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Twitter vs Trump: Twitter puts warning labels on Trump’s tweets; Trump retaliates with threats and executive order

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37 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

Oh good, now POTUS completely misunderstands what free speech entails.

Lol at misunderstands 

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At another board I sometimes visit "Just asking questions" is known as "JAQ-ing off."

What Don has been doing is a smear job, plain and simple. Shame on anyone who can't see that. 

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I'm fine with them fact-checking as long as it's done in a non-biased fashion.  

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I dont think Twitter should open that can of worms. 

If they do it's going to be a wild ride. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

I dont think Twitter should open that can of worms. 

If they do it's going to be a wild ride. 

Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.

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3 minutes ago, dutch said:

Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.

If the POTUS was a poster on this board just think what he would be tweeting out about Joe.

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Just now, dutch said:

Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.

The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 

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3 minutes ago, dutch said:

Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.

Hypothetical: If Trump posted here how many timeouts would he have by now?

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

He would probably just make an alt account and just be right back at the crazy. 

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Just now, Leroy Hoard said:

Hypothetical: If Trump posted here how many timeouts would he have by now?

Permaban, all 500 aliases

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1 hour ago, Max Power said:

The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 

They didn’t censor Trump. They put a note saying he is full of it on this. 

Perfectly acceptable.

 

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Trump abusing power again to cheat in the election. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Ham said:

Trump abusing power again to cheat in the election. 

And falsely accusing his opponents of doing the exact thing he's doing to muddy the waters.

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There was an error in Twitter's fact check of Trump's vote-by-mail tweets, underscoring the challenge social media platforms face trying to arbitrate truth. 

It was corrected after an elections professional notified the company (and me) about the mistake.https://t.co/bQmfZc8pBm pic.twitter.com/6IoeSzlXpq 


— Dustin Volz (@dnvolz) May 27, 2020

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Posted (edited)
23 hours ago, The General said:

They didn’t censor Trump. They put a note saying he is full of it on this. 

Perfectly acceptable.

 

Perfectly acceptable that he is fact-checked by Twitter by using CNN and the WAPO as the "fact-checkers"?

...hardly.

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10 minutes ago, Opie said:

Perfectly acceptable that he is fact-checked by Twitter by using CNN and the WAPO as the "fact-checkers"?

...hardly.

He made clearly false statements. If you want to dispute that you have an issue with the truth.

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Posted (edited)

It makes the Left look soooo weak!

They can't beat him themselves so they call in "big tech" to help out.

Of all the tweets they could speak out on...they pick the one concerning, mail in voting.

No fact checking on Schiff during his constant lying about Russian collusion.
No fact checking on the Chinese bots about the COVID-19 numbers

Trump mentions mail in voting.....it's "bring all guns to bear"

It is so obvious, it's laughable.

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Just now, The General said:

He made clearly false statements. If you want to dispute that you have an issue with the truth.

Like the endless list of all the false statements Schiff and the Democrats made about Russian collusion?

Edited by Opie

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5 minutes ago, The General said:

He made clearly false statements. If you want to dispute that you have an issue with the truth.

Did you miss the post a couple up? Twitter has admitted it was an error now. 

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28 minutes ago, Opie said:

Perfectly acceptable that he is fact-checked by Twitter by using CNN and the WAPO as the "fact-checkers"?

...hardly.

Yes...its perfectly acceptable that he gets fact checked as long as those facts are done with, you know, facts.  Doesn't matter if its from Fox or WashPo (who does quite well with fact checks despite Trump's complaints).

 

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19 minutes ago, Opie said:

It makes the Left look soooo weak!

They can't beat him themselves so they call in "big tech" to help out.

Of all the tweets they could speak out on...they pick the one concerning, mail in voting.

No fact checking on Schiff during his constant lying about Russian collusion.
No fact checking on the Chinese bots about the COVID-19 numbers

Trump mentions mail in voting.....it's "bring all guns to bear"

It is so obvious, it's laughable.

The left?  

I think the fact that being fact checked bothers him so much...makes Trump weak (not just look weak...but actually makes him weak).

Who called on "big tech" to help anyone?

Well, his tweets on mail in voting have been false...so yes, those got checked.

Ahh...whataboutism is always a great defense.

 Obvious is the deflection Trump and his supporters continue to use on this...

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On 5/27/2020 at 12:21 PM, Max Power said:

The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 

The flip side of that argument is you're basically saying the Government should be able to freely use private social media to deliver propaganda to the American people. 

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They fact checked China scientists

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15 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Did you miss the post a couple up? Twitter has admitted it was an error now. 

Which part did they actually admit was the error?  The pasted URL did not exist...

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18 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Did you miss the post a couple up? Twitter has admitted it was an error now. 

Their corrections don't negate the main point that Trump lied. The edit they made was to correct their assertion that Nebraska votes entirely by mail, Nebraska does not vote entirely by mail so they changed the language they used in that section to read:

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"Five states already vote entirely by mail and and all states offer some form of mail-in absentee ballot voting, according to NBC news."

Trumps statement about rigged elections, election fraud etc. due to vote by mail are predominantly false, and intended to exert undue influence on opinion to give him unfair advantage in the next election. He needs to be held accountable for such dishonesty, better for Twitter to call him out on it, even if sloppily at first, than to let it go unchallenged.

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11 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

The flip side of that argument is you're basically saying the Government should be able to freely use private social media to deliver propaganda to the American people. 

Sadly this is already happening with our main stream media. 

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11 minutes ago, Jackstraw said:

The flip side of that argument is you're basically saying the Government should be able to freely use private social media to deliver propaganda to the American people. 

With CNN, FOX, MSNBC we really don`t need social media to deliver propaganda the American people.  They do a pretty good job on their own.

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Posted (edited)

They didn't censor him

And I have zero issue blocking disabling censoring people they feel breaks their terms of service.  (I.e influencing elections)

I don't care who it is

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

Sadly this is already happening with our main stream media. 

It's also already happening in our social media - the twitter thread you posted is clear example of it.

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1 minute ago, Da Guru said:

With CNN, FOX, MSNBC we really don`t need social media to deliver propaganda the American people.  They do a pretty good job on their own.

Look you can quibble with the other two but I see this argument as basically a both sides argument to let Fox off the hook. I mean you are actively less informed watching them. I know what I sewe with my own two eyes and Fox is atrocious. Borderline kabuki theater. 

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Wait, now Trump supporters are complaining about Twitter fact-checking itself? :lol:

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Just now, [scooter] said:

Wait, now Trump supporters are complaining about Twitter fact-checking itself? :lol:

So....I guess that everything Twitter DOESN'T 'fact check"....should be taken as the truth?

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4 minutes ago, Opie said:

So....I guess that everything Twitter DOESN'T 'fact check"....should be taken as the truth?

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47 minutes ago, Opie said:

Like the endless list of all the false statements Schiff and the Democrats made about Russian collusion?

You should petition for false statements to be fact checked.

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2 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

So overall...his post was still not truthful in the first place though, correct?

Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 

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Posted (edited)

Twitter and other social media platforms will be haunted by the authority U.S. Code § 230....something they will all regret....guaranteed.

Good job, Twitter...you may as well shut down right now.

Not being a Twitter user....I couldn't care less but it will be fun to watch them try to backtrack.

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43 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Did you miss the post a couple up? Twitter has admitted it was an error now. 

I didn't read it. What was the problem here?

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Just now, Max Power said:

Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 

My state has many layers to stop this.

More people voting and making the process better is a good thing.

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4 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 

Yes, but cases of actual fraud involving mail in ballots are extremely rare. And many states, like California have used absentee ballots for decades and Republicans were the ones who used it the most with almost no instances of voter fraud. 

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13 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 

Risk yes...which gets mitigated by strengthening the system.

None of which, again, changes that what Trump said should have been fact checked.

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11 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yes, but cases of actual fraud involving mail in ballots are extremely rare. And many states, like California have used absentee ballots for decades and Republicans were the ones who used it the most with almost no instances of voter fraud. 

Did California just mail all ballots out or did they require someone to request a ballot to be mailed?

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23 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 

I don't understand this mindset.  I have ONLY voted by mail for 23 years now.  That's our only option in Oregon.  I have never heard a single resident here even once complain about fraud or hold any dubious beliefs about using a mail-in ballot to vote.  It's actually quite enjoyable.  I get my ballot, sit down with a cup of coffee, read all the materials they send with it and vote accordingly.  

How is taking time off work, waiting in a line and doing it in a booth better than that?   

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54 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

The left?  

I think the fact that being fact checked bothers him so much...makes Trump weak (not just look weak...but actually makes him weak).

Who called on "big tech" to help anyone?

Well, his tweets on mail in voting have been false...so yes, those got checked.

Ahh...whataboutism is always a great defense.

 Obvious is the deflection Trump and his supporters continue to use on this...

Ahh...whataboutism ....the points that consistently expose the hypocrisy of the Left  and they always fail to confront.

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Just now, General Malaise said:

Trump's got a press release/briefing coming shortly about social media.  :oldunsure:

 

He should just put it in a tweet.

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