Concept Coop
Footballguy
I’m not writing him off or basing my opinion on one game. He could obviously put it together. I just think the game is too fast for him right now and doubt he’ll be a good flex option this season unless JJ goes down.
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RB Joshua Kelley, LAC (1 Viewer)
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Depends on the team.
One of mine with Dobbins is 3-2 and is the current high scorer - I have M Sanders, J Conner, J Robinson, A Gibson, and Dobbins. I can afford to be patient, so I'm finding out if Dobbins' role expands post bye with him stashed.
I have another team that is 4-1 and also the high scorer. BUT...my RB's are Zeke, Edmonds, Akers, and Chubb (IR). Hypothetically speaking, should both become available next week what I do likely depends on a win or loss this week. And if my place in the standings were worse then I absolutely would prioritize Kelley.
The objective is to have the best team come December, but you have to get there first.
ATB
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm 2-3 in my big money league and currently in 5th place behind four teams that are all 4-1. We have a 6-team playoff though, so that helps a lot.
My RBs are CMC, Drake, Gibson, Edmonds, Freeman, Kelley, and Dobbins.
WRs are Godwin, AJ Brown, Diggs, and Shenault.
TEs are Gesicki, Hockenson, and Tonyan (I know this is a total taco move but my biggest weakness is TE right now).
QB is Wilson and he's on BYE which is what's forcing me to consider dropping someone I want to keep.
I really like my chances of making the playoffs, especially with Godwin and CMC coming back soon, but I also don't want to gift a player to another team that could come back to hurt me later (like Dobbins hitting a second-half blowup or Kelley blowing up after his BYE week).
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I am looking at dropping Kelley for Cooks.MAC_32 said:
With Kelley on a bye and given his own fugly performance, there may not be any takers so I *might* be able to snag him again on the other side of week 6.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Checking in on Joshua Kelley prospects with Justin Jackson in the mix and Ekeler out for a lil while with injury.
I posted this on another thread I started because nothing come up in the search bar.
Searched for Joshua Kelley and Justin Jackson and got no lead threads.
With Ekeler out for a period of time these two names come to the front. Sounds like most liked how Justin rushed over Joshua in their one game out before the bye.
What happens from here on out? I see Justin rated higher this week, but Joshua rated higher for the ROS. Is that because Joshua compliments a return of Ekeler better then Justin? Just seeing what might come out of the LAC backfield so I can strategize moving forward. Throw into the mix Ekeler's injury could linger longer then previous thought.
I posted this on another thread I started because nothing come up in the search bar.
Searched for Joshua Kelley and Justin Jackson and got no lead threads.
With Ekeler out for a period of time these two names come to the front. Sounds like most liked how Justin rushed over Joshua in their one game out before the bye.
What happens from here on out? I see Justin rated higher this week, but Joshua rated higher for the ROS. Is that because Joshua compliments a return of Ekeler better then Justin? Just seeing what might come out of the LAC backfield so I can strategize moving forward. Throw into the mix Ekeler's injury could linger longer then previous thought.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Jackson listed as limited in practice...on Wed.
That he's listed as questionable is a sign (to me) that he still plays and still gets the start. Things may change, but would be more concerned if JJ was out, or if we see him limited through today and tomorrow's practice.
That said, I nabbed Kelley again. My gut is churning that the whole "JJ is the lead back based on his last performance" is just that -- based on his last performance, and if he's dinged or Kelley clearly outplays him, the situation becomes reversed. This reversal isn't out of the realm of possibility as until last game, Kelley looked decent and was handling his duties fine.
With the news on Ekeler being out "longer rather than shorter" I am betting on Kelley just having a bad game last week, and his potential to be a strong contributor again going forwward until Kelley is back in a clear share.
That JJ's knee is dinged makes it that much more appealing of a speculative add.
We'll see.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
What say you MoP? Kelley or Jackson? Who's the better option moving forward...
MoP I picked up Kelley as a flyer and see Jackson available and was rated higher this week by FBG's, but Kelley higher ROS by FBG's. I think I may stand pat on Kelley sitting on my bench for now.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Anyone with an opinion on Kelley vs Cooks in PPR?
Both guys are boom bust and Kelley has the better matchup and JJ with a sore knee, but Hou is bound to have to throw to keep up with GB.
Both guys are boom bust and Kelley has the better matchup and JJ with a sore knee, but Hou is bound to have to throw to keep up with GB.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
You sure don't have confidence in starting Brandin Cooks.
I don't know much about Kelly and for some reason I have been too lazy to learn more about him. I have seen him play a little bit. I was not impressed. In the game I did see I thought Jackson who I think is okay but just a guy himself was better than him.
I guess the volume Kelly could get if Jackson isn't able to go is worth considering. I think Cooks is a much better player than Kelly is but opportunity gets you more points.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
So I read the thread and I looked at Kellys stats so far this year.
He is only getting 3.2 ypc so far. Thats not so good. He has caught every target though and if your league is PPR thats maybe all you need him to do.
He is only getting 3.2 ypc so far. Thats not so good. He has caught every target though and if your league is PPR thats maybe all you need him to do.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I appreciate, and you're right -- I don't have a lot of faith in Cooks. Or Kelley for that matter. Comes with their boom/bust nature.
Kelly had a respectably 12+ points in PPR splitting time in Games 1 and 2 and has barely cracked 5 the last three.
Cooks started off week on with 3 points, netting 13, then 4, 0, 30, and 18 for his next 5 games.
They are both unpredictable and have burned me whenever I try to start either.
In terms of projections this week, not sure I see huge separation between them either.
But I do appreciate your indulgence -- your insight always delivers rational argument and data, and is greatly appreciated!
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
I guess my thought is that you should try to trade Cooks and Kelly for someone you would feel better about starting at flex than these two.
leave a whisper
Footballguy
I am playing him this week over J Taylor ..... I feel good about 80-100 total yards and a TD this week (home vs Raiders)
I’m done starting him. Jjax will get the majority of the carries, but I’d also opt for him over Taylor
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
leave a whisper
Footballguy
well .......... when is Ekeler back ?!? 
The Frankman
Footballguy
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So what happens now? With Kelley coming back soon does he jump back into being Ekler's backup or does Spiller remain ahead of him? My total guess is that since Kelley beat out spiller pre season and Spiller really hasnt done much while Kelley has been away Kelley gets the job back. Total speculation though as I cant find any info out there.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't know, but I do know that without an Ekeler injury, both are pretty much useless. I would assume Kelley gets his job back, but that's also an assumption. It's a coaches' decision that only game usage will tell us, really.
Kelley is the guy if Ekeler goes down; Spiller would spell him
Ive been scouring the web and the forum for info even before it was announced he was set to return (which was why I ended up in the spiller thread lol) I was down to Ekler and Stevenson at rb after 3 injuries to rbs. Somebody unexpectedly dropped Murray right before denver parted ways with Melvin Gordon and I won him with what I thought was a lowball bid of 42 out of 200 faab so I am considerably less desperate now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
What about Kelley?
Well I WAS trying to figure out when he was coming back. Now that he is back I was trying to figure out if he or spiller would be Eklers backup....Now I have Murray unexpectedly its not such a priority figuring out who the handcuff to Ekler is...( But I picked up Kelley anyway figuring spiller had his chance and didnt do much with it)
Down Under
Footballguy
I don't think 15 carries qualifies as "had his chance"
Well he had a chance to win the backup job in pre season and was beaten out by kelley. He has had his second chance and in 3 games averaged less than 2.9 yards per carry ( the last 2 games he had 8 carries for a terrible 14 yards). Do you suggest they give him more carries and bench ekler to let that happen? Bottom line somebody will be the backup to ekler. In 2 chances imo spiller is o for 2. Yes its a small sample size but that sample size is over 3 games.... Michel has gotten 1 carry per game those 3 games. Bottom line is SOMEBODY will be eklers backup. Theplan was to have ekler have less of a load this year and both spiller and michel havent done well.... Kelley at least averaged better than either of the other 2. He is back active and I expect him to be Eklers backup. They may well give spiller more games...but I wouldnt.
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TartanLion
Footballguy
Mods can we get all these Kelley threads merged ??
zamboni
Footballguy
Cheers - The Kelly Song
Woody sings Kelly a song he wrote for her on her birthday.Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, K - E - L - L - Y I do not own this!
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McBokonon
Footballguy
Try reporting the thread and asking in the report.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
While this is helpful (weird), we may have overlooked he posted at 420 pm.
Pretty sure was British street slang for guys you wouldn’t believe how stoned I got trying to stay awake for TNF
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Where there's smoke there's fire.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
He was in an almost 50/50 timeshare with Ekeler in a very close game, not just in snaps, but actual rushing attempts as well. While I wouldn't expect a 50/50 timeshare all the time, it feels pretty clear they trust him and plan on using him a lot. Not sure what people's league settings are, but he could be the best RB you get on waivers all season long. Not understanding people who are underselling this usage. The Ekeler ankle issue doesn't even have to come into play to suggest you spend a sizable chunk of FAAB on this guy. I'd rather roster him than most of the RBs drafted in the last 5 rounds of your standard draft.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I just picked him up this AM for free. Hard to believe no-one bid on him. There is definite potential here even without an Ekeler injury.
