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we're slightly better off (a couple percentage points) than i imagined as a household. and people need less money than i thought to be considered low income.

 
I guessed within $4k. It makes me sad.
i'd pushed it to what i thought was a pretty low number for a family of 4 and the actual number came in a few grand less than that even.

didn't run the numbers on a napkin or anything, but i can't imagine putting a family of 4 through life on 37k a year combined household income.

 
As a family of five, we are not doing as well as I thought we were by 15%. I’m wondering how much of my perception is because we are one income. If my wife worked, the first 50k or so would go to child care and we’d be considered a lot better off with no objective difference in life, except being sad our kids weren’t growing up with a parent around. 
 

one of the many reasons why an exercise like this doesn’t tell much.

 
My problem isn't with income inequality.  Some make more, some less.  It's all relative and many have earned it.

My problem is the wealth gap over generations.   Granted many uber wealthy give a ton of it away - Gates, Buffett, etc... Gates has given away like $45 BILLION.   But a lot of them don't give it away.  I think the inheritance tax needs a huge ++++.  Too many playboys living off what their ancestors did 5 generations ago.

 
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Always hard to remember what my post-tax income is, which is what this asks for
Funny, I usually forget my pretax income.

I'm not really shocked that we're in the top quarter, but it sure doesn't feel like that.  Then again, we're supporting 7 and this is among those supporting 4 or more.

 
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Survey is flawed when the question is income but the result is "richer". 

It's also flawed when the max number of people in the household is 4. 🥱

 
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We are a good bit better off than I expected. I was within 300 bucks on poverty line.. though I think that number is a bit too low. 
 

 
Pretty good, but apparently they believe the only way to pay for social programs is by taxing those making under $265000

no mention of brackets above that no other revenues such as inheritance tax or reducing corporate tax rates or welfare.
Or by fixing other areas of Government spending.

 
Did anyone try any of the other countries? How do we know that site wasn't made by a some middle school kid for his computer science class?

 
My problem isn't with income inequality.  Some make more, some less.  It's all relative and many have earned it.

My problem is the wealth gap over generations.   Granted many uber wealthy give a ton of it away - Gates, Buffett, etc... Gates has given away like $45 BILLION.   But a lot of them don't give it away.  I think the inheritance tax needs a huge ++++.  Too many playboys living off what their ancestors did 5 generations ago.
Not true.  Even with very wealthy families the third generation down has expended the fortune, on average.

 
Chris B. said:
Did anyone try any of the other countries? How do we know that site wasn't made by a some middle school kid for his computer science class?
Well, it appears to be from the OECD, which is a pretty well-respected international organization.

 
cosjobs said:
Pretty good, but apparently they believe the only way to pay for social programs is by taxing those making under $265000

no mention of brackets above that no other revenues such as inheritance tax or reducing corporate tax rates or welfare.
Haven't read the whole thread but was going to post something similar. In mine they said "You 

You have chosen to reduce taxes, which means that the government of United States can spend less on social benefits. If it were up to you, what 3 areas should the government cut:

  • family - Includes things like: parental leave, child care benefits and services, and child benefits, etc.
  • education - Includes things like: schools, universities, adult education services, etc.
  • employment - Includes things like: job search supports, skills training supports, better access to funds to start a business, etc.
  • unemployment - Includes unemployment benefits.
  • poverty reduction - Includes things like: universal basic income and minimum-income benefits.
  • housing - Includes things like: social housing services, housing benefits, etc.
  • health - Includes things like: public hospitals, subsidised health insurance, etc.
  • pensions - disability and long-term care for the elderly - Includes things like: illness and disability benefits and services, etc.
  • other social areas
It's crazy. Like those are the only options. Omitting an option for military spending option is asinine.

 
Haven't read the whole thread but was going to post something similar. In mine they said "You 

It's crazy. Like those are the only options. Omitting an option for military spending option is asinine.
I brought everyone up to 42% with the thought that the excess is pushed back out in the form of M4A and UBI. Health is there, but UBI doesn't really go with poverty reduction in my eyes.

 
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Sand said:
Not true.  Even with very wealthy families the third generation down has expended the fortune, on average.
So let's cut out the two generations of middlemen who blow those fortunes on the casino, cocaine and prostitution industries rather than stupid social programs.

 
So let's cut out the two generations of middlemen who blow those fortunes on the casino, cocaine and prostitution industries rather than stupid social programs.
If we actually enacted measures like that I'd be buying gold to bury and make sure my kids had a treasure map for when I died.  

 
If we actually enacted measures like that I'd be buying gold to bury and make sure my kids had a treasure map for when I died.  
So your net worth is over 5mm?

I'd prefer the cutoff about half that, but still.. How much coke and gambling money do your kids need when you die?

 
So your net worth is over 5mm?

I'd prefer the cutoff about half that, but still.. How much coke and gambling money do your kids need when you die?
Negatory, but if these rules go into effect it will be the blue team and those folks will definitely drive that threshold down or allow inflation do the work over time, etc.  

 
Negatory, but if these rules go into effect it will be the blue team and those folks will definitely drive that threshold down or allow inflation do the work over time, etc.  
what rules? I've seen no blue proposals that would take the Inheritance tax below 3mm. 

So this admin has shown zero fiscal restraint and you're fearmongering the blues?

 
Sand said:
Not true.  Even with very wealthy families the third generation down has expended the fortune, on average.
Any statistical backup of your statement?

I see BANK statements of a few clients with millions in them.  Forget their investments.   It's in banks earning like .5% interest.  It's their play money.   They are extremely well educated and smart.  But their entire job is managing the people that manage the fortune they've been handed down and toys they buy.  If someone has $200M invested and is pulling a mediocre 7%, they are making $39K per day.  No way the wealth gap doesn't get bigger as time goes on.  They make in interest in a week what a well off middle class person makes in a year.

 
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mr. furley said:
i'd pushed it to what i thought was a pretty low number for a family of 4 and the actual number came in a few grand less than that even.

didn't run the numbers on a napkin or anything, but i can't imagine putting a family of 4 through life on 37k a year combined household income.
Been there, done that.  Granted, it was 15 years ago, so the numbers would have been a little different.  My wife stayed home with our kids and I was making under 40k.  It was a monthly choice of which bill I didn't pay that month, so I could get some other bill that was delinquent caught up.

 
djmich said:
lol at this income dial that you have to keep spinning, stopped there.
chet is still spinning since yesterday.   give it up buddy.   i don't think its gonna make much of a difference at this point.  

 

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