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Former staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault (1 Viewer)

No we're completely lost without a credible candidate. It's a horrible state of affairs. 
I get that.  How about the far lesser of two evils?  You know the one's who been in public service their whole life with zero accusations before this decades old one, versus the known philander, buddy of Epstein, payer off of porn chicks, and admitted sexual assualter? 

 
Of course he will survive it. 

If you guys have trouble with this story and you can’t vote for Biden- well that’s up to you. But if you honestly believe this story will result in his stepping down as a nominee- that’s not gonna happen. Or if you think this story will in some way seriously hurt Biden’s chances- that’s delusional as well IMO. 

In the real world right now, Hillary Clinton is endorsing Joe Biden. Biden is spending his time tweeting about coronavirus testing and differences between him and Trump on that issue, which will brings the ONLY issue that matters to folks in the fall. 

This story will continue to be internet fodder. But in the real world it won’t make the slightest bit of difference. 
I would hope that some will soon withdraw their endorsements.

 
Instead of spending all this energy defending him and/or saying because Trump did it too, why not use that energy to FIND SOMEONE BETTER?

Still plenty of time.

DNC has the legal right to remove him and replace him with anyone they want when he becomes the official nominee.   I'd put a grand on the bet now if I could find it.
Even if they have the right to do that, it won't happen as it would not only overturn the will of the primary voters, but also go against current polls that show that among Democrats. Biden is still the popular choice to beat Trump.

 
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Even if they have the right to do that right, it won't happen as it would not only overturn the will of the primary voters, but also go against current polls that show that among Democrats. Biden is still the popular choice to beat Trump.
they considered it when Hillary had health issues in 2016.

 
I'm a member of a club of real life Independents that have met roughly once a month for almost 3 years now. I can assure you this Biden thing is being taken very seriously. 
What shocks me is all the Kavanaugh thread guys coming to his defense. It’s things like that that make it hard as an Independent to ever take their side. 

 
What shocks me is all the Kavanaugh thread guys coming to his defense. It’s things like that that make it hard as an Independent to ever take their side. 
This is true. The Kavanaugh thing did not go well for Democrats. Neither did the impeachment debacle. 
 

Now in all fairness Trump has had his share of cringe moments as well. Anytime he tussles with a vet especially. The McCain thing still hurts. Anytime he says anything nice about Kim Jong is hard to stomach. 

 
This is true. The Kavanaugh thing did not go well for Democrats. Neither did the impeachment debacle. 
 

Now in all fairness Trump has had his share of cringe moments as well. Anytime he tussles with a vet especially. The McCain thing still hurts. Anytime he says anything nice about Kim Jong is hard to stomach. 
Impeachment was not a debacle. Pelosi and House Democrats knew he would never be convicted in the Republican controlled Senate, however they went ahead anyway, because it was the right thing to do from an historical perspective (and if you can't impeach a President for what Trump did, what could any President be impeached for?)

 
Drop out because out of the blue after decades someone accuses him of something that's 100% out of character?  You've got to be kidding me. 

Besides, the standard of conduct for people seeking office has been set by Trump.  That's the litmus test, are the assault charges more numerous, believable, and is there tape ADMITTING to sexual assault?  If not, then the voters decide. 
It's not out of character for him at all.  He touches women & young children in inappropriate ways.  In 2008 Cockburn wrote that Biden made unwelcome sexual advances on another senator's aide, in the week after his first wife was killed in a car crash.  Then there was his handling of the Anita Hill hearings.  The way he yelled at Warren in one of the debates was pretty unbecoming too.  I know we're a predominantly male fantasy football messageboard, but he honestly comes across like a chauvinist jerk to me.  I think you're a bad judge of character if you can't see that.  

One of the Democrats' most important voting blocs is women voters.  Are they seriously going to make a complete joke out of their proclaimed respect for women, by asking them to vote for a credibly accused rapist?  It's unconscionable.  

 
Impeachment was not a debacle. Pelosi and House Democrats knew he would never be convicted in the Republican controlled Senate, however they went ahead anyway, because it was the right thing to do from an historical perspective (and if you can't impeach a President for what Trump did, what could any President be impeached for?)
Just giving my perspective of how it was viewed from the middle. Ya know, the group that will decide who wins. 

 
It's not out of character for him at all.  He touches women & young children in inappropriate ways.  In 2008 Cockburn wrote that Biden made unwelcome sexual advances on another senator's aide, in the week after his first wife was killed in a car crash.  Then there was his handling of the Anita Hill hearings.  The way he yelled at Warren in one of the debates was pretty unbecoming too.  I know we're a predominantly male fantasy football messageboard, but he honestly comes across like a chauvinist jerk to me.  I think you're a bad judge of character if you can't see that.  

One of the Democrats' most important voting blocs is women voters.  Are they seriously going to make a complete joke out of their proclaimed respect for women, by asking them to vote for a credibly accused rapist?  It's unconscionable.  
Cockburn from Counterpunch, that unbiased publication?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03/09/joe-biden-is-demented-racist-shark-food/

Joe Biden is Demented Racist Shark Food

[...]

 
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So if Joe Biden comes out and says "this did not happen", what then?  Lets say he says he recognizes her from recent events, but cannot say for sure if he remembers her from the 90's.

Looking for a response from Democrats that don't have a Bernie Sanders agenda.

 
Oh I really hope the right decides to make this the focus of their campaign against Biden.

The rebuttal ads write themselves, ol' empathetic Joe just needs to continue to deny since he's innocent, and the focus goes off his occasional mental stumbles.

Plus he's picking a gal VP, surely no one who sexually assaults women would pick a gal VP.  As evidence I present Trump.  Although Mike Pence's nauseating fawning is certainly very high in estrogen. 

 
Oh I really hope the right decides to make this the focus of their campaign against Biden.

The rebuttal ads write themselves, ol' empathetic Joe just needs to continue to deny since he's innocent, and the focus goes off his occasional mental stumbles.

Plus he's picking a gal VP, surely no one who sexually assaults women would pick a gal VP.  As evidence I present Trump.  Although Mike Pence's nauseating fawning is certainly very high in estrogen. 
Man you’re about as partisan as anyone on this board. Wow. Just no attempt at objectivity. 

 
Man you’re about as partisan as anyone on this board. Wow. Just no attempt at objectivity. 
Yes I am very partisan for sure.  But stepping back, how in the world does it make sense to punish Biden for one out of the blue accuser while the admitted sexual abuser Trump skates?  It is unfortunate that these are our two choices, but the choices they are. 

I find Biden's proclamation of innocence much more believable than Trump's.  Trump's true feelings came out on that Access Hollywood tape.  Trump palled around with Epstein.

 
Mike Memoli @mikememoli

Notable: @SenGillibrand asked today on a conference call about Tara Reade allegations of assault by @JoeBiden. She says, “I stand by Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women and he has vehemently denied this allegation.” Per @JulieNBCNews //

Al Franken probably rolling in his pajamas 

 
Mike Memoli @mikememoli

Notable: @SenGillibrand asked today on a conference call about Tara Reade allegations of assault by @JoeBiden. She says, “I stand by Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women and he has vehemently denied this allegation.” Per @JulieNBCNews //

Al Franken probably rolling in his pajamas 
It was a harsh lesson, but Sen. Gillibrand learned it nonetheless.

 
Oh I really hope the right decides to make this the focus of their campaign against Biden.

The rebuttal ads write themselves, ol' empathetic Joe just needs to continue to deny since he's innocent, and the focus goes off his occasional mental stumbles.

Plus he's picking a gal VP, surely no one who sexually assaults women would pick a gal VP.  As evidence I present Trump.  Although Mike Pence's nauseating fawning is certainly very high in estrogen. 
In light of current events, his best option is Klobuchar.  If he selects Harris, the jokes will just write themselves.  

 
In light of current events, his best option is Klobuchar.  If he selects Harris, the jokes will just write themselves.  
It's going to be Stacey Adams.  She'll be a brilliant choice.

If he could convince Michelle to run, Trump would be looking at a Mondale'esc wipeout.  Maybe they're still trying to convince her. 

 
The runner up to Governor of Georgia?   :lmao:  
She checks all the boxes.  She's bright, well educated, great speaker, woman, great communicator, private and public success.

She'd destroy Pence in a debate and came within a whisker of winning GA.  She might put Biden over the top there. 

 
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All allegations of sexual misconduct should be taken seriously. I would hope that if, particularly after the metoo movement, Biden wouldn't have legitimate skeletons in his closet.  That being said, If it is Joe Biden versus Donald Trump in Nov.  I"m voting Biden as A) I believe he's the better candidate and better for the country and B) I don't believe that Donald Trump has moral high ground in this.  The man has admitted to assaulting women.  

 
Mike Memoli @mikememoli

Notable: @SenGillibrand asked today on a conference call about Tara Reade allegations of assault by @JoeBiden. She says, “I stand by Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women and he has vehemently denied this allegation.” Per @JulieNBCNews //

Al Franken probably rolling in his pajamas 
Yep the first thing I thought about when I read this was poor Stuart Smalley. 

 
Actually they never did seriously consider it, although "reliable" sources like Breitbart and Daily Caller were running with that story .
I'm someone who believes Ford.  I generally believe women unless there is a compelling reason not to.  I think she is telling the truth and Biden is a creep and likely sexual assaulter.  But, as I said, credible allegations of sexaul assualt are no longer disqualifying from running for President.  Thanks to....guess who?  The guy who had (and still has) two dozen of them when he ran for President.

 
You forgot to mention you were an independent here. But no worries, if you mention it twice in your next post you’ll stick to your average. 
This right here is why many won’t post in this forum. And why I’ve been a lurker up until today and I probably should have kept it that way. 

 
This is true. The Kavanaugh thing did not go well for Democrats. Neither did the impeachment debacle. 
 

Now in all fairness Trump has had his share of cringe moments as well. Anytime he tussles with a vet especially. The McCain thing still hurts. Anytime he says anything nice about Kim Jong is hard to stomach. 
I find your perspective as an independent on both the Kavanagh and impeachment thing interesting.  I agree they were debacles, but for completely opposite reasons that you do I suspect.  The senate completely embarrassed itself in the total abdication of their duty and fealty to Trump.  I mean, many of them admitted that Trump did what he was being accused of (even Lindsay).  They just didn't want to relinquish power.  Trump's "act" was much worse than Nixon's.  

Anyway, I appreciate you sharing your view from the middle. 

 
This right here is why many won’t post in this forum. And why I’ve been a lurker up until today and I probably should have kept it that way. 
Sorry but when you mention how much of an independent you are in every post, while calling the impeachment a “debacle” (the vast majority of independents don’t feel that way, BTW) it gets a little suspicious. 

 

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