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1 hour ago, squistion said:

I'll be here all week, folks...

Lucky us.

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1 hour ago, DocHolliday said:

Stones and Who fill this list.  

Well those are two pretty great albums. Honestly I could have added more songs from each. 

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26 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Well those are two pretty great albums. Honestly I could have added more songs from each. 

nah...let's have some more females sing pop ballads.

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23 minutes ago, BassNBrew said:

nah...let's have some more females sing pop ballads.

I could have added more songs from Tapestry and Blue as well. 1971 was incredible. 

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17 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I feel this is below your normal effort...perhaps the key was wrong for you? 

I didn't think you were fan! This was an early recording, a few years back. I like it.

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5 hours ago, Nipsey said:

I didn't think you were fan! This was an early recording, a few years back. I like it.

I am a fan; I enjoy your efforts. But you sound a little drunk here. 

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9 hours ago, DocHolliday said:

Stones and Who fill this list.  

Love the stones but never was much a fan of The Who.  Other than that I'm really liking this list.  Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Tim.  

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57 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I am a fan; I enjoy your efforts. But you sound a little drunk here. 

That's kind of what we've been thinking about some of your selections here.

 

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10. David Bowie “Life On Mars?” (from Hunky Dory)

https://youtu.be/AZKcl4-tcuo

The link takes you to an actual video that was produced in 1973. That’s got to be one of the earliest videos, I would think. I’ll have to look that up. 

“Life On Mars?” Is Bowie’s masterpiece. I believe @Anarchy99 ranked it in his thread as the best song of the Hunky Dory/Ziggy Stardust era, and I would probably agree with this and more: IMO, it’s his best song ever. 

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2 minutes ago, timschochet said:

10. David Bowie “Life On Mars?” (from Hunky Dory)

https://youtu.be/AZKcl4-tcuo

The link takes you to an actual video that was produced in 1973. That’s got to be one of the earliest videos, I would think. I’ll have to look that up. 

“Life On Mars?” Is Bowie’s masterpiece. I believe @Anarchy99 ranked it in his thread as the best song of the Hunky Dory/Ziggy Stardust era, and I would probably agree with this and more: IMO, it’s his best song ever. 

Directed by Mick Rock. The man who shot the 70s. Ziggy Stardust, Bohemian Rhapsody, Rocky Horror - has a ton of iconic still photos.

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So I looked it up: “Life On Mars?” was one of 4 promotional films of Bowie songs made in 1973- the other 3 were “John, I’m Only Dancing”, “The Jean Genie”, and “Space Oddity”, all directed by Mick Rock, who went on to direct the famous “Bohemian Rhapsody” video. While the Bowie ones were not actually the first promotional videos (Tony Bennett back in the 50s seems to have a claim to this) they were pretty early for the genre and quite influential. 

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1 hour ago, timschochet said:

10. David Bowie “Life On Mars?” (from Hunky Dory)

https://youtu.be/AZKcl4-tcuo

The link takes you to an actual video that was produced in 1973. That’s got to be one of the earliest videos, I would think. I’ll have to look that up. 

“Life On Mars?” Is Bowie’s masterpiece. I believe @Anarchy99 ranked it in his thread as the best song of the Hunky Dory/Ziggy Stardust era, and I would probably agree with this and more: IMO, it’s his best song ever. 

Yeah, after seeing this list it doesn't surprise me you would think that, but I digress...

FYI, videos were produced by record labels to promote artists since the early 60s. 

An example from 1965, Concrete and Clay by UK group Unit 4 plus 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zstZkoGyZS4

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Life On Mars? is definitely a great song. Top 10 for the year sounds about right. 

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15 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, after seeing this list that doesn't surprise that you would think that, but I digress...

FYI. videos were produced by record labels to promote their artists since the early 60s. 

An example from 1965 Concrete and Clay by UK group Unit 4 plus 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zstZkoGyZS4

Good stuff squistion.   

I knew vids came out prior to 73 but not as far back as early 60s other than videos I've seen directly tied to movies.

35 minutes ago, timschochet said:

“Life On Mars?” Is Bowie’s masterpiece.

In the mid 80s I was oblivious to anything other than his popular singles till I met a GF who was on a huge Aladdin Sane binge.  

I don't see Life On Mars as a masterpiece.  Looks and feels like a derivative of Space Oddity and an over-produced over-theatrical transition towards Ziggy.  

He put out his video of Space Oddity in 72, a year prior to the one you shared.

David Bowie – Space Oddity (Official Video)

I consider that to be his signature tune and feel he was chasing that success with songs of similar themes.  My take but YMMV and that's fine.

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1 hour ago, timschochet said:

10. David Bowie “Life On Mars?” (from Hunky Dory)

https://youtu.be/AZKcl4-tcuo

The link takes you to an actual video that was produced in 1973. That’s got to be one of the earliest videos, I would think. I’ll have to look that up. 

“Life On Mars?” Is Bowie’s masterpiece. I believe @Anarchy99 ranked it in his thread as the best song of the Hunky Dory/Ziggy Stardust era, and I would probably agree with this and more: IMO, it’s his best song ever. 

Seriously would have preferred listening and listening to this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dc8OOLXVZU

 

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19 minutes ago, Bracie Smathers said:

Good stuff squistion.   

I knew vids came out prior to 73 but not as far back as early 60s other than videos I've seen directly tied to movies.

In the mid 80s I was oblivious to anything other than his popular singles till I met a GF who was on a huge Aladdin Sane binge.  

I don't see Life On Mars as a masterpiece.  Looks and feels like a derivative of Space Oddity and an over-produced over-theatrical transition towards Ziggy.  

He put out his video of Space Oddity in 72, a year prior to the one you shared.

David Bowie – Space Oddity (Official Video)

I consider that to be his signature tune and feel he was chasing that success with songs of similar themes.  My take but YMMV and that's fine.

It’s funny, I also see the two songs as linked (and I love Space Oddity) but while you see that as his signature and Life On Mars as derivative, I see Soace Oddity as a bit more raw and Life On Mars as a more complete achievement. I would guess more people agree with you on this, though I don’t know. 

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I should clarify: when I wrote that the two songs are linked, I meant musically. They’re not linked lyrically, despite the space themes in the titles. Space Oddity is a narrative song about an astronaut, while Life On Mars? is a cultural commentary without any story. 

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Just now, timschochet said:

You’re certainly welcome to make your own list and I promise you that if you do so I will read it eagerly and offer commentary. 

Are you going to let me borrow your intern to type it up and he's finished with your list?

https://giphy.com/gifs/JgRMIPzWPgyIw/html5

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Thank you for doing this Tim.  While many won't agree with your rankings you're doing a great job.  I'm probably in the minority here but I seriously hope we're done with David Bowie, just not my cup of tea.  Keep up the good work.

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35 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I should clarify: when I wrote that the two songs are linked, I meant musically. They’re not linked lyrically, despite the space themes in the titles. Space Oddity is a narrative song about an astronaut, while Life On Mars? is a cultural commentary without any story. 

Was listening to Ricky Gervais tell a story on Conan’s podcast. David Bowie had a role on Extras, where it was scripted that he would spontaneously sing an insulting song about Gervais’ character. When Gervais told Bowie what he had in mind, he suggests Bowie write something in the vein of Life on Mars. Bowie’s retort was, “No problem, I’ll just whip up another Life on Mars.” Implied is that it is the masterpiece that it is. 

Bowie and Gervais remained close friends. 

Here is the clip. It’s very funny. “Little fat man who sold his soul... little fat man, who sold his dream...”

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Lost count of the tracks off Sticky Fingers, but I'm guessing I'd have 6-7 on my own list for 1971.

And there'd be at least 10 songs off Exile for 1972.  Probably my favorite album.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Here is the clip. It’s very funny. “Little fat man who sold his soul... little fat man, who sold his dream...”

I love that clip.  Who writes something where there the one who gets absolutely trashed like that?

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As far as videos go, I remember some Beatles ones in the mid 60s, and they were not the first. Sometimes instead of a cartoon,  movie theaters would place one in front of a movie.

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9. Elton John “Tiny Dancer” (from Madman Across the Water

https://youtu.be/aqlGlaNlcWE

Turns out @wikkidpissah’s fear was correct; the top ten would indeed include an Almost Famous moment! 
Though it’s the first song on Elton’s 1971 album, “Tiny Dancer” wasn’t released as a single until 1972 and it did poorly (#41 Billboard), maybe because it’s 6 minute length was edited for radio play. Only in later years when AOR featured its full length did it become recognized as an all time classic. While the song is ostensibly about Taupin’s wife (who really was the band’s seamstress), it’s also about the 1970 tour of Los Angeles that made Elton John a star, and the women they met there. The song has a sweet endearing quality which Cameron Crowe recognized, even if Wikkid assures us that the legendary bus scene is pure fantasy. So what? The fantasy is often what matters. 

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2 minutes ago, timschochet said:

9. Elton John “Tiny Dancer” (from Madman Across the Water

https://youtu.be/aqlGlaNlcWE

Turns out @wikkidpissah’s fear was correct; the top ten would indeed include an Almost Famous moment! 
Though it’s the first song on Elton’s 1971 album, “Tiny Dancer” wasn’t released as a single until 1972 and it did poorly (#41 Billboard), maybe because it’s 6 minute length was edited for radio play. Only in later years when AOR featured its full length did it become recognized as an all time classic. While the song is ostensibly about Taupin’s wife (who really was the band’s seamstress), it’s also about the 1970 tour of Los Angeles that made Elton John a star, and the women they met there. The song has a sweet endearing quality which Cameron Crowe recognized, even if Wikkid assures us that the legendary bus scene is pure fantasy. So what? The fantasy is often what matters. 

I like the song. I've heard it too many times to ever proactively play it again.

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52 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Bowie and Gervais remained close friends. 

They should have because Ricky in the mid-80s was David's doppelganger. 

Go to the 1:00 minute mark so see a young/thin Ricky Gervais when he was in a rock band.  You won't believe its the same dude.

Ricky Gervais is a "Frustrated, Failed Musician" - The Graham Norton Show

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Mojo said:

It's probably time to put your Osmonds fetish to rest....

Never....

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6 minutes ago, timschochet said:

The song has a sweet endearing quality which Cameron Crowe recognized, even if Wikkid assures us that the legendary bus scene

Ribbed and full-length for wikkid's viewing pleasure.  

Almost Famous - Tiny Dancer

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yeah, '71 was the year i was held at knifepoint on a deserted road in western Wyoming while the driver who'd picked me up pulled his #### out. a lapse of his attention allowed me to get the metal mailbox flag from the outside pocket of my haversack, bring it across his nose, pound him to unconsciousness & slice his face to remind him not to do that anymore. i thereupon walked the last 85 miles to Utah, certain that the entire state was looking for my sobbing 16yo ###. had the "predatory hitchhiker" microfiche printout of the newspaper story on my fridge for years and the biggest party i ever threw was on the day the staute of limitations ran out on it. yeah, 1971 was a sweet, endearing year with a fantasy quality....

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5 hours ago, timschochet said:

I am a fan; I enjoy your efforts. But you sound a little drunk here. 

I'm drunk in all of them.

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9 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

yeah, '71 was the year i was held at knifepoint on a deserted road in western Wyoming while the driver who'd picked me up pulled his #### out. a lapse of his attention allowed me to get the metal mailbox flag from the outside pocket of my haversack, bring it across his nose, pound him to unconsciousness & slice his face to remind him not to do that anymore. i thereupon walked the last 85 miles to Utah, certain that the entire state was looking for my sobbing 16yo ###. had the "predatory hitchhiker" microfiche printout of the newspaper story on my fridge for years and the biggest party i ever threw was on the day the staute of limitations ran out on it. yeah, 1971 was a sweet, endearing year with a fantasy quality....

wait a second...you had a haversack? 

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10 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

yeah, '71 was the year i was held at knifepoint on a deserted road in western Wyoming while the driver who'd picked me up pulled his #### out. a lapse of his attention allowed me to get the metal mailbox flag from the outside pocket of my haversack, bring it across his nose, pound him to unconsciousness & slice his face to remind him not to do that anymore. i thereupon walked the last 85 miles to Utah, certain that the entire state was looking for my sobbing 16yo ###. had the "predatory hitchhiker" microfiche printout of the newspaper story on my fridge for years and the biggest party i ever threw was on the day the staute of limitations ran out on it. yeah, 1971 was a sweet, endearing year with a fantasy quality....

Oh man that’s awful

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5 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

wait a second...you had a haversack? 

BSofA issue, baby! Knew them pockets would come in handy...

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2 minutes ago, timschochet said:

That was better. You reached for the high note but you made it. 

Thanks, Simon.

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25 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

I like the song. I've heard it too many times to ever proactively play it again.

this x infinity :hifive:

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8 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

yeah, '71 was the year i was held at knifepoint on a deserted road in western Wyoming while the driver who'd picked me up pulled his #### out. a lapse of his attention allowed me to get the metal mailbox flag from the outside pocket of my haversack, bring it across his nose, pound him to unconsciousness & slice his face to remind him not to do that anymore. i thereupon walked the last 85 miles to Utah, certain that the entire state was looking for my sobbing 16yo ###. had the "predatory hitchhiker" microfiche printout of the newspaper story on my fridge for years and the biggest party i ever threw was on the day the staute of limitations ran out on it. yeah, 1971 was a sweet, endearing year with a fantasy quality....

Dude. 

Age 23, I Had a narrow escape in Western Wyoming at a deserted rest stop but got away without violence.  Huge guy in a wife beater was coming in while I was leaving the rest room.  Long story short, he kept following me back to my car which was loaded with camping gear and my bike as I was coming back from a bicycle tour of the Canadian Rockies.  

I stopped and looked him and he 'tentatively' looked into my vehicle and asked if I was alone.

Have no clue where it came from but I IMMEDIATELY said that my brother and friend were in the car and gestured for him to be quiet so as not to wake them up.

Got to my car and peeled out of there and drove for hundreds of miles before stopping even though before that adrenaline rush I was exhausted. 

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5 minutes ago, Bracie Smathers said:

Dude. 

Age 23, I Had a narrow escape in Western Wyoming at a deserted rest stop but got away without violence.  Huge guy in a wife beater was coming in while I was leaving the rest room.  Long story short, he kept following me back to my car which was loaded with camping gear and my bike as I was coming back from a bicycle tour of the Canadian Rockies.  

I stopped and looked him and he 'tentatively' looked into my vehicle and asked if I was alone.

Have no clue where it came from but I IMMEDIATELY said that my brother and friend were in the car and gestured for him to be quiet so as not to wake them up.

Got to my car and peeled out of there and drove for hundreds of miles before stopping even though before that adrenaline rush I was exhausted. 

let's write a rock opera together - the Deliverance West Motor Inn. we can call ourselves Little America

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22 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

yeah, '71 was the year i was held at knifepoint on a deserted road in western Wyoming while the driver who'd picked me up pulled his #### out. a lapse of his attention allowed me to get the metal mailbox flag from the outside pocket of my haversack, bring it across his nose, pound him to unconsciousness & slice his face to remind him not to do that anymore. i thereupon walked the last 85 miles to Utah, certain that the entire state was looking for my sobbing 16yo ###. had the "predatory hitchhiker" microfiche printout of the newspaper story on my fridge for years and the biggest party i ever threw was on the day the staute of limitations ran out on it. yeah, 1971 was a sweet, endearing year with a fantasy quality....

I'm having a hard time following this.  You're roadside with one dude holding you knife point and the driver you were riding with pulled his johnson out.  I assumed you pounded the guy with the knife, but it kinda of reads like you beat up the guy with his #### out.

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