking. And to pick a caliber talent like him (I'm not a fan) over Mims?
