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The players are not tanking. The coaches are not tanking. Their jobs are on the line. I am plenty excited about DJ Chark. I am excited to see Laviska Shenault. Why can't the running game produce? It may not be James Robinson, but let's not pretend the guys in front of him are proven performers. One of these backs is likely to emerge and become fantasy relevant.
While I agree that there is a nice range of outcomes, this story usually plays out as a muddled mess. These guys go undrafted for a reason. This may be the true test for the “RB’s don’t matter crowd”. Personally I think Marrone is a tool. I think that played into Fournette’s release (if not the whole mass exodus of talent off that team). So undrafted guy, limited camp, bad team, playing from behind with a pass catching specialist and they already pursued a veteran in Freeman. Kind of think it’s when and not if this becomes a huge rotation people are just flat avoiding except for desperation plays. That being said you have to hold the guy through week 1 just to be sure and you have to make FAAB plays where you can to get him. Not enough useful RB’s in the league right now.
I'm sure the head coach told Robinson to just fall down instead of running for a big gain
Actually, his scouting profile expected him to land anywhere from the 3rd round to undrafted. RBs like these fall through the cracks all the time, so knocking him for being a UDFA when we have seen UDFA RBs recently have some success in the NFL seems a little shortsighted.
Yea agree he looks really good, has great vision, and great burst in the 2nd level.
Given Henry's off the field exploits it's certainly possible that's no coincidence
No I think it was "go put your head and knees in harms way". Even if you don't get hurt, your stats will suck but at least you put something on tape for other coaches/GMs to judge you for.I'm sure the head coach told Robinson to just fall down instead of running for a big gain
Yes, and then when you go one step further and acknowledge what it takes for an UDFA (at any position) to go from 0 to starter in an abbreviated COVID training camp, you have *got* to take notice. People are so hung up on the UDFA status and they forget maybe the most important thing - this guy (and others in similar situations) balled out to win the job. There is something there and it isn't *just* a barren depth chart. Ok maybe they bring in a guy with more draft capital next year but *the main reason this guy is in this position is his talent*. The upside is absolutely there for 2020. The real question is his floor with the other two backs in town and their offense supposedly terrible.
I snagged him in the 18th (last round) of my 12 teamer yesterday about an hour before the latest news. I would guess he'd go a bit earlier if we were drafting tonight.
Wrong sometimes, right sometimes. It's part of the game. Who knows which of these RBs will matter the most. I know that I traded Robinson and Dillon today for 2 2021 2nd rd picks.
‘All the time’ is an exaggeration. Priest Holmes, Philip Lindsey, Willie Parker and Arian Foster are minimal out of literal hundreds if not thousands. Don’t get me wrong being 1st on the depth chart is a great start. Damion Willis was a UDFA 1st string on Cincy’s depth chart last year, where is he now? There is a wide, wide range of outcomes. His likelihood still falls on the end of the scale. He’s a worthwhile lotto, don’t get yourself amped into thinking you’ve stolen Arian Foster.
Just in recent seasons, a very cursory search identified these backs as fourth round or later picks. Not all of them are league winners, but fantasy leaguers were glad they had them on their rosters.
Parse it down here. He was a UDFA. Breida and Williams haven’t even posted a RB2 season. Mostert barely cracked the top 20. So Ekeler and Lindsay. This is not common territory. Stop the hopium. Dude already barely avoided a bullet in a Devonta Freeman signing (and for all we know that may be on the docket for week 2 when salaries are no longer guaranteed).socrates said:
If you told me I could grab off the waiver wire this season's equivalent to 2019 Damien Williams or Raheem Mostert - sign me up! I am not saying he will match those numbers, but I'll roll the dice. Nobody is suggesting Robinson is the next Terrell Davis (6th Round), Arian Foster (UDFA) or Priest Holmes (UDFA), but there is a window of opportunity to grab a lottery ticket off of your waiver wire. If he merely becomes a bye-week filler, it was worth it. If he falls to the back of the line for the Jags, cut your losses and shop the waiver wire again.
I think they've been dying to get rid of Fournette and were looking for any excuse to do so. That's not to say Robinson didn't have a large role in his release and subsequent climb up the depth chart, but it's been an open secret that Jacksonville was willing to part with Fournette for next to nothing.
I don't think I disagree with your argument about UDFA being longshots for fantasy, but Breida, Mostert and Williams were all very playable fantasy assets. If you told me Robinson could put up some the weeks those guys have, I'm on board.
There's also Fred Jackson, Arian Foster, Priest Holmes, and Willie Parker to add to the list of notable UDFA RBs. It is still a long shot, but these guys pan out sometimes.
My questions would be, how do you know that that the Jags' WIlliams/Mostert is Robinson and not Ozigbo?
That is the real question. Perhaps both Robinson and Ozigbo turn out to be fool's gold and someone like J.J. Taylor is this week's waiver wire wonder. Or perhaps there is no real gold to be mined this week. We each have only a limited number of flexible roster spots, so we sift through the data and reports and identify which player or players to target, if any. Sometimes we guess right, sometimes we guess wrong, but you can't hit a homerun if you don't swing the bat.
Good point. That's why I am scouring before week 1 to hit a darling. Plus my team is strong in most every area except RB depth and a solid RB 2/3. Is it Robinson, Ozigbo, Armstead upon return, or even C Thompson and his receiving skills (PPR). Or is it some NE RB - yuck. Boston Scott? Malcom Brown? Josh Kelly or Justin Jackson? Doesn't appear that D Freeman has much left in the tank?
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I'm thinking it depends on team fit. Have your starters set? Maybe draft "super" backups.
I would be afraid any Jax RB would be sitting at the end of my bench and not helping, then at some point some other shiny toy emerges for that team. Pollard is a known commodity and could be a stud should something happen to Elliott.
He's an afterthought for basically the rest of the month. Ineligible to return from IR for 3 weeks. That's a lifetime an longer than some careers in the NFL
I already own shares in Thompson in PPR . Curious as to others' thoughts in a similar situation -- I'm hesitant to buy more shares of this uncertain backfield, even if Robinson looks like he has the juice right now.
IR-COVID is not the same as IR. A player can be activated from the IR-COVID list at any time. There is no 3 week minimum as in the normal IR this year.
thompson in a jay gruden offense...? he is startable in ppr until he gets hurt.
