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The only thing giving me pause is that there's been some work/research analysis done on QBs that aren't first-rounders, and it's not a good hit rate for success. Generally, there's a ton of failure once you're out of the first, meaning that the NFL already puts a premium on QBs so that they really don't miss any, Tom Brady and a few others notwithstanding (Russell Wilson, too).
yeah and others dont like his throwing motion and his ability to read the field is not the best. right now. but hes looked better the past 2 seasons. he gets a bad rap cause he lost his job. to an amazing top 5 draft pick in tua. Im a believer. also a bama fan so I am biased. But hes a got a great pedigree, work ethic, etc. everything you want to see in a player that could take some serious next steps.
There is similar analytics with edge players, but I think they both get to the same point for different reasons. Edge guys, there is a physical minimum you must meet to beat NFL tackles, and if you have those traits, the NFL will find you , and overdraft you. QBs, I have a suspicion that QBs taken after the 1st are a lot less likely to have the team commit to them, the way a team really needs to for a QB to succeed. If Minshew is only average this year, he's not guaranteed 2021 the way Daniel Jones is, right? Still, no matter the reason, QBs that go later rarely pan out.
I will always believe people wrote off Hurts when he left Alabama, and it's just confirmation bias for a LOT of evaluators that we've been reading. They're looking for bad. And maybe the NFL is guilty as well. Why was Jordan Love taken over Hurts? I don't get it.
What's bigger to me is how he handled everything thrown at him and came out of it stronger. When he came back into the sec championship game for a hurt Tua and beat Georgia cold off the bench i was so impressed. Then he transfers to Oklahoma and puts up those numbers in a totally new environment in one year? He's underrated and I hope his success continues.
Looking at Wentz's contract, which is the biggest factor in assessing Hurts' future, the various paths to Hurts gaining relevance look pretty glum.
Bloom said that in his post-draft top 100. Barring injury, he costs a roster spot for a long wait.
He’s nothing more than a lottery ticket. Or a bad team drafts him, and holds him for a while until they luck into something.
3.14 third round, last pick.
Unless its SF, I think you'll be fine @ 42
Just looked at Dynasty ranks for rookie drafts and they have him at 42 haha. It'll be close but seems like the perfect spot to pick him in for you as a wentz owner.im feel comfortable at 42, but hoping to wait until 56.
yeah, good call. my team is winning now, and the smart play is to not make mistakes. missing him will haunt me, as foles is my only backup. :(
Oh definitely then if Foles is your only backup. Curious now if he gets to you at 42, when's your draft?
i could take him at 28 to be sure. draft is in late sept.
I would not risk that at all. The names ahead of him aren't that impressive either. If you lose Carson your season is done.
Haha if you're talking about maybe waiting on him, and also talking about moving up for him, just stay where you're at and take him at 42!
here is my team, care to rate it?
Pretty solid. So many QB's! Can't believe you have so much riding on Carson. Hurts is an absolute must for you. Is Sudfeld owned? Looks like Gronk is owned?here is my team, care to rate it?
http://www68.myfantasyleague.com/2019/options?L=16444&F=0012&O=07
luck retired on me, i was hoping for 10 more years out of him.
I think you're good with Carson and in the chance he gets hurt, you'll have Hurts who I think could put up some decent fantasy numbers if he was the starter in this offense. Don't think QB is really a DIRE need for you.luck retired on me, i was hoping for 10 more years out of him.
hurts is mandatory for me.
my options are:
1. nothing, hope foles is still starting by my bye week.
2. trade oj howard for a qb2/3.
3. draft burrow at 14 or herberttat 28.
Completely agree. The high upside is worth it over many of the options in the #30 overall range in rookie drafts. The extension Wentz received last year is rough, but Hurts could still have value in a gadget/slash role. An injury to Wentz makes Hurts skyrocket in value.
I got laughed out of the eagles thread for suggesting he could be the starting QB for the Eagles as early as next year. I'm not saying its likely but I see a path for him to push Wentz out of the way. A key injury to Wentz and a couple Lamar Jackson like performances and look out.
Remember when Lloyd Christmas told Mary Swanson “So you’re telling me there’s a chance?!”?
