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How will CV affect the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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Seriously, thank you.
Shutout
Footballguy
Kind of back on the topic and related:. With the reports now that testing is getting delayed and logjammed, I think it's another side-reason why maybe all sports should stand down. With talk from sports leagues saying they will be testing players and support people multiple times a week, etc, I would think that takes away from others. I'd rather see everyday working people and their families be able to test and get results and keep people working and treating the virus vs. knowing Ryan Fitzpatrick is clean and can play QB 5-6 times a week.
Just seems like that time and effort reading tests would be better utilized on society at Large versus baseball, football, and basketball.
Just seems like that time and effort reading tests would be better utilized on society at Large versus baseball, football, and basketball.
Also - sneak peek at the new feature from our Dr. Jene Bramel on what to expect as players return.
Coronavirus and the NFL: What to Expect as Players Report
I do think it's important to manage expectations.
Coronavirus and the NFL: What to Expect as Players Report
I do think it's important to manage expectations.
RnR
Footballguy
MLB is doing their own testing. They converted their PED testing facility into a COVID testing facility for the time being.
Shutout
Footballguy
Good point and I understand that so that, in a sense, the MLB is not taking away from the general population. But what if they used those resources like Dyson, Ford, and other companies that stopped their normal operations and helped the general population? Maybe we could get the backlog under control since the MLB has some access to be able to test, etc.
facook
Footballguy
Yes. NFL is in the "normal" zone of positive tests/people tested at this point. Considering geographical/behavioral differences, seems like the players are right in line with the norm...but much less likely to suffer than the normal person.
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facook
Footballguy
Sorry, not the place.
I will just say: not every test taken by a professional athlete would just be paralleled to a common worker.
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rail
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
You act like you know everything that has been and has not been happening behind the scenes. I'm not sure that everything the league has been doing is publicized.
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
This headline might be slightly misleading. The GM stated this would be the maximum that could attend at Lambeau using current safety guidelines. However, there's no current plan to have fans at games. All Packer tickets are sold via season ticket packages, and I'm not aware of any announcement or plan to allocate games to ticket holders. It seems crazy to me to open and staff the stadium just to sell 12k tickets. Its not like the gameday atmosphere is going to be an awesome experience anyway.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I do? I thought I acted like I was reacting to the first official announcement by the NFL on testing was made on July 20th. And even then it was announced they were going to test for "TWO WEEKS".
If you have any other official links please post them. It's hard to imagine a ~$15 BILLION industry being run like this, I'll admit. So maybe I'm missing a lot. So if you do know what's going on behind the scenes and it's different than what is being reported I will absolutely believe you.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I take it all back. The goodell and the owners are doing a great job of handling the pandemic. The people in this thread defending them are spot on.
Why on earth would the players agree to lowering the salary cap in 2020?! That salary cap in 2020 is based on what the league earned in 2019.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Raiders owner says canceling the entire NFL season is still one of three options the league has for 2020
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-owner-says-canceling-the-entire-nfl-season-is-still-one-of-three-options-the-league-has-for-2020/
When Mark Davis is the smartest guy in the room you know you have a real MENSA group running the league.....
""I don't even know if it's safe to play. 'Uncertainty' is the word," Davis said. "Everything is up in the air with the virus and how it will affect our league and season."
Sounds reasonable to me. Let's all pitch in and get that guy a $10 haircut!
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-owner-says-canceling-the-entire-nfl-season-is-still-one-of-three-options-the-league-has-for-2020/
When Mark Davis is the smartest guy in the room you know you have a real MENSA group running the league.....
""I don't even know if it's safe to play. 'Uncertainty' is the word," Davis said. "Everything is up in the air with the virus and how it will affect our league and season."
Sounds reasonable to me. Let's all pitch in and get that guy a $10 haircut!
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I don't feel bad for the poor people that got duped by the Fyre Festival and I don't feel bad for the dopes that made PSL's a thing in the first place.
Honestly, I feel worse for the people that owned or worked at a sports bar across from the stadium than I feel for PSL owners.
renesauz
IBL Representative
while I appreciate the thought pattern, these leagues aren't going to be using THAT many tests when measured against all the tests run in the country, and, speaking personally, I feel like we can use the emotional boost having pro sports happening.
I still think the better idea would be to isolate as a team and play a somewhat shorter (10 game?) schedule, which would mean fewer tests necessary
renesauz
IBL Representative
Both sides being unreasonable here. Of course players would like to spread it out to 2030....by that point it won't affect even 5% of them! But spreading over just one or two years, especially immediately, would be just as unfair the other direction. Seems there's an easy middle ground...say 6 years with it slightly weighted towards the earlier years
irish eyes
Footballguy
I didn't think I'd ever say it, but I hope they do cancel the season. And not just because of covid. I'll leave it at that.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
If the salary cap ends up being $175 million next year, there will have to be a lot of contracts renegotiated or deep player cuts. Teams were planning on at least a cap of $198 million (if not higher). How teams account for a loss of $23 million in cap space will be interesting to observe and critique.
As a "for instance," here are the current cap situations as things stand now as far as current cap numbers for 2021 (per Spotrac):
Eagles - $273 million
Saints - $245 million
Falcons - $226 million
Chiefs - $203 million
Texans - $200 million
Philadelphia would have to shed $98 million worth of contracts to make it to $175 million. I can't even imagine how many players would need new deals or be released to get down to $175 million. They have 12 players with $10+ million cap hits for next year.
CR69
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Two MLB games postponed after Marlins' coronavirus outbreak
Haven't read through the whole thread, what's the NFL's plan for when this inevitably comes up in the fall?
Haven't read through the whole thread, what's the NFL's plan for when this inevitably comes up in the fall?
ericttspikes
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I know, that's why I'm wondering what the NFL will do if the virus sweeps through a team and half a roster tests positive on a Friday afternoon. In MLB there's already a precedent for postponing games (albeit not for this reason), surely the NFL is coming up with some kind of plan to deal with this since it's not as simple to just reschedule.
Doug B
Footballguy
Money or no money ... the NFL can't have a season without publicly letting COVID-19 burn through some portion of their rosters and some portion of other connected people (families, coaches, trainers, team staff, etc.). How does the league navigate the "You all are purposefully letting this happen to make a buck" PR hit?
I mean ... I know on the back side of this thing, viewers will come right back to the NFL. But in the immediate term -- don't the powers-that-be have a major image problem as they knowingly accept so much risk for so many people? Yes, yes ... I realize that fans accept concussions, severe musculoskeletal injuries, etc. In the current zeitgeist, however, COVID complications don't seem to fit into the same mental bucket as "ordinary" on-field risks.
I guess let's see if MLB starts having any blowback after half the Marlins team has come down with COVID-19.
I mean ... I know on the back side of this thing, viewers will come right back to the NFL. But in the immediate term -- don't the powers-that-be have a major image problem as they knowingly accept so much risk for so many people? Yes, yes ... I realize that fans accept concussions, severe musculoskeletal injuries, etc. In the current zeitgeist, however, COVID complications don't seem to fit into the same mental bucket as "ordinary" on-field risks.
I guess let's see if MLB starts having any blowback after half the Marlins team has come down with COVID-19.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
You don't have to test positive to be put on the reserve-Covid list????
Yeah, I am sure nobody is going to abuse that rule
Yeah, I am sure nobody is going to abuse that rule
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
This one is just kind of crazy to me. If everyone really thinks that every player is going to get it, then they are absolutely reckless having this season. What if 43 year old Tom Brady gets it and ends up on a ventilator? Can you imagine the fallout?
Doug B
Footballguy
That's the thing -- it seems that many feel deep down that "It's OK so long as nobody dies."
Really? Is that what this has come to? And again -- I know, I know ... concussions, pain-pill addiction, intentional head shots, musculoskeletal injuries ... yes, much harm has been accepted in the past, even the recent past. Still, that acceptance doesn't mean that there never will be a future point where the league pushes players over a cliff.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
waiting to happen.
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