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Yeah - I‘m also curious about whether NFL contracts have “act of god” clauses that void them for natural disaster.
Yeah - it’s a mess. NFL over here pretending everything’s fine. Season as scheduled. Nothing to see here.
well this doesn’t bode well. Given the long-term impact to lung function, there is definitely a FF implication, which of course comes second to the risk of loss of life.
i mean, in places other than a FF forum, of course.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/texans/article/Texans-Cowboys-players-positive-COVID-tests-15340985.php?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=sftwitter
Yeah - news from Sat IIRC.
Oh man - I did not even think of this. Yes, some teams would be worse spots for an outbreak than others.
He will be just fine.Yahoo now reporting Ezekiel Elliott as one of the players who’s tested positive.
You don’t know that at all.
Probably, but you don't know that at all. Even if he doesn't get hospitalized or worse, his lungs could get damaged, which is pretty terrible for an athlete.
I'm choosing my words carefully as to not be labelled as "not taking the virus serious enough"... because this couldn't be farther from the truth.
I did? Jeez, you even made up a fake quote using quotation marks and all. How official.
Yes, I know the odds for people in their 20s suffering are quite low, but they're not non-existent. So, I would say he is at much higher risk of lung problems than he was last season or compared to any player who doesn't have COVID 19.
I don’t know if you’re not taking the virus seriously enough or not.
These numbers are relative. So he goes from risk of long term lung issues from say 0.01% to 0.02% is technically "much higher". The risk is almost zero.
Yet likely significantly higher, were we in the middle of a “choking on steak pandemic”, Which we’re not.
You said "EVERYONE". No not everyone will be fine. Elderly people will not be fine. So your quote was not at all what I said.Shot / chaser.
You could use this argument for everything. The odds of Zeke's season being compromised by a Covid Diagnosis right now are the same as if he got a flu right now. Or drove himself down the freeway to practice. The reason you don't have a "Zeke drove himself down a busy highway" threads is because it's not as "clickbait-y" as Covid is. This is a virus that needs to be taken more seriously than it has been based on the people it could affect, but to 99% of the population who get it, it's not a big scary deal.
and again: you absolutely, for a fact, do not know this.
no, they’re not. At all. Because COVID19 =/= the flu.
or maybe that’s because he does have COVID19, and also that no one reported that he “drove himself down the highway”.
And without a crystal ball, you don’t know for whom it will or will not be “a big deal”. Not at all. Not for any player, coach, or personnel. They’re all just human beings, and without time and testing, we have no idea how each of them will respond since it’s a case by case basis. That’s just science.
Likely more healthy 20 year olds are dying from choking on food then they are from Covid right now. So yes it is. There has been 72 deaths in America from Covid from people aged 15-24, from Feb 1st-June 6th. Almost all of them had prior health issues.Yet likely significantly higher, were we in the middle of a “choking on steak pandemic”, Which we’re not.
otherwise your analogy is spot on.
A healthy 20-something just had a lung transplant.
The woman who received the double lung transplant had no underlying conditions, though.
Of course there are exceptions to everyone. I have read about the healthy 20 year old who died of it. Again, there's more healthy 20 year olds dying from choking on steak. But that isn't worth a headline.
But we do not know those odds yet.
Yes, it happens. I never said the odds were 0%. I said the odds are so incredibly low, that the above mentioned woman could have just as easily died in a car accident.
I think you're the one fishing here. I understand you're known for getting off on clicks, but this is a little much. Maybe try to stick to the topic. This is great news for Zeke's fantasy numbers that he got this virus now.Yeahokpal
good schtick. Ya got me to reply a few times there.
I did read what you wrote. And YOU are the one ignoring doctors and scientists and numbers, all of which have proven there is an EXTREMELY low risk to Zeke. Easy for you to justify your fear in this by saying "Extremely low isn't zero! Look a big headline! Look at me! You can't prove it's no risk!".
This. This is the important point to take away from this. There's going to be players testing positive no doubt. There's huge risk to them passing it on to teammates who could pass it on to family, and this could be a very serious issue for their elderly family members. I think there's no doubt they will make a player who tests positive stop all activity with the team (and rightfully so), and no re-join the team until they are 7 days symptom free. Luckily for Zeke he got this now and will be almost completely immune to getting it again (yes, for god sakes I know there's a tiny CHANCE he can get it again, but very very unlikely)
Once again ignoring facts to get clicks. Have fun with that. Zeke has almost zero risk of this hurting him this season, and more risk of him being injured in a car accident. The numbers don't lie. But keep up your fishing.
I don’t care about “clicks” and the facts are we have no idea what the long term effects from even a mild case of COVID 19 will be.
Or, hear me out, some of those in the media want to pretend that this is a disease that affects only old people so that we can re-open the economy and force “essential workers“ back to work, sacrificing their health for the economy while cutting off unemployment benefits while the business owners stay home & safe.
lol now you're really fishing. The risk is not greater because he has covid. Again you're making things up. You can say "ok there's steak in his mouth... there's a risk already there... he could get over it and swallow it fine, or he could choke and die". Ignoring facts by saying "i'm not an expert and neither is anyone else" is just a big safety net you've built yourself here, as it's an easy claim to make when really there's very very very little risk to Zeke here. "Oh but we don't know how much!". *Roll Eyes*.... you're reaching and I think you know it now.Or, hear me out, some of those in the media want to pretend that this is a disease that affects only old people so that we can re-open the economy and force “essential workers“ back to work, sacrificing their health for the economy while cutting off unemployment benefits while the business owners stay home & safe.
In other words, some people want to politicize what is in fact a medical issue. To pretend a pandemic isn’t a pandemic because “the economy!”.
And the fact is, we don’t know who this actually affects and how. We don’t know anywhere near enough about this pandemic to make sweeping judgments about who it affects and how.
there have been both old people and young affected. Healthy and unhealthy. A 40-something marathon runner dead in a week from it. A 90-something year old WWII vet with all sorts of maladies who survived it. Or a 30-something nurse I knew who passed away after a 5 week battle with it.
What we know now is so much different than what we knew at the beginning of this.
We see large swaths of elderly dying because they’re in homes with concentrated populations of people with age & other preexisting conditions. That tends to skew the numbers to where people say “see! It disproportionately effects old people! Young people have nothing to worry about”.
except now we know that’s just another false narrative. It will effect any large population in a small area & we still don’t know what underlying conditions make people more susceptible.
For a short time people blamed the obese - because that’s always an easy target for people who aren’t obese to blame victims for their own demise. Then we see an otherwise healthy, not obese 6 year old girl die & narratives go out the window.
what we do know is that
• anyone can get it
• it’s a disease that attacks blood vessels - which explains the broad spectrum of symptoms.
• A large number of deaths have not been attributed to COVID19 that should have been. Ex: Florida had the lowest COVID death rate of any state for a month or so, yet somehow 5000 people died of “pneumonia” in a 5 week period. The annual average was like 700.
• Strokes & embolisms are now being identified as a symptom.
• a % of those who get it will become much more sick than others
• a % of those people will require hospitalization
• a % of them will need a ventI later
• About 60% of that last group will die a horrible death.
what we do not actually know, but people think we know:
• what underlying factors contribute to who gets it & how bad
• what the long term effects might be.
it is that last bullet I’m concerned with for NFL talk. Because like chicken pox -> shingles, there may be some long-term impacts of this disease that we simply do not know about. And those might be in effect regardless of how severe someone’s symptoms are.
i’m not saying I know for a fact there will be long-term or recurring symptoms. I’m not a scientist & unlike some in here I won’t pretend to know how *anyone* who contracts it will recover, much less Their long-term prognosis.
all we know is that we just don’t know enough. And because of that, anyone who gets this, no matter how mildly, can’t be dismissed as “‘no risk”.
Does that mean you shouldn’t draft Zeke in dynasty? I have no idea. I probably would.
but I would do it knowing that there is risk. And that risk is greater than Zeke choking on steak or driving himself to work, because he does in fact have COVID19, allegedly.
And for the 4th time, you're putting words into my mouth in order to support an 'argument' here. I absolutely do not think it's funny your friend died of Covid. I would never ever say that in a million years. My best friend's grandmother died from it as well, it's a very serious issue.
Quite a stone to throw. I put a laughing emoji on your post which didn't even MENTION anything about your friend, and you take this as "You're laughing at my friend dying, you're unclassy". Yikes man.
It's not just a FF problem IMO it's an NFL problem. If this happens during the season there's a decent chance the other players won't want to be in the locker room or on the field.
well this doesn’t bode well. Given the long-term impact to lung function, there is definitely a FF implication, which of course comes second to the risk of loss of life.
i mean, in places other than a FF forum, of course.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/texans/article/Texans-Cowboys-players-positive-COVID-tests-15340985.php?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=sftwitter
Yep exactly. Too risky to have it spread to those it could really affect. Players are going to have to be extremely careful to distance all season if they want to play 16 games. This is the issue here. Luckily for those who get it now they will mostly be immune to it once the season starts up.
