rockaction
Footballguy
I think someone upthread used it and you responded subconsciously to a train of thought.
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Does seeing this make you upset (OCMD and Lake of the Ozark) (1 Viewer)
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bucksoh
Footballguy
In Ohio and the hospital I work for if you have any symptoms of CV, your counted as having cv. Same for deaths even though they aren't testing them. If this is going on here you can bet that it happening a lot. Said same thing when we were placing CV patients in nursing homes, and also when I said suicides and overdoses have exploded I was laughed at but I have been right.
bucksoh
Footballguy
I don't think you know what memorial day is about, look it up then reflect accordingly.
NutterButter
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
bucksoh
Footballguy
Actually educated on the use of masks, and what people are wearing will not stop the spread of CV . This goes for social distancing also. The media is saying you're protecting others,. but most don't wear n95 masks properly and the rest wear cloth or ineffectual face masks when they have been proven ineffective.bigmarc27 said:
Capella
Footballguy
The count of the dead started in March. I don’t care about your anecdotal example that probably isn’t true to begin with.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am well aware what Memorial Day is about. People who, when called to risk their life to protect the country, made the ultimate sacrifice. That’s the opposite of “every one is responsible for their own safety“. I am not saying we should open up or stay shut in or whatever. I am saying when it comes to big things like public health, national defense, etc. we can’t just let everyone fend for themselves. These problems can only really be tackled together.
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bucksoh
Footballguy
TLEF316
Footballguy
Doesn't bother me at all, because I knew it would happen.
People are idiots and I knew a HUGE chunk of them would take a "cautious reopening" (with masks strongly suggested and social distancing still stressed) as the green light to do whatever they wanted. Woo HOO summer!!!
No, the young people probably won't get seriously sick.(or even sick at all) I'm relatively young and healthy, so I'm not likely to be directly affected either. But if this thing surges again, (which I fully believe it will) its going to April all over again. And that will mean not being able (or a delay in being able to) to do things I want to do, see people I want to see (my parents and grandparents are older, and thus high risk) etc.
So that bothers me, but considering I 100% expected this to happen, the actual images aren't really upsetting.
People are idiots and I knew a HUGE chunk of them would take a "cautious reopening" (with masks strongly suggested and social distancing still stressed) as the green light to do whatever they wanted. Woo HOO summer!!!
No, the young people probably won't get seriously sick.(or even sick at all) I'm relatively young and healthy, so I'm not likely to be directly affected either. But if this thing surges again, (which I fully believe it will) its going to April all over again. And that will mean not being able (or a delay in being able to) to do things I want to do, see people I want to see (my parents and grandparents are older, and thus high risk) etc.
So that bothers me, but considering I 100% expected this to happen, the actual images aren't really upsetting.
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AcerFC
Footballguy
Ill take multiple sources for this. Because I have not seen anything that reflects what you just wrote.
bucksoh
Footballguy
If you're concerned about public health then stay home. The only way to get through flu season is to keep doing things that you regularly do. Anything else and your taking away everything every soldier has fought for.
Capella
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I’m sure the soldiers who serve and have served had many different reasons for why they sacrificed for the Country and many varying opinions on the current situation. You don’t get to speak for all of them.
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bucksoh
Footballguy
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/new-study-questions-the-effectiveness-of-masks-against-sars-cov-2&ved=2ahUKEwjQ3MTd6s3pAhWAj3IEHS5RAuMQFjACegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw33zO_QU97Cmv5_KlZlTr7d&cshid=1590369161904,.
If you wanna know if a mask is effective place mask on head and spray air freshener,. If you can smell air freshener it isn't effective.
No you do this for a n95 and if you're wearing it effectively you won't smell the air freshener.
bucksoh
Footballguy
No actually I responded first saying "hardly anyone healthy is dying from this" but continue on with your lies.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. It's one of those rare occasions where acting in concert is a whole lot better than decentralized decisions, depending of course, on scale.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Absolutely, my grandmother with Alzheimer’s is in a nursing home and I get updates through my mom every day...
Here is today:
I want to assure you that we are doing everything in our control to protect your loved ones from acquiring the Coronavirus. We are testing residents daily and isolating and treating the ones that test positive. As of 05/24/2020, we have
COVID Positive Cases
70 Residents (Note: Results are cumulative)
62 Active Cases
1 Resident Recovered
8 Resident Deaths
23 Staff Members (Note: Results are cumulative)
1 Staff Member Recovered
Compare that to one month ago:
I want to assure you that we are doing everything in our control to protect your loved ones from acquiring the Coronavirus. We are testing patients daily and isolating and treating the ones that test positive. Unfortunately, as of 04/24/2020, we have
9 Patients and 1 staff member
bucksoh
Footballguy
I'm not speaking for them, but because of their sacrifice is the reason for a message board. Where people can have their own opinion. And that is what your trying to take away is people's opinions and my opinion. And it is disrespectful.
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bigmarc27
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bucksoh
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The only part that really angers me are the people having tantrums at stores that force them to wear a mask or the videos of people at the Ozarks, elsewhere coughing on others either as a threat or a joke mocking the disease. That’s a pretty crappy and reckless approach.
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
Looks correct to me:
“In psychology a person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term "victim complex", desires the feeling of being a martyr for their own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it either feeds a psychological need or a desire to avoid responsibility.”
To be fair, I intended on using a stronger word but I’m trying to keep my username from having to go on an unwanted vacation.
bucksoh
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bucksoh
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
Ahhh, the Penn State rivals forum, where people expose all of the MEDIA’S LIES!!
If there’s one group of people on earth I trust to not stick their head in the sand in the face of overwhelming evidence and think everything is just aok, it’s Penn State fans.
bucksoh
Footballguy
Well you people didn't believe any of the antibody studies from Stanford, USC, NYC, Germany, Oxford. Who will you people believe China the ones who put us in this mess?
This is wrong, wrong, wrong, with a shred of truth thrown in to make it not completely embarrassing.
It is true that only n95 masks will effectively stop the CV if the droplets are in the air in YOUR breathing zone. However, what other masks/face coverings will do is significantly reduce the radius around you that YOU can expose other people if you have the CV. If you cough with no face covering, your circle of potential infection is about 6 feet. If you're wearing a face covering, that drops to about six inches.
One of the big factors in some of the Asian countries controlling the spread so effectively is their normal and accepted practice of wearing face coverings when they're out.
bucksoh
Footballguy
Once again your wrong, even n95 does not completely keep out CV. There is still a 5 % chance that you can catch it. What is embarrassing is acting liking Asian countries have controlled the spread of CV. Which they haven't. And there is no way to ever know because of the countries oppression in which they live in. Stop with the lies.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
You understand that there are more countries in Asia than just “Chy-nuh” right, and that they aren’t all under oppressive communist regimes.
belljr
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bucksoh
Footballguy
Yes I realize that but the reason why their death rates are so low is because you tell me? I already know.
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
It did make National News: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/24/daytona-beach-shooting-wounds-least-5-people/5252504002/
Also, no one died. People get shot all the time so if everyone survives I don’t know how newsworthy it is, even Vice Presidents do it.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
At this point I'm just looking at my family. They are all staying safe. That's all I need to know. These other people, well it's sad that they may be jepardising others but you can't control that. So it becomes look out for your own.
TheWinz
Footballguy
The reason I asked is because Missouri is doing a great job of containing the spread.
81 of the 114 counties have no reported deaths (71%)
19 of the 114 counties have 1 reported death (17%)
Just take a look at this map - http://mophep.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapSeries/index.html?appid=8e01a5d8d8bd4b4f85add006f9e14a9d
I think it's unwise, what these people are doing, but it's also not unexpected. They're flinging caution to the wind after a quarantine that can best be described as "optional," and they decided their own selfish desires outweigh attempting to continue to curb the spread of Covid 19. So in 2 weeks, there's a good chance these people will be feeling unwell, and that would be a perfect opportunity to say, "I told you so," but quite frankly, I pray I'm wrong, and they'll be fine.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
They initially told us we needed to shut down so our hospitals won't be overwhelmed due to the lack of ventilators. We have plenty of ventilators now, so we might as well just open everything up. Temperature checks, and testing aren't going to do anything. It's basically a waste of money imo considering most don't show symptoms and the long incubation period. Antibody testing is the only important test.
Also, at some point many people will have already had it. Those people should definitely be able to do what they want.
Also, at some point many people will have already had it. Those people should definitely be able to do what they want.
TheWinz
Footballguy
In late December, my wife and I got together with a group of about 12 of my coworkers. We rented a huge suite at Foxwoods Casino to celebrate the New Year. We all gambled for a bit, but ended up back in the suite, getting hammered. We were all drinking shots of whiskey dropped into a chaser. Unknown to me, the chaser was Red Bull. The next morning, I felt like my heart was gonna explode, and ended up in the ER. Everyone else was fine. Did I mention my wife and I are about 20 years older than all of my coworkers?
My point is, these young folks aren't gonna be the ones suffering. They probably don't even know a single person around their age that has even gotten sick from COVID, much less ended up in the hospital, or died. I understand twenty-somethings socially distancing from at risk folks, but why do they need to socially distance from each other? FTR, I don't blame any of my coworkers. That's just the way they party nowadays. As for me, I will stick to straight whiskey and cigarettes. And yes, they all still laugh at me about it.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Why are you guys responding to buck? He’s been trolling for weeks- laughing at people’s serious posts and spouting outright lies. Put him on ignore and don’t give him the attention he’s after.
As for the photos - I wouldn’t say they make me angry. They make me sad because I realize it does mean more people will most likely die and it almost assuredly means my kids won’t get to go to school in the fall. I’ve already been told I won’t be going in to the office this calendar year and that sucks. (To be fair, we have a somewhat unique campus situation - read very large). I will say we are almost all in the same boat when it comes to wanting this to be over and wanting go back to some sense of normalcy.
As for the photos - I wouldn’t say they make me angry. They make me sad because I realize it does mean more people will most likely die and it almost assuredly means my kids won’t get to go to school in the fall. I’ve already been told I won’t be going in to the office this calendar year and that sucks. (To be fair, we have a somewhat unique campus situation - read very large). I will say we are almost all in the same boat when it comes to wanting this to be over and wanting go back to some sense of normalcy.
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How are you arriving at your conclusion that 'most don't show symptoms"?
And also 'at some point many people will have already had it', while suppose that's possible, we're not anywhere close to that being true now.
Troll way less if you come back.bigmarc27 said:
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Look up the study itself. 4 subjects. With several null values as well.belljr said:
Better study
Although even there it is not a ton of subjects.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
That is usa today which is owned by the same company as the DAYTONA BEACH NEWS-JOURNAL just reprinting the same story. They do that all the time since it costs no money to do so and requires zero extra reporting.bigmarc27 said:
belljr
Footballguy
But he said they weren't effective, the actual study you linked said they were...did he just not read the study
