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3 minutes ago, Football Jones said:

1.17: Kristian Fulton CB LSU

Big need with Byron Jones leaving via FA, but C.J. Henderson is who I had targeted as an ideal pick.

In the real world, I'd look to make out in a trade-down, but Fulton is certainly worth the investment here.

I actually think Fulton is a decent amount better than Henderson, he just isn't quite as athletic. He's a safer pick to me.

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Just now, travdogg said:

I actually think Fulton is a decent amount better than Henderson, he just isn't quite as athletic. He's a safer pick to me.

I agree he's a safer pick. I really like Henderson's playmaking ability, but Fulton could be better.

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With the 1.18 pick of the draft the Miami Dolphins select Jordan Love, QB, Utah State

Love can burn a year to sit and observe behind Fitzmagic while Wills develops into a franchise LT. The draft fell exactly how I expected. 
 

1.5 Jedrick Wills OT

1.18 Jordan Love, QB

@Biabreakable otc

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2 hours ago, Soulfly3 said:

Thomas was very high on both Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas as "day one" starters for the Browns at tackle. He also felt, like some other folks, that it was reasonable to question whether Mehki Becton's overall build might not be best suited for the zone blocking scheme the Browns are gonna employ. A scheme that calls for the tackles to pull out wide well over a dozen times a game, if not more.

I don’t get that as Becton moves well and has speed.

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7 minutes ago, JetMaxx said:

With the 1.18 pick of the draft the Miami Dolphins select Jordan Love, QB, Utah State

Love can burn a year to sit and observe behind Fitzmagic while Wills develops into a franchise LT. The draft fell exactly how I expected. 
 

1.5 Jedrick Wills OT

1.18 Jordan Love, QB

@Biabreakable otc

While I would love to make this pick I believe the Raiders are otc?

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The Raiders will make their pick in 20 minutes unless there's a trade offer

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2 hours ago, travdogg said:

Was really hoping an OT fell. Since one didn't, and we are going to go all in on Brady...

Tampa Bay selects: Henry Ruggs WR Alabama

Bruce Arians plays 3-WR sets roughly 70% of the time, almost 80% if you take out short yardage plays. Ruggs upgrades, possibly by a ton, over Perriman, and gives another big time RAC weapon. I think there is a misconception that Ruggs is a deep ball WR, he is that, but he's also a RAC guy too. He's not D-Jax, he's more Steve Smith. 

Evans and Ruggs outside, Godwin in the slot, each guys wins in a different way, and at every level. Its almost impossible to stop in theory.

Filthy.

If they don't re-sign Suh though I would expect Kinlaw here.

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11 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I don’t get that as Becton moves well and has speed.

Just guessing, but I think that was pre-combine info that SF quoted.

 

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8 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

While I would love to make this pick I believe the Raiders are otc?

My apologies

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With pick 1.19 the Raiders pick Kenneth Murray Oklahoma

Since Fulton and Jefferson are gone at CB I picked Murray.  Swift linebacker with sideline-to-sideline range as a run-and-chase linebacker.

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12 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

@Streetduck on deck for the Jagthes.

@JetMaxx in the hole for the Eagles.

Then the Vikings pick.

 

Huh? 

YOU @Biabreakable were on deck at 1.20 MINNESOTA VIKINGS

then @ZWK was in the hole at 1.21 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Then @Hairy Snowman , me, at 1.22 NEW ORLEANS  

Or am I missing something?

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4 minutes ago, Hairy Snowman said:

Huh? 

YOU @Biabreakable were on deck at 1.20 MINNESOTA VIKINGS

then @ZWK was in the hole at 1.21 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Then @Hairy Snowman , me, at 1.22 NEW ORLEANS  

Or am I missing something?

Yes the 2nd list in the thread is the draft order. The first list is not.

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12 minutes ago, elshagon said:

With pick 1.19 the Raiders pick Kenneth Murray Oklahoma

Since Fulton and Jefferson are gone at CB I picked Murray.  Swift linebacker with sideline-to-sideline range as a run-and-chase linebacker.

Not sure how they all fit together but Raiders signed Kwiatkowski and the top FA LB Littleton so this would completely revamp their entire LB group.

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12 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Not sure how they all fit together but Raiders signed Kwiatkowski and the top FA LB Littleton so this would completely revamp their entire LB group.

After Fulton and Jefferson went I tried trading down.  No takers so it was between Murray and Xavier McKinney at safety.  I could have gone either way.

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20 minutes ago, Hairy Snowman said:

Huh? 

YOU @Biabreakable were on deck at 1.20 MINNESOTA VIKINGS

then @ZWK was in the hole at 1.21 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Then @Hairy Snowman , me, at 1.22 NEW ORLEANS  

Or am I missing something?

Read the thread- I already made that mistake so you wouldn’t have to:)

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If we get through round 1 tonight I’ll pick it up in the morning around 8am est. Both the bengals and redskins are entertaining offers, and Duane Haskins is also available. 

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Pick 1.20 Jaguars select Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

Must replace Jalen Ramsey and Diggs has the size to defend larger receivers.

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Posted (edited)

With pick 1.21 The Philadelphia Eagles select Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama

This is the rare situation where desperate need meets best available.

Edited by JetMaxx

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6 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

Pick 1.22 The Minnesota Vikings select Josh Jones OT Houston.

I'd like it, but I don't think the team feels the need to replace Reiff. 

Vikings are in for a rough season.

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1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I'd like it, but I don't think the team feels the need to replace Reiff. 

Vikings are in for a rough season.

I dont think they get rid of Reiff either.

Jones can play guard year one. Moves to Tackle in his 2nd season when they do get rid of Reiff.

I could have gone corner I suppose, but I wanted to make BigJim happy.

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Are we going to do a 2nd round?

This has gone fairly well so far I think.

The Vikings would be willing to move down to the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd from this pick if someone makes me a good offer.

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Just now, Biabreakable said:

Are we going to do a 2nd round?

This has gone fairly well so far I think.

The Vikings would be willing to move down to the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd from this pick if someone makes me a good offer.

Yes. We'll go until it sputters out.

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1 hour ago, Biabreakable said:

I dont think they get rid of Reiff either.

Jones can play guard year one. Moves to Tackle in his 2nd season when they do get rid of Reiff.

I could have gone corner I suppose, but I wanted to make BigJim happy.

I would think they could move Reiff to Guard, and start Jones at Tackle.

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4 minutes ago, travdogg said:

I would think they could move Reiff to Guard, and start Jones at Tackle.

I suppose that is another option.

The Vikings released Josh Kline today and I do not want to see any more of Pat Elflien starting.

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3 hours ago, Grahamburn said:

Filthy.

If they don't re-sign Suh though I would expect Kinlaw here.

Kinlaw was the pick if Ruggs was gone. Couldn't pass up the idea of adding Ruggs to Godwin/Evans though.

Also there are still some really good FA DL left. In addition to Suh, Snacks is still out there, as is Shelby Harris, or Dontari Poe. With Barrett, JPP, and Vea, I'm not sure they need a major investment there. Kinlaw is special though, which I why traded up for him with Seattle. 

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7 hours ago, travdogg said:

Kinlaw was the pick if Ruggs was gone. Couldn't pass up the idea of adding Ruggs to Godwin/Evans though.

Also there are still some really good FA DL left. In addition to Suh, Snacks is still out there, as is Shelby Harris, or Dontari Poe. With Barrett, JPP, and Vea, I'm not sure they need a major investment there. Kinlaw is special though, which I why traded up for him with Seattle. 

Plus they could always trade Mike Evans for a past their prime RB with a bloated contract like Leveon Bell. 

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Also the Lions are shopping Darius Slay if any team wants to send an offer for a top notch CB.

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24 New Orleans Saints -  Justin Jefferson WR LSU

Easy pick for the Saints.  They could use help at CB, but with the run going in front of them on CBs, the easy pick was getting some one to run patterns in the slot to take the pressure off Michael Thomas.  The lack of a presence in the slot was evident once Kamara got hurt.  This puts the offense back on track.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Plus they could always trade Mike Evans for a past their prime RB with a bloated contract like Leveon Bell. 

Is that an offer to the Jets?

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14 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Is that an offer to the Jets?

Depends, is Bill O’Brien running Tampa now?

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

Plus they could always trade Mike Evans for a past their prime RB with a bloated contract like Leveon Bell. 

This is why free agency is so much fun to me.  All these guys are getting huge contracts they'll never live up to and then they're back on the market in two years.  It's hilarious. 

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2 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Also the Lions are shopping Darius Slay if any team wants to send an offer for a top notch CB.

Gone.

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3 minutes ago, daveR said:

Gone.

I work fast. 

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Interesting. Putting eggs into the "get to the QB before our JV backfield is exposed" basket?

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1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Interesting. Putting eggs into the "get to the QB before our JV backfield is exposed" basket?

For now.

I maybe should have taken Jefferson with the 22 pick.

I think the Vikings are rebuilding so I want to focus on trenches.

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1 minute ago, Biabreakable said:

For now.

I maybe should have taken Jefferson with the 22 pick.

I think the Vikings are rebuilding so I want to focus on trenches.

Outside of Eagan, I think that's obvious.

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3 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Plus they could always trade Mike Evans for a past their prime RB with a bloated contract like Leveon Bell. 

I actually thought about making an offer for Bell. It was the 14 for Bell and the 11. But I figured that was probably a little too much roster moving for a mock. 

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5 minutes ago, travdogg said:

I actually thought about making an offer for Bell. It was the 14 for Bell and the 11. But I figured that was probably a little too much roster moving for a mock. 

Would the Jets do that?  He has a monster cap hit.  Just taking on that contract from them is probably worth a second round pick. 

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16 minutes ago, Grahamburn said:

Would the Jets do that?  He has a monster cap hit.  Just taking on that contract from them is probably worth a second round pick. 

No, they would not. They can get out of his contract after this season and they have not even come close to using the cap space they have available to them for this season. They have been working on improving the o-line and will do so via draft as well. They do need some weapons on offense so he'll get another chance this season hopefully with a better line and a healthy Darnold all year instead of a third string QB. 

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