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Coronavirus Poll > Snapshot of FBG Preparedness/Mindset > Ends Wednesday (1 Viewer)
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JerseyToughGuys
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Could answer multiple things for 2 and 3 for multiple reasons
Significant impact on markets, negligible impact on my day-to-day life.
Could answer multiple things for 2 and 3 for multiple reasons
Significant impact on markets, negligible impact on my day-to-day life.
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Insoxicated
Good question:
For the purposes of the poll let's disregard purely market related unrealized-loss impacts.
However if you think those market issues could cause you to lose your job/house/etc that would be a day to day impact.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Is there a good prepper thread going? Genuinely interested in reading the thought process. Do some suspect our entire supply chain is going to break?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
what about purely market related political impacts like further reductions in interest rates / QE? The election, etc?
Down the rabbit hole we go!~@!~@
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Insoxicated
I'd say disregard those issues for the purposes of this thread, and focus largely on health-related and other impacts closer to home.
Definitely could be other factors triggered by these existing supply chain disruptions that cascade into other more significant issues, but for this thread let's set those aside for now.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
"I've purchased sanitation supplies (Lysol wipes/spray, bleach, etc)"
Like more than normal? Why would you need to horde this stuff in preparation for the virus? Do the germs multiply?
Like more than normal? Why would you need to horde this stuff in preparation for the virus? Do the germs multiply?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I want to know what I should be doing, Bell!
Should I worry about the water in my well? Is there a risk it gets clogged with dead people?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Could there be a run on Q-tips if things go south? I cannot imagine running out of Q-tips. Nasty ear wax.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
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Insoxicated
Doesn't really have to be "HORDING" status... I imagine folks might picking up an extra can of Lysol or disinfecting wipes to use in disinfecting surfaces/people in an effort to reduce risk of infecting family members.
Odds of dead people clogging well are .0001%. Odds of well being an awesome source of tasty water: 100%
Agreed nothing worse than waxy ear canals.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Is the primary concern the risk of being quarantined and cut off from the normal supply chain? (I may be mistaken but I don't see folks being quarantined and being cut off from food and water and qtips)Doesn't really have to be "HORDING" status... I imagine folks might picking up an extra can of Lysol or disinfecting wipes to use in disinfecting surfaces/people in an effort to reduce risk of infecting family members.
Odds of dead people clogging well are .0001%. Odds of well being an awesome source of tasty water: 100%
Agreed nothing worse than waxy ear canals.
Or is it the supply chain more generally? Like fewer shipments because more sick people? More downtime at water plant because more people are sick, etc?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
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Insoxicated
There are currently major shortages on masks, disinfecting wipes, toilet paper, etc in areas that are hit hardest by this. This also applies to OTC medications as well as other supplies.
Supply chain disruption is a factor but also so is everyone going to the store to buy stuff at once. Kinda like what happens to grocery stores when snow is forecast. Except now imagine the CDC tells everyone to be ready to shelter in place and not leave your house for 2 weeks or whatever it could end up being.
Some folks would rather have that stuff on hand in case there is a run on stores. Others don't see it being an issue.
That's why we have the poll.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I have seen sketchy twitter videos showing lines for masks in China. I always question whether their are accurately depicting what they are claiming. I haven't seen anything on the other supplies. Toilet paper seems ... odd. Link? What kind of OTS meds would be a big concern? Like flu symptom meds? That seems likely.There are currently major shortages on masks, disinfecting wipes, toilet paper, etc in areas that are hit hardest by this. This also applies to OTC medications as well as other supplies.
Supply chain disruption is a factor but also so is everyone going to the store to buy stuff at once. Kinda like what happens to grocery stores when snow is forecast. Except now imagine the CDC tells everyone to be ready to shelter in place and not leave your house for 2 weeks or whatever it could end up being.
Some folks would rather have that stuff on hand in case there is a run on stores. Others don't see it being an issue.
That's why we have the poll.
Do you think this is a possibility here? What percentage chance in your opinion? If you do this, do you still need a #### ton of clorox? If so, why?
And pointing to the hording milk and bread during snow storms and hurricanes kinda supports the notion that these things aren't always the most rational of behaviors, no?
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JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
This thing is transmitted like the flu right? Saliva, mucus membranes, etc.?
The mask thing is an interesting aspect of this too. I have never considered sending my kids to school in masks when the flu makes its rounds. Instead, I try to get them to practice better hygiene. Maybe I should be more proactive and go the mask route?
The mask thing is an interesting aspect of this too. I have never considered sending my kids to school in masks when the flu makes its rounds. Instead, I try to get them to practice better hygiene. Maybe I should be more proactive and go the mask route?
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Insoxicated
I'm not positioning anything as rational, nor am I advocating anything as what others should do. I was answering your questions as to why someone might want to do it.
Your hyperbole (why do you need a ####ton of clorox) and tone makes your position pretty clear. I don't think there's any reason to pretend you have an open mind on this, and that's okay. You're probably right. Honestly I think everyone hopes ya are.
If your kid suddenly develops a bad fever/cough/pneumonia and you go to CVS to find the shelves bare, does it matter how logical the forces were that rendered you unable to treat your child's symptoms?
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I might buy a few extra cans of beans next time I go to the store
i used to keep a pretty decently stocked freezer / pantry (not a prepper by any means, just would stock up when on sale) but last year or so we’ve been making a weekly meal list and mostly just buying what we need for the week
could probably survive a week or two if we had to, although would depend on if we had access to water or not. Bottled water supply is pretty minimal
i used to keep a pretty decently stocked freezer / pantry (not a prepper by any means, just would stock up when on sale) but last year or so we’ve been making a weekly meal list and mostly just buying what we need for the week
could probably survive a week or two if we had to, although would depend on if we had access to water or not. Bottled water supply is pretty minimal
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I have no opinion. Just a massive lack of knowledge regarding why there is a realistic need to prep like its more like the zombie apocalypse and less like a super flu that's going to kill a ton of elderly, infirm, etc.I'm not positioning anything as rational, nor am I advocating anything as what others should do. I was answering your questions as to why someone might want to do it.
Your hyperbole (why do you need a ####ton of clorox) and tone makes your position pretty clear. I don't think there's any reason to pretend you have an open mind on this, and that's okay. You're probably right. Honestly I think everyone hopes ya are.
If your kid suddenly develops a bad fever/cough/pneumonia and you go to CVS to find the shelves bare, does it matter how logical the forces were that rendered you unable to treat your child's symptoms?
I want to understand the rationale case for prepping and why specifics, like toilet paper, are on the list.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I would treat them with the stuff I have on hand. Just like I did when they got the normal flu. Parents tend to keep these things on hand.I'm not positioning anything as rational, nor am I advocating anything as what others should do. I was answering your questions as to why someone might want to do it.
Your hyperbole (why do you need a ####ton of clorox) and tone makes your position pretty clear. I don't think there's any reason to pretend you have an open mind on this, and that's okay. You're probably right. Honestly I think everyone hopes ya are.
If your kid suddenly develops a bad fever/cough/pneumonia and you go to CVS to find the shelves bare, does it matter how logical the forces were that rendered you unable to treat your child's symptoms?
What about the pandemic changes this scenario? Is he/she going to need 2x more of the medication for some unique reason? Why won't what I currently possess be good enough? Same rationale for cleaning supplies? Why am I suddenly going to be consuming more cleaning supplies? Are we suddenly getting more germy? Less clean?
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Footballguy
I'm not really sure how to answer 4. I always have a month's supply of food and water. I have some N99 masks and spare filters, but they're more for dealing with annual wildfires. I always have complete first aid kits for my home and boat. I have emergency supplies ready in case of any major emergency where it would be necessary to leave my home. I'm more prepared for a major earthquake, but it's basically the same.
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Insoxicated
More hyperbole...zombie apocalypse
The CDC has directly called for all families to have at least 2 weeks of food and water on hand. Common sense would indicate making sure you've got enough of other supplies on hand (like toilet paper) for that same duration. Other public health experts have stated that "at least 2 weeks" is insufficient. Couple other comments then I'll leave ya to google further inquiries.
1) When was the last time 10% of humanity was living under quarantine due to the flu?
2) Google works pretty well if you search for "toilet paper Coronavirus". This applies to other questions you might have, as well.
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Insoxicated
Sounds like you have prepped with sufficient meds and cleaning supplies for a good flu season. You're ahead of the game. :highfive:
I'm going to make a mental leap here, but perhaps the few folks who indicated that they were purchasing OTC meds might have been running low, or out? It's clear your brain is only able to address this in hyperbolic absolutes, but it's possible people are grabbing a bottle of Robitussin and a can of lysol, and not purchasing everything by the gallon.
Cheers, GB
Mookie
Footballguy
We were going on bike trip in the Dolomites (flying into Venice) in June. That's looking unlikely, especially now that my over-worrying wife and her crazy-worrying sister are losing sleep over it. Doctor and nurse friends say it should all be fine by then. I'm keeping my mouth shut.
The time to worry is if cases start popping up across the country. If that happens, it big trouble Jerry because it means it is every where already. We've been holding steady but all it takes is one infected person on a plane to pass it to another person before knowing they have it. This thing is exactly what it will look like if there is ever a real bad killer pandemic.
mr. furley
Footballguy
anyone know how this is different than, say, SARS or whatever virus outbreak we had in 2019, or 2018, 2017, etc.?
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Headed to Palm Island in late April (tiny island just south of St. Vincent & the Grenadines) ...hadn't really thought about it.
Should I?
Should I?
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
SARS and MERS are also both caused by a strain of coronavirus.
The timing of how symptoms present can be different but ultimately they all progress into a similar clinical syndrome.
Otis
Footballguy
There’s some good stuff happening over in the Official coronavirus thread. Which has some other title that makes no sense.
Otis
Footballguy
jamny
Footballguy
Yup...we bought a condo there in December. We hope to be out of NY and full time in Boise by the end of the year.
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Insoxicated
Boise is supposed to be gorgeous. Have two buddies who are considering moving their families there within the next 10 years or so.
mr. furley
Footballguy
so it's just rebranding something that already existed to drum up headlines?
jamny
Footballguy
It's amazing. Seems like a great place to raise kids too. Prices are really shooting up. That's kinda why we bought when we did even though we weren't exactly ready to move. @Getzlaf15 is a real estate agent there if they decide to make the move. He helped us get everything in order.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
But are they grabbing an extra cans of lysol? Buying 2 instead of the normal one? If so, why? Is demand spiking? Or do you fear supply being depleted? That's the part I don't get, though I can understand supply chain issues a little better than increased demand for things like cleaning supplies.Sounds like you have prepped with sufficient meds and cleaning supplies for a good flu season. You're ahead of the game. :highfive:
I'm going to make a mental leap here, but perhaps the few folks who indicated that they were purchasing OTC meds might have been running low, or out? It's clear your brain is only able to address this in hyperbolic absolutes, but it's possible people are grabbing a bottle of Robitussin and a can of lysol, and not purchasing everything by the gallon.
Cheers, GB
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I only answered 2 and 3 because I had to
I have no idea what to expect or when
I have no idea what to expect or when
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
No.This is a novel strain.
There are several widely prevalent strains of coronavirus that usually cause mild upper respiratory infections in humans--a common head cold. The 3 novel strains identified that are associated with SARS, MERS and COVID19 can cause much more severe illness in a small percentage of those who contract the virus.
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