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2020 NBA Playoffs Thread - Haters arguing that it took Lebron 10 Finals to win 4 titles (4 Viewers)
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Skipping out on tonight's game. Series doesn't start until it's 3-1 anyway.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
umm, it's the lakers and it's the playoffs. the officials are the least of your worries.
modogg
Footballguy
they have to hope to do something. i think if they are going to win a championship with their current line-up, this year has to be their best chance. SIxers are a literal dumpster fire, but that doesn't take away the potential they do have and if they get the right coach the team should be ok. Not sure what they do in Milwaukee, but if they want to keep Giannis they need to figure something out. But Giannis isn't getting worse either.
and this Heat team looks to be something at least for the next year, maybe 2. So if the C's can't win the East this year, i don't know if they can do it without some changes to some of their core pieces. All of their assets are drying up after this year, so it will be interesting to see what they choose to do if the Heat beat them
AndrewClark
Footballguy
LeBron whining about mvp voting totals in the middle of the playoffs?
Synthesizer
Footballguy
Reporter asked him how he felt about it. “Pissed me off. That’s my true answer.” Then he said he’d have a glass of wine and sleep well. I appreciate his honesty but maybe others would prefer that he give some canned response then complain about it 25 years later in a documentary.
AndrewClark
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
Finally closed one out (barely). Seemed like Boston dominated the majority of the game, but Miami keeps jacking in 3s and getting loose ball rebounds.
I was guessing they'd win this one just based on sheer desperation. If they can get Hayward back to like 80% of his pre-injury self, they have a real shot to pull out the series. I think they would have won at least one of the first two games with him.
I was guessing they'd win this one just based on sheer desperation. If they can get Hayward back to like 80% of his pre-injury self, they have a real shot to pull out the series. I think they would have won at least one of the first two games with him.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
They need the Celtics too. A Lakers/Celtics final would be far more appealing to the casual fan than Lakers/Heat, but I don't think the NBA post-David Stern is as blatant about having the refs call games certain ways to influence results, so whatever happens, happens.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I don't think there is a way to salvage the season in regards to viewership. People that are watching the NBA now will watch the finals regardless of who is in it. I don't think any one team is going to change viewership that much at this point in time. The lockdown introduced a lot of people to a lot of content that they were not familiar with beforehand. Non hardcore fans can just get the results of a basketball game by googling it or watching 3 minutes of highlights after the game ends. They can't really do that with a podcast or a show on Netflix. On top of that--people have lots on their minds and sitting down for 2-3 hours to watch a sporting event is just not as appealing to some casual fans as it may have been before. The NFL ratings haven't been killing it either and they have diminished moderately as well. Regardless of ratings--I still think the NBA has done a nice job doing what they can to work under the circumstances. The product is looking good and is entertaining enough to watch for the more hardcore basketball fans.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
I would be surprised if the vast majority of the ratings decline wasn't directly attributable to the unrestrained political onslaught viewers are getting during games. I know of a handful of serious basketball fans that are refusing to watch the NBA for that reason alone.jvdesigns2002 said:
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Thank you AD.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Nice shot.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
What a game. Felt like Denver had that one. I posted earlier that if Murray and Joker can effectively neutralize AD and lebron that you gotta like Denvers chances. Tonight was theirs if it wasn't for a great shot by AD. Joker even did a decent job closing out on him. I picked the Lakers in 6 when it started--and I think I'm still going to stand by that.
trader jake
Footballguy
Jokic made two huge plays to tie the series for the Nuggets...and then AD hits the game winner at the buzzer. Unreal, clutch shot. AD needs that as much as anybody. Came up biggest when the Lakers needed it, scoring the last 10 points for LA. Big time performance.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Great shot by AD!! Credit where credit is due.
I am just hoping this was THAT game where Denver can build off of and make a run now. I was worried LA was going to dominate, but tonight showed they are vulnerable.
I am just hoping this was THAT game where Denver can build off of and make a run now. I was worried LA was going to dominate, but tonight showed they are vulnerable.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
This is for sure true. I know some people that aren't watching sports because of it. I'm only speaking in regards to the people that I personally know--but those same people tend to be the type that are very vocal and have no problem exposing their own political views. I don't think it's the "political onslaught" by itself that is driving down viewership--its just that the politics being shown by the players is not perfectly in line with what their personal beliefs are. I feel bad for them as they are missing out on some great games. What AD and Joker did tonight at the end of the game was special.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
WTF was Plumlee doing on that play 
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Chris B.
Footballguy
The same "patriots" that bashed Kaepernick for kneeling? Those dinosaurs can't go extinct fast enough.
Anyway, I'm not loving how ineffective Kuzma is.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Kuzma was terrible tonight. He needs to learn how to dribble and catch the ball. His decision-making at both ends was poor.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Kuzma's play all year has surprised me. He seemed poised to be the third banana to LBJ and AD but has been nothing more than an inconsistent bench player.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Pretty much. His defense has been a lot better in the bubble, but his offense has regressed from his rookie year. Part of it may be how he is used, but part of it is his shot not getting better. He's a pretty good cutter, but doesn't do it much (or get to do it much - not sure what the coaches ask him to do) and he has become pretty soft going to the basket. He seems to almost avoid contact to get his shot off instead of attacking and drawing fouls. I do appreciate his hustle up the court to get behind the defense from time to time, since the Laker offense can use every easy bucket it can get. I expect Pelinka to explore his trade value this off-season.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Kuzma seemed lost tonight. Caruso and Porter Jr. I felt both provided sparks for their teams. Also- the play of Rondo has impressed me. It’s not so much his numbers- it just seems like he provides the Lakers with a level of steadiness. Going back to the Denver side; that Dozier kid showed some flashes. I need to look into him as I frankly didnt know much about him at all.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Dozier was a big part of the South Carolina squad that went to the Final Four a few years back. That was his sophomore year and he declared for the draft after that run. Not a wise move as he didn't get drafted and has mostly bounced around the G league the last 3 years. Apparently, he has been working hard on his craft to get this opportunity.
I've always thought he had good length and handling, but an inconsistent shot.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
there was a video on twitter showing before the play that Grant is telling Plumlee to help him with Lebron, so Plumlee seemed to think that he just needed to go over and double him.WTF was Plumlee doing on that play
dawgtrails
Footballguy
It was such a bad play though. Lebron is just standing there, and Plumlee decided to just run into Lebron for no reason. All while AD is just jogging to the 3 point line. I can see the switch if there was an actual pick on the play, but AD ran like 6 feet wide of Lebron
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
i don't know why plumlee thought that was the right thing to do, just saying that's what grant was telling him. Although watching it again today, grant seems much less demonstrative than I had remembered.
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1307868969169301506
I don't know exactly what grant was saying, but it didn't seem like he was saying that plumlee had to come right over there while lebron just stands there.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
And either way Plumleee should have been like "Grant, you crazy man. There are 2 seconds left I am sticking on my man"
trader jake
Footballguy
This. Horrible defense.
Malone loves him some Plumlee...much, much more than his play consistently warrants. Plumlee may be underrated from an athletic and skill standpoint, but he makes poor decisions on the court and consistently attempts to do more than he's capable of. He's a decent passer, but he'll start thinking he's Jokic and turn the ball over. He can block shots and move his feet okay, but he starts thinking he's Bam and he'll commit unnecessary fouls on a regular basis. This is the same thing you'll see on Portland with Mario Hezonja.
dawgtrails
Footballguy
Jamal Murray played 44:14 last night and was +16.
When he sat those 3:46 DEN scored 2 points
When he sat those 3:46 DEN scored 2 points
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Horford to the Rockets for Gordon and change rumor floating around out there.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
That deal is so weird. They dump a great young big in Capela and now are turning around and trading decently viable assets for an older and less effective big? Maybe they have some sort of macro plan and this might be the first move of more to come.
On a a side note- am I the only one that felt like no game last night felt weird? I wonder how both teams react to the change in rhythm and longer than usual lay-off between games.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I was checking for scores this morning thinking that I forgot to watch the Heat last night.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I think that anything is possible right now with the Rockets, though I agree that it is unclear how Horford gets them much closer to anything good.
This deal would need some salary filler from Houston that would be tough, unless they would give up Tucker or Covington, which seems even crazier. I guess they could get another team involved, but going to be tricky with the lack of cap space around the league.
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