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RB Joshua Kelley, LAC (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Well, that depends on if they're talking about game or season. Jackson hasn't been around to poach carries yet, and if Kelley runs for less than three a clip again, you'll surely see Jackson.
exactly! Kelley had nowhere too run and looked fine. Trust me, he's better than Jackson and the coaches know it. I doin't even know the last time Jackson was healthy for more than a week our two
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Anyone want to chime in after today? Had a fumble pretty early as I recall, had a ton of hype going this week, all the carries he has piled up and a lot of owners were playing him as RB2/Flex options, especially those who had major injuries Weeks 1 and 2.
Who would say Trade For? Do I hear a WR you could trade and fetch him for? What is the temperature going into Week 4?
Did he finish the game healthy?
Who would say Trade For? Do I hear a WR you could trade and fetch him for? What is the temperature going into Week 4?
Did he finish the game healthy?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The fumble while not solely his fault was still partly his fault deep down inside their own territory and it sparked the Bucs going into their locker room right before the half.
Then there's also the fact he had 9 carries and 7 yards
Start him with confidence next week?
Then there's also the fact he had 9 carries and 7 yards
Start him with confidence next week?
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Split the differnence with ya -- I'll be starting him, but not with confidence.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
" Chargers schedule is nice over the five games (@NO, NYJ, @MIA, JAX, LV)"
I cannot imagine many fantasy rosters have too many nicer looking flex plays.
I cannot imagine many fantasy rosters have too many nicer looking flex plays.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I don't know what Ekeler's injury is going to pan out to be. I don't wish injury on anyone.
But playing it out, if Ekeler's out for a number of games, we'll likely see both Kelley and Jackson have a role.
Looking at today, neither back did well with the few carries they had. No back did in this game for LAC, and the game tilted to the air game.
But Kelley has shown that he can be solid so far this year -- his limitation was much more Ekeler than ability.
What I do know is the Chargers' schedule looks favorable, and I think this will at worst start out as a pure RBBC between Kelley and Jackson.
And at best, Kelley likely takes early down work -- he's built just a bit heavier than Jackson -- and with the opportunity, becomes a solid flex paly with RB 2 upside.
Jackson has shown he could be solid as well. But between the two, my money is on Kelley.
We'll see.
But playing it out, if Ekeler's out for a number of games, we'll likely see both Kelley and Jackson have a role.
Looking at today, neither back did well with the few carries they had. No back did in this game for LAC, and the game tilted to the air game.
But Kelley has shown that he can be solid so far this year -- his limitation was much more Ekeler than ability.
What I do know is the Chargers' schedule looks favorable, and I think this will at worst start out as a pure RBBC between Kelley and Jackson.
And at best, Kelley likely takes early down work -- he's built just a bit heavier than Jackson -- and with the opportunity, becomes a solid flex paly with RB 2 upside.
Jackson has shown he could be solid as well. But between the two, my money is on Kelley.
We'll see.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I’m more concerned that the Chargers sign someone off the street than I am about Jackson. Neither of these two are close to Ekeker as a pass catcher. What does their practice squad look like?
dmac37
Footballguy
The fumble yesterday is more on Herbert from what I saw, Herbert placed the ball on his right shoulder pad. With the Saints being somewhat of a tough matchup next week, it will be a good week to evaluate usage, especially in the passing game and determine if he may be an FF RB2 or RB3/Flex moving forward.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I believe Darius Bradwell (UDFA signing who was a QB in college) and a pure journeyman Tromayne Pope are backs on the Bolts' PS. So no one who is going to threaten either Kelley of Jackson for meaningful share.
I don't know who is left out there as a FA.
Powell, Lynch (doubt he unretires), Crowell, Turbin, Javorius Allen, DeAndre Washington, and Rod Smith maybe fit needs? Could actually see DeAndre Washington as more of a gap-filler for Ekeler's pass-catching but it's not as if he's proven head and shoulders better then Kelley/Jackson.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Kelley was close to a Top 100 pick, yes it was the 4th roud but RBs are not a highly respected position these days in the NFL, lot of teams just don't believe in locking up cap space on a RB that is prone to injuries due to the punishment week in week out. I agree with others that the fumble was not really his fault.
That said he has a rookie QB that I cannot see them sending back to the bench unless he starts throwing Pick-6s left and right. I would like to see him string a couple of good games together the next couple weeks.
To the Ekeler owners I hope he has a speedy recovery, there's room for both of them to have their moments in this offense and this is not the reason you want to see your rookie RB suddenly thrust into a potential starting spot.
I believe Ekeler will be sorely missed and the Chargers will want to get him back out there and moving the offense so let's just approach the next several weeks as simply an audition for Kelley and hopefully he can hold of Jackson first and foremost and hopefully gain the trust of his coaches so he can still handle a decent chunk when they ease Ekeler back in.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Anyone starting Kelley this weekend?
I'm optimistic about volume, but we have Jackson to contend with and still uncertain how load will be distributed across the two in Ekeler's absence.
With a very tough run D, playing on the road with a rookie QB, it just doesn't seem like the game script will go his way either.
Want to believe, and I see him projected well on FBG and other sites, but the match up scares me and it may be safer to roll with a guy like Jeudy
I'm optimistic about volume, but we have Jackson to contend with and still uncertain how load will be distributed across the two in Ekeler's absence.
With a very tough run D, playing on the road with a rookie QB, it just doesn't seem like the game script will go his way either.
Want to believe, and I see him projected well on FBG and other sites, but the match up scares me and it may be safer to roll with a guy like Jeudy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
For that role in the offense I think Riddick is out there and a lot of people don't realize that he's only 29yo. He never panned out quite like I had hoped but Buck Allen is also a FA I believe and he's a very competent receiver out of the backfield.
I always think those late 20-something vets make for good mid-season signings. They have been in the league for several years, usually know how to pick up a blitz if they have to, have already adjusted to the speed of the NFL, etc. In August every team thinks they have found a great 22yo to play 2nd/3rd string but when they are thrust into a bigger role in the offense, especially with a rookie QB, give me the B- veteran who will never develop into an A- player but is less likely to make the big mistake as well.
Penguin
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
59 touches as a rookie in 4 games as the back up or not the primary ball carrier. His starting Center is OUT for the season, Pouncey.
Kelley had 12 carries Week1 for 60 yards. Next week he had 23 carries and the last two weeks only 17 carries combined but I think the Chargers wanted to see what they had and also use a 2 Back attack throughout the game. That's what a Lynn-Led Coaching system has built in Los Angeles even if he isn't going to be around for much longer at the rate they are losing.
I think Kelley has a terrific chance to see a lot of snaps, will they be fruitful? I think the Pats will focus on stopping Herbert 1st and foremost.
Kelley had 12 carries Week1 for 60 yards. Next week he had 23 carries and the last two weeks only 17 carries combined but I think the Chargers wanted to see what they had and also use a 2 Back attack throughout the game. That's what a Lynn-Led Coaching system has built in Los Angeles even if he isn't going to be around for much longer at the rate they are losing.
I think Kelley has a terrific chance to see a lot of snaps, will they be fruitful? I think the Pats will focus on stopping Herbert 1st and foremost.
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Doug B
Footballguy
If it affects the calculus: New Orleans is still playing without fans at home. Both Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, when they played in the Superdome, were able to do all their usual snap counts and line calls verbally -- silent counts weren't needed. Opposing offensive players have been able to hear at the line just fine.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Excellent point Doug, it really does matter, the fan base and being indoors, they try and downplay it but you cannot deny what you read about Brady and Rodgers visiting an empty Superdome.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Riddick is a Raider. Got anyone else?
ETA: Just read that they picked up Ballage. Not sure that's going to be a huge threat to either JK or JJ.
Agree with @Ministry of Pain they are going to continue to roll with a 2 back set, and dance with the guys they have to do it.
I get that, and you're right there is really a cap on home field advantage this year.
But you still have a West Coast team travelling east. At least it's MNF and not an early Sunday game, but from what I've been reading many teams fly in and out same day to limit exposure. Not sure if that's the Chargers' MO, but they still have to get to the Superdome.
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Truly sucks. I don't know why JJ was in on so many more snaps. Outside JJ's one big run (and I could have gained 36 yards through that hole) their stat line on the ground is kinda similar, and neither looked stellar.
Was really hoping he'd be reliable flex play. I'm thinking Chase Edmonds is much better of a plug in at flex going forward.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It's over, close the book on him
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
my guess is that they don't feel comfortable with kelley as a received and/or in pass pro, so having JJ in lets them disguise their looks a lot a better. I agree that JJ didn't look amazing as a runner.
ATB
Footballguy
Watched the whole game. Looked like a hot-hand approach. JJ just looked like the better runner last night and I think they trust him more. Wouldn't surprise me if Kelley looks like the better runner after their bye and it's a wild dart throw as to which one gets more carries week to week.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
to be fair, this had to be more about the lack of trust on the oline than it was about Kelley. i mean, three defenders ran through that line before Herbert even got the ball in his hands.
ATB
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Neither of them are. But Jackson started and saw more snaps, touches, and targets than Kelley. I think the Chargers wanted Kelley to be a big part of the offense, but he's done very little with his audition touches so they've slowly moved away from that idea. He'll obviously get touches while Ekeler is out, but he's the third back when everyone is healthy.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
True. And RB is so thin that I guess I agree that he’s a stash. Sorry for the nitpick. It’s just clear that he’s struggling and losing favor. I got him as a secondary piece in a dynasty trade and wanted to like him, watched every snap, and - oof.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Don't apologize - this is how we all get better. The 'RB is so thin' line is why he is still of interest to me. He's not on any of my dyno rosters and that was intentional. But for the immediate future? Obviously Mattison is the add for this week where available, but for those without that ability (everyone waiver priority #3 and down) who are you replacing Kelley with? Burkhead and D'Ernest (blegh) are the first two under 50% ownership. I could be talked into Duke and Breida. And then...(crickets).
It's fugly out there.
