Haha. "i'm going to type something baseless and when called to back it up, explain that I'd rather not."I’d rather not get into a debate over politics. Plus, it surely wouldn’t solve anything between us (or anyone else). Involved discussions concerning politics isn’t my bag.
Please forgive me, but I’d rather just leave my post at face value. People can agree or disagree.
Oh, and also, Jerry Rice was not a HOFer, he just benefited from having the best QB ever throwing to him.There’s nothing wrong with stating an opinion & leaving it at that. Plus, the issues I’m referring to are the least of the Democratic party’s problems in regards to beating Trump.
Anyway, just like in the Shark Pool, it’s acceptable to state your opinion on a player & let it stand. I said everything in my post I wanted to say (for now).
There is a significant amount of evidence walking around in Washington DC that would suggest otherwise.Football Jones said:Biden is probably the worst candidate I can remember, everything considered.
He's got no chance to be the POTUS. The American people are smarter than that.
I don't know if you realize this or not, but this is almost verbatim (if you replace Dem with Repub and use Repub politicians of course) what the Dems were saying about the GOP during the "tea party" years...almost word for word.Biden & Sanders are well below par as candidates go, but it doesn’t really matter. The Democratic party is dying fast. I’d venture to say you won’t see another democrat in the WH for quite some time.
The American people have had enough of their BS, not to mention their stance on a few key issues. This novel dynamic has been brewing for awhile, but went viral with the impeachment. The nail was already in the coffin, but the latest nonsense is hastening their demise.
I, for one, am glad they’ll have to restructure at the very least. It’s simply a party of what’s wrong with politics.
Yeah, it's baseless when you don't agree with the general sentiment.Haha. "i'm going to type something baseless and when called to back it up, explain that I'd rather not."
I'd explain to you what I mean by it, but I'd rather not get into a debate over politics.Yeah, it's baseless when you don't agree with the general sentiment.
LMFAO.
A gave a very accurate description of the Democratic party as it stands now. That should be enough.I’m really not interested in discussing politics, so I think I’ll go post in a thread about the Democratic nominee on a politics forum.
The Democrats definitely need to find better candidates. Biden can't be the best they have to offer.A gave a very accurate description of the Democratic party as it stands now. That should be enough.
Two of the weakest potential nominees in history & a party who makes policy simply to get votes. Supports abortion, but supposedly are the champions of the weak & vulnerable. Idiots in power like the New Jersey governor who used CV as a way to stop gun purchases. Just who TF does he think he is? Congenital males being allowed to compete against congenital females in Connecticut, keeping the girls from getting scholarships.
There's so much nonsense I don't know where to begin. For one, find better candidates. Unbelievable. Secondly, & most importantly, re-think your whole idealization.
I'm going to take tim's tack right now and say that this is a very, very bad thing for Republicans and the majority of Americans, writ large. It used to be that media distrust could be viewed as a positive because of the obvious media bias, sensationalism, and crafting of narrative, but now I'm convinced that people are believing in things that aren't truth, that mere lay opinions rather than facts are ruling the day, and that the state of this condition isn't a good one. I understand that "burning it down" and "draining the swamp" were attractive ideas, and were to some friends of mine, but when the pandemic hits the fan, a competent and strong executive is what is needed, not an executive bowing to federalist theory and junk science.Why Trump succeeded in capturing the Republican Party in 2016, and why Bernie failed in 2020, in one stupid chart: https://twitter.com/karpmj/status/1245746641535205376
And the Wisconsin supreme court blocks it.KiddLattimer said:"BREAKING: Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers issued a last-minute order halting in-person voting on Tuesday amid coronavirus concerns, calling for suspending statewide and local elections until June 9."
https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1247219989419044864?s=19
People died for our right to vote, and now they're dying (at the order of our courts) should they choose to vote.And the Wisconsin supreme court blocks it.
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247288752747274241?s=19
They're willing to send people to their graves to try to get this primary over as fast as possible. Sickening.
Voting for a candidate that could be replaced at any moment by someone not even on the ballot if the DNC so decides.People died for our right to vote, and now they're dying (at the order of our courts) should they choose to vote.
You realize the election that matters tomorrow is the State Supreme Court right?And the Wisconsin supreme court blocks it.
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247288752747274241?s=19
They're willing to send people to their graves to try to get this primary over as fast as possible. Sickening.
Yea I didn't realize that when I posted, but saw that later... I was basing it on Mr. 'I listen to the scientists' sending his voters to die when I posted itYou realize the election that matters tomorrow is the State Supreme Court right?
The election is happening tomorrow because Republicans want to disenfranchise as many as possible to ensure a lasting conservative majority.
It has nothing to do with the primary.
Odds any candidate will contest this? Has to be pretty high...Estimating around 3% turnout for the WI elections yesterday... craziness
I would hope they do, but probably won't get anywhere wigh WI supreme Court or US supreme court thoughOdds any candidate will contest this? Has to be pretty high...
Right...but yeah it should be a big big big story to go along with pushing for mail in voting and protecting the November Election.I would hope they do, but probably won't get anywhere wigh WI supreme Court or US supreme court though
That picture of the Republican guy looking like Dexter in his killroom telling everyone it was perfectly safe to vote was amazing.Estimating around 3% turnout for the WI elections yesterday... craziness
Really shameful, seems it should be criminally negligent to force people to go out in a pandemic to vote.Right...but yeah it should be a big big big story to go along with pushing for mail in voting and protecting the November Election.
Alive and well for the time being. We'll see in two weeks...
Glad so many did the absentee...Alive and well for the time being. We'll see in two weeks...
I'm in a very small community. We had 120 absentee ballots, waiting on 25 more. Normal election we get about 5-10 total. Total turnout (absentee and live) was 220, 75 in person, which is pretty high turnout considering a November Presidential election brings in about 260.
It's a running joke for every time a Dem dropped out of the race:Not sure I’m getting the point here.
It is time, Pete- https://i.imgur.com/UMDDGBm.jpg
It is time, Amy Klobuchar: https://imgur.com/a/lgk4UGI
Except for Sanders the guy added Eugene Debs, MLK & FDR.
No one could have foreseen this virus affecting the election in November. Or something along those lines.Dem leadership better get on the stick now and get alternative voting plans in place.
With what the R's pulled in Wisconsin, it's quite clear that their party will do anything necessary to suppress voting in cities.
5 polling place open in Milwaukee? Dem leadership has to assume that republicans will do whatever they can to limit voting availability and have plans in place.
Ignore all the briefings months in advance. Focus on golfing and rallies. That's the American way.No one could have foreseen this virus affecting the election in November. Or something along those lines.
Let's assume everything you wrote is true.Trump deserved to be impeached. It's ironic you use the phrase "gone viral" because impeachment and Trump's inept handling of this virus will be his legacy. The man peddles BS daily to the American public and the right wing gobbles it up. A man like him would not make it a week in a normal business that requires competency.
The democratic party has its issues, sure. But the GOP is a scourge on America at this point. They have no values other than power. They're good sacrificing all values in pursuit of more power, from federal judges, supreme court justices, Trump's positions on many issues, his personal conduct both in office and before...it's all fair game in order to get what they want.
You're using basically Trump's attack method, which is to accuse the other party/person of all of your own failings. Again, the dems have issues but at least they're competent. Trump and his GOP? Not competent.
How in the world does Biden make Trump look palatable? Biden is a centrist in the Obama mold. Nobody in their right mind who would vote for Sanders or Warren would turn around and vote for Trump over Biden. if anything Biden is too milquetoast but that's what's needed to seize the vast majority of dems and win back the working class somewhat. Just look how Biden crushed Hillary's numbers in the midwest. Once we oust Trump, then we can debate between centrist and progressive, but for now we need to ensure that Trump is gone, and a centrist candidate who appeals to minorities and the working class is what's needed.Let's assume everything you wrote is true.
Why in tarnation couldn't the Democrats end up with a better candidate than Biden? As much as I disagree with Sanders and Warren on policies, I respect them as people (Sanders more so, Warren is still better than Joe). The D even had somewhat decent candidates a few months ago but they couldn't get sufficient support.
The Ds had 4 years to get their #### together and they wind up with possibly the only candidates who make Trump look palatable.
Black voters decide who the Democratic nominee is. Black voters like Joe Biden.Let's assume everything you wrote is true.
Why in tarnation couldn't the Democrats end up with a better candidate than Biden? As much as I disagree with Sanders and Warren on policies, I respect them as people (Sanders more so, Warren is still better than Joe). The D even had somewhat decent candidates a few months ago but they couldn't get sufficient support.
The Ds had 4 years to get their #### together and they wind up with possibly the only candidates who make Trump look palatable.
But should they?Black voters decide who the Democratic nominee is. Black voters like Joe Biden.
Its really that simple.
Creepy Joe makes a lot of people look better than they are. I'm not necessarily talking his policies.How in the world does Biden make Trump look palatable? Biden is a centrist in the Obama mold. Nobody in their right mind who would vote for Sanders or Warren would turn around and vote for Trump over Biden. if anything Biden is too milquetoast but that's what's needed to seize the vast majority of dems and win back the working class somewhat. Just look how Biden crushed Hillary's numbers in the midwest. Once we oust Trump, then we can debate between centrist and progressive, but for now we need to ensure that Trump is gone, and a centrist candidate who appeals to minorities and the working class is what's needed.
I think turnout from Bernie supporters will be a bigger issue for Biden than them voting for TrumpNobody in their right mind who would vote for Sanders or Warren would turn around and vote for Trump over Biden.
I'm betting they turn out significantly better for Joe than they did for Hillary. Bernie's dropped out early and he's been getting killed in the primaries. If Joe's smart, he'll make sure that everyone knows that Bernie's platform is important to him.I think turnout from Bernie supporters will be a bigger issue for Biden than them voting for Trump
I don't think anyone thinks Joe is creepy other than hardcore Trump supporters. If anything, as the voting has shown, Joe is extremely relateable and likeable.But should they?
Creepy Joe makes a lot of people look better than they are. I'm not necessarily talking his policies.
Policy wise Joe is ok. Not great, but ok.
We'll see if Joe can oust Trump. I wouldn't bet on it.
His VP selection will be key.
If Joe picks duckworth, whitmer or Harris his chances increase bigly.
I'd imagine the hardcore Trump supporters, based on what has come out about Trump in regards to ##### grabbing and whatnot, don't feel Biden is being creeper enough for their tastes.I don't think anyone thinks Joe is creepy other than hardcore Trump supporters. If anything, as the voting has shown, Joe is extremely relateable and likeable.
sounds about right.I think turnout from Bernie supporters will be a bigger issue for Biden than them voting for Trump
I'm not sure. There's a lot of Berners who are pretty frustrated with the system overall. With Hillary it was more spiteful because it was more of a feeling of getting screwed by the DNC... I could see why people would spite vote for Trump. This time it's more of a feeling that there's no way to break through with the Dems and there's no Bernie 2024 so why even bother.I'm betting they turn out significantly better for Joe than they did for Hillary. Bernie's dropped out early and he's been getting killed in the primaries. If Joe's smart, he'll make sure that everyone knows that Bernie's platform is important to him.
Your first sentence is simply untrue. I'm not a Trump supporter, let alone hardcore. Do you think tara Reade and other past staffers are lying and became Trump supporters?I don't think anyone thinks Joe is creepy other than hardcore Trump supporters. If anything, as the voting has shown, Joe is extremely relateable and likeable.
Not calling you a Trump supporter, just that I've never heard anyone else call Biden creepy. I guess one gal said he made her uncomfortable?Your first sentence is simply untrue. I'm not a Trump supporter, let alone hardcore. Do you think tara Reade and other past staffers are lying and became Trump supporters?
The second seems to be true.