This shop owner was interviewed by the local news outlet. Shop is 100yds outside of Chaz zone. He called 911 police and fire. Firefighters (a bunch of them) showed up in the morning apologetic that they arent allowed to respond to a fire within 100 yards of Chaz at night without police escort. Police still havent shown up or responded to his 911 calls.
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The wannabe police in action.
No arrest, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty. Just beat down until the medics had to take him out of the Chaz to get real medical help.
No arrest, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty. Just beat down until the medics had to take him out of the Chaz to get real medical help.
Overdose in the Chaz.
Luckily this happened during the day when Fire & Rescue is allowed to show up.
Luckily this happened during the day when Fire & Rescue is allowed to show up.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Just out of curiosity, is this illegal in Seattle? How about surrounding counties or the state in general?
Football Jones
Footballguy
Somebody said long gun age is 21. That's an AK with a drum magazine so not sure if they have mag restrictions.
Don't they have open carry in Washington? Seattle doesn't seem like a place that has friendly gun laws, but maybe I'm wrong.
Manster
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Well, typically the liberal cities have strict gun laws. I don't know Seattle specifically, but in other parts of the state it would most likely be legal.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Anyone think this is sustainable?
It should've been handled immediately, now it's just a ####-show.
I'm assuming there's people living inside the area who don't like it. I feel terrible for them.
They need to be out on of their ### already (& the sooner, the better).
Mind-boggling.
It should've been handled immediately, now it's just a ####-show.
I'm assuming there's people living inside the area who don't like it. I feel terrible for them.
They need to be out on of their ### already (& the sooner, the better).
Mind-boggling.
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Football Jones
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I have a friend that lives in the area. He said it's like a lame music festival, and compares it to the parking lot at an old grateful dead show. As long as Seattle elects people like Kshama Sawant, they get what they deserve.
Football Jones
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Manster
Footballguy
Shop owner interviewed on local radio station.
- guy was seen jumping fence with hammer, broke into business, started a fire on a desk and started stealing things.
- shop owner was notified by other local businesses members that saw him break in. Father and son went to business and confronted the burglar/arsonist and were attacked with a box cutter.
- son only suffered cut clothing and scratches before detaining suspect with rifle butt to the chest. 911 called.
- protesters outside demanded his release or they would come back with an angry mob from the CHAZ. Eventually they released him, the mob still came and knocked down their fence, vandalized property with graffiti and made death threats.
- despite 19 911 calls, fire department didnt show up until the next morning, police didnt show up until today. Officers very apologetic for not being allowed to do their job
- business owners collectively frustrated and scared. The few that have attempted to contact "leaders" at the CHAZ have only been met with increased vandalism and threats.
Summary - vandalizm, breaking and entering, arson, and attempted assault all AOK by Seattle City Council.
Manster
Footballguy
I thought this was Seattle's summer of love?....
I mean it's one thing to demand police reform, defunding, whatever......but when someone commits these crimes, is confronted, and detained, they actually released him, and the mob still came......this is why we have cops! What a buncha dip####s!
Serious question for lefties, if that was your business, how would you feel about Chaz now?
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the rover
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SaintsInDome2006
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irish eyes
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The police or military need to be sent in there immediately to remove these idiots & that incompetent mayor. And before anyone comes in here crying about calling them idiots, just go visit ALL of the trump threads with all of the class some display in those.tonydead said:
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SaintsInDome2006
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The military? Meaning, US Army? One possible solution for you is for (presumably) the President to send in the military to remove not only the squatters but the mayor?
Their list of demands starting with BLM's #1 agenda item: Defunding Police
200 foot long mural of "black lives matter on" on East Pine Street.
BLM graffiti and propaganda all over the AZ he's patrolling.
The fact that BLM hasn't spoken out against or renounced their actions using their platform.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and smells like duck ####........
ren hoek
Footballguy
It’s literally just a video of a black guy arguing the 2A stance. Yet somehow, you extrapolate this out to the entirety of BLM.
In any case, I support him. Being armed is inherent to any political uprising. Modern gun control wasn’t a project of liberals, but Reagan being spooked by blacks open carrying on the capitol. The Black Panthers, conversely, were prolific advocates for gun ownership. The push for gun control is historically rooted in racism.
Now nominally pro-2A conservatives are calling for the police/military to shut down people open carrying on Cap Hill. Socialized, government police forces. It’s actually pitiful.
Manster
Footballguy
All conservatives I know are advocates for the 2nd amendment for all. I would say most people I know are also about operating within the confines of the law.......that said, im all for peaceful protesting, and social change, but this does not seem to be a positive situation.
I also understand that chaz, in their current situation, feels the need to protect themselves. There are prolly more than a few people upset with them up there. Kind of a cluster.....
I think most people are asking for the shutting down of the vandalism, breaking and entering, theft, extortion, trespassing, arson, illegal drugs and assault happening on Cap Hill.....all this activity just happens to be protected and often coordinated by thugs with guns.
It's ironic that the far left adopts the 2nd amendment when convenient. Normally they have their panties in a bunch when people walk around with assault rifles with large magazines. I mean just look back at the beginnings of the thread (out of the Antifa thread) and see all the people in denial that the "protesters" even had guns. Now it's crickets.
Manster
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The General
Footballguy
This all comes down to that incontrovertible fact that there are a certain percentage of people that are stupid. This is a thing that unifies all of us. This crosses all races, backgrounds, wealth levels, etc.
CHAZ people are not going to be any different.
CHAZ people are not going to be any different.
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People are dumb so that makes it ok?
That's one way to sympathize with them I guess.irish eyes
Footballguy
And this is why it's completely ridiculous it has gone on this long. Get those fools out of there now.
The General
Footballguy
Where did I say it's ok?People are dumb so that makes it ok?
Saying one person in there is doing stupid things doesn't mean everyone is stupid either.
One person, ok. There are several pages of a whole bunch of folks. The US collectively got a lot smarter the second that group pretended to leave.
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The General
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There are thousands of people in that area on any given day. People posting a pic of a sign that says ridiculous #### on it like "The Rules of CHAZ" and freaking out about it is silly to me. That sign was just pasted up there by some dope. There's like a hundred different opinions going on in there about every topic.
I think the whole thing is very bizarre and I wouldn't taken these steps if I were the Mayor. I think she will be toast in the next election (although Seattle always votes out the Mayor).
My take is ultimately I think it will end messily but the protests were also going to end messily. This just drags it out. It's also not the end of civilization. Take some deep breaths.
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Deep breaths? I live and work in the burbs, this doesnt affect me at all. I'll pass along your messages to the residents and businesses owners in that area though, that it's no big deal. I'm sure they're just overreacting.
Pretending this is just a couple bad actors is ignorance at its finest. Got to hand it to you though, the rest of your comrades in here have dropped defending this #### show like a hot potato.
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ren hoek
Footballguy
What’s the problem then? Let them have their territory if you hate them so much. They can always beg the racist warrior cops to come back if it’s that bad.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Did they really send in porta potties for these non working idiots. How on earth did this mayor ever get a job. This is just unbelievable.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Yes because EVERY cop is racist. Just move along, if you defend this behavior I just don't know what to even say.
ren hoek
Footballguy
This Seattle protest zone is police-free. So volunteers are stepping up to provide security.
Antonio Ochoa has no formal security training. But around 3 a.m. on recent Saturday, they were called to help defuse the situation unfolding on a street corner. A man had been yelling, and he began punctuating his anger by knocking over a metal trash can.
Ochoa, who is white and uses they/them pronouns, did not engage the man, who is black, directly. Instead, they began picking up trash, while giving the man space. He quickly turned apologetic and offered to help clean up.
For the past several days, Ochoa, 28, has been serving as an unarmed volunteer “sentinel,” or guard, in the protest zone. Ochoa, a self-described leftist libertarian recently furloughed from the Seattle International Film Festival, and other volunteers have been serving four-hour shifts to help to keep the peace.
The zone was formed last week amid the Black Lives Matter protests. Activists had gathered at a neighborhood police precinct to call for accountability and an end to police violence. In response, on June 8, police officers left that area. A spontaneous protest encampment has since sprung up outside the building, run by volunteer activists.
Core to the zone is a vision of a self-governed community with no formal policing. Instead, volunteers, many of them avowed police abolitionists, have begun to organize their own safety force.
Among other incidents, these volunteers have confronted a man throwing apples and threatening punches, a car driving toward a large crowd of pedestrians and a vehicle circling the block repeatedly and taking photos. Volunteers say they have engaged with armed visitors from outside the city who came to the zone convinced that Seattle needed saving from left-wing agitators.
They have defused fights, protected store windows from vandals and handled mental-health crises. Protesters rushed to douse the flames when a lone arsonistattempted to set fire to the precinct early Friday. The director of an LGBTQ resource center publicly thanked sentinelsfrom the protest zone Sunday for their assistance watching over a broken window until plywood arrived, attributing the incident to a mental-health or drug-addiction issue with a person who regularly sleeps in the center’s doorway.
Volunteers say this work is a way to highlight what a city without police might look like. “We have a chance to really build something here, so I have a vested interest in defending that as a part of my community,” said Ochoa, who lives in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. “I live on the Hill, and the police presence here has always been tense and kind of malicious.”
Antonio Ochoa has no formal security training. But around 3 a.m. on recent Saturday, they were called to help defuse the situation unfolding on a street corner. A man had been yelling, and he began punctuating his anger by knocking over a metal trash can.
Ochoa, who is white and uses they/them pronouns, did not engage the man, who is black, directly. Instead, they began picking up trash, while giving the man space. He quickly turned apologetic and offered to help clean up.
For the past several days, Ochoa, 28, has been serving as an unarmed volunteer “sentinel,” or guard, in the protest zone. Ochoa, a self-described leftist libertarian recently furloughed from the Seattle International Film Festival, and other volunteers have been serving four-hour shifts to help to keep the peace.
The zone was formed last week amid the Black Lives Matter protests. Activists had gathered at a neighborhood police precinct to call for accountability and an end to police violence. In response, on June 8, police officers left that area. A spontaneous protest encampment has since sprung up outside the building, run by volunteer activists.
Core to the zone is a vision of a self-governed community with no formal policing. Instead, volunteers, many of them avowed police abolitionists, have begun to organize their own safety force.
Among other incidents, these volunteers have confronted a man throwing apples and threatening punches, a car driving toward a large crowd of pedestrians and a vehicle circling the block repeatedly and taking photos. Volunteers say they have engaged with armed visitors from outside the city who came to the zone convinced that Seattle needed saving from left-wing agitators.
They have defused fights, protected store windows from vandals and handled mental-health crises. Protesters rushed to douse the flames when a lone arsonistattempted to set fire to the precinct early Friday. The director of an LGBTQ resource center publicly thanked sentinelsfrom the protest zone Sunday for their assistance watching over a broken window until plywood arrived, attributing the incident to a mental-health or drug-addiction issue with a person who regularly sleeps in the center’s doorway.
Volunteers say this work is a way to highlight what a city without police might look like. “We have a chance to really build something here, so I have a vested interest in defending that as a part of my community,” said Ochoa, who lives in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood. “I live on the Hill, and the police presence here has always been tense and kind of malicious.”
I said pages back if they keep all the homeless down there with them they can have all of Capitol hill. I recommend a border fence with razor wire too. Of course they wouldnt last long, would they.
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