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Week 2 Waiver Wire (1 Viewer)
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tombonneau
Footballguy
I think he'll be the most consistent of all the WRs. Obviously Evans/Godwin will likely have bigger games, but also more duds.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
I have a 12 team league with relatively decent sized bench. Many of us are 28 year vets of Fantasy Football. Hines, MVS, and Goedert are all on the wire. It's a non-PPR, so it's not surprising these guys who've been on and off rosters the last couple of years are available early season.
He looked good getting the most out of mostly poor run blocking. His best run was when Miami was backed up near it's own goal line and he broke a tackle behind the line and sped to the sideline for a nice gain. Last year, he didn't look special. Howard will still get GL carries and Breida should get some carries. And Laird who looked good late last year as a receiver out of the backfield, also got action yesterday. Gaskin is the one to own for this week, but i wouldn't count out Breida.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
MVS I understand, but not for Goedert and Hines. I'm in 8 dynasty leagues and neither are on the wire. So, unless your roster size is less than 22 in a 12 team league, I find it unlikely those two are on the waiver wire in 99.9% of leagues.
socrates
Footballguy
I have been in leagues like this, and my strategy was to allow teams to burn through their FAAB on speculative players in the early going, then when injuries hit later in the season, I held the edge in the free agency market. I have not yet watched Gaskin from yesterday's game, and perhaps I am misjudging his potential, but I am not going to spend that much of my budget on him. Jordan Howard injured his hamstring, prompting the Dolphins to turn to Gaskin, but I don't anticipate this is a long-term injury. Let your leaguemates blow their budget on Gaskin.
JFS171
Footballguy
As of right now, this feels right to me too, though I'm keeping an open mind about Gaskin. Howard supposedly injured his hamstring, but the Cameron Wolfe tweet announcing it was later deleted. Howard also had the goalline run late in the game, so perhaps he wasn't that injured?
This article from Omar Kelly suggests that Gaskin was the most impressive back in practice this past week (and Kelly has suggested elsewhere that Gaskin was the best back in training camp too), and that Brian Flores is trying to establish a culture where the best players play regardless of draft capital or contracts.
Also, noted on twitter:
It's plausible to me that Gaskin passed Breida for the pass-catching / third down role, especially considering Breida didn't catch many passes in SF either. It's also plausible to me (and hinted at in the article I posted above) that Flores has roles in mind for all of his backs instead of just using one guy, and this will be a giant mess.
Whether Gaskin's role turns into weekly production (especially if Parker misses extended time) remains to be seen. Is 11 personnel really their best offense without Parker? Is Gaskin good enough to pass Howard for the majority of RB work, even if Howard retains short yardage and goal line? Idk.
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zamboni
Footballguy
There seemed to be some confusion yesterday - seemed like the team announced that Howard hurt his hamstring, although it turned out that a mistake was made and it was really Parker.
Not sure what the real skinny is, but it may not have been Howard's injury that opened the door to playing time for Gaskin. I agree that Gaskin may be fool's gold because Howard and Breida are there, but there also may be something with Gaskin. We'll probably have a better idea over the next few weeks.
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socrates
Footballguy
I was unaware of the injury confusion. Sorry if I misspoke on Howard's injury status. I agree, this is a wait-and-see in any event. Whether it was prompted by injury or otherwise, Gaskin made good on his opportunity. Still, I am not inclined to invest very heavily in Gaskin, as he is at best a part of a three-headed RBBC in a subpar offense.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair points. One potential positive is that Gaskin can be the pass-catching specialist. Despite his speed/size, Breida has not been a big pass catcher and we know Howard certainly isn't. May open up a role for Gaskin for a team that may need to throw the ball a lot and doesn't have a lot of receiving options (even more so now with Parker hobbled).
socrates
Footballguy
This certainly perks my ears up in PPR formats. Gaskin has neither the speed of Breida nor the power of Howard, so he needs something to distinguish himself in this rotation. If he can carve out a receiving role, he could offer some PPR value.
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Our roster size is 16 spots. I still consider that relatively deep for a bench (7 spots). We start QB, 2 RB's, 2 WR's, 1 Flex, 1 TE, a DST and a Kicker.
Losing VDE has nothing to do with Smith getting more time. LVE is a middle LB. They play two totally different spots as Smith is an edge rusher that is listed as DE in most set ups so he won't help you as a LB. Aldon is a great pickup though as it looks like he is going to get a lot of run.
BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
Even with a 16-team league, I feel 30% of your budget on a guy like Gaskins is a bit much. I'd scour the box scores and try to find someone else to buy low on, unless your desperate for immediate RB help of course.
Mookie
Footballguy
Please stop. Goedert is rostered in 55% of ALL Yahoo leagues, and he is available in my short bench (14 total, 6 bench spots) Yahoo league. Yeah, I'm a guppy for playing in a Yahoo league, but I enjoy it and it's with coworkers who vary in their commitment to a fantasy game. I'm also in deep bench dynasties and redrafts at MFL where he is long gone. There is no need to be judgmental, or debate the merits of leagues - if it doesn't apply to you, just ignore it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That % includes teams of all sizes and AFC/NFC only formats.
In 12+ team leagues Goeddart is rostered. His ADP was 14.xx
He was drafted in my redraft, and has been talked up at length on forums like this since last year.
your defensiveness is ridiculous. I didn’t say a word about your competence, where you played FF, and I didn’t make a word of judgement.
i simply stated the truth: Goeddart is rostered in the majority of leagues. This recommendation is like suggesting people add Gesecki off waivers, who had similar ADP.
i said nothing about you personally, nor did I judge you. You’re being ridiculous.
it’s actually fine that you play in Yahoo leagues. And it’s good you acknowledge that those leagues aren’t representative of the majority of leagues. But given that, why would you make a recommendation of an add based on those leagues? Baffling.
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I-ROK
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Unfortunately he’s a LB in CBS, where I play IDP.
he’s even better as a DL.
i didn’t mean he’s going to replace VDE. I just think that by DAL getting thinner at LB he will be kept on the field more.
It’s an opinion. I have one. You also have one. There we are.
I-ROK
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Disappointing that it went so far off the rails so quickly. There are a lot of different sizes of FF leagues.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I was racing around at 12:55 in some leagues sliding gameday inactives to IR then adding Scott Miller so I wouldn't be relying on waiver wire priority this coming week. In another league I'm going to be making an uncomfortable cut (probably Mattison) to add Shenault.
It's cool to play different types of leagues. It's never alright to be a tool.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
mattison is a tough drop. League-winner if Cook goes down.
Speaking only for myself, I only (accurately) said a player was rostered in the majority of leagues.
I wasn’t being a tool. I didn’t say anything other than that. It was a matter-of-fact statement.
Drop the slap fighting with the "wish I was in your guppy league". Zero time for it.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Yep. I drafted him, Edmonds, and L Murray specifically for that purpose. But also knowing that I was likely dropping one in September.
Manster
Footballguy
Every year it's a pissing match and the "no way that guy should be on the WW, you must play in a 4 man league" type stuff is the worst......
I have no doubt many on here wouldn't like my leagues, as they are completely unique......but I love that about them......and yes, they are smaller, and there tends to be a fair amount on the wire based on that, and our roster size.....we do that on purpose.....we also limit the availability of the guys on the wire way more than a typical yahoo league.....again, it's by design.....we put emphasis on ww moves being a valuable resource, instead of allowing a free for all......we trade waiver picks......we do bidding wars.......we charge real money for waiver moves......it's great
I have no doubt many on here wouldn't like my leagues, as they are completely unique......but I love that about them......and yes, they are smaller, and there tends to be a fair amount on the wire based on that, and our roster size.....we do that on purpose.....we also limit the availability of the guys on the wire way more than a typical yahoo league.....again, it's by design.....we put emphasis on ww moves being a valuable resource, instead of allowing a free for all......we trade waiver picks......we do bidding wars.......we charge real money for waiver moves......it's great
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Right. I said he’s owned in 98% of leagues. That’s my entire post.
I said nothing about anyone’s league size, I didn’t comment on anyone’s competence or the competence of those they played with. I didn’t make a single snarky comment about “wishing I could play in their league”.
Way to ignore @FBG Moderator though & continue to detail the topic.
I said nothing about anyone’s league size, I didn’t comment on anyone’s competence or the competence of those they played with. I didn’t make a single snarky comment about “wishing I could play in their league”.
Way to ignore @FBG Moderator though & continue to detail the topic.
Joe Thomas is the guy that went in for LVE. He is the guy that looks to benefit with more playing time. Besides him Sean Lee is still around but he is on IR and isn't eligible to return until after week 3. I probably would look elsewhere if you need LB help after losing LVE. Jerome Baker (although he is likely owned in most leagues) had a huge week and should continue putting up IDP stats in that Dolphin Defense. Hewitt for the NYJ should be a decent add if you are desperate.
Smith is strictly a DE in the Cowboys 4-3 scheme so the LVE injury won't affect his play time at all since he is not a LB for Dallas.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I was super disappointed to discover that he was a LB in CBS.
i wish CBS handled position eligibility like Yahoo baseball. 3-4 games played at a position to gain eligibility. It’s dumb that they only base it off of the last year (or last year played in Smith’s case)
Still - 11 tkl and a sack is very solid production in a tackle heavy league like mine. And he looked good - fast, disruptive.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
On receivers:
would like to hear more about this Russell Gage fella, pretty much guarantee lots of someones gonna blow their bids on him tonight. what a stat line. I see many of you think he's a one hit wonder.
Goedert should absolutely be targeted if available, but any narrative that Goedert > Ertz should be downplayed for now. Ertz had a horrible day, some of it was coverage, but more of it was the o-line, qb, and his one bad non-catch that they showed on tv. these two TE's are basically the same at this point with no real pecking order.
Feels like all the top rated rookies fared well this week. So for the "do i cut bait crowd":
Preston Williams is the guy to own in Miami, not Parker. He's a sneaky one who could actually be available in some shallow leagues.
edit: saw Swift's drop in the end zone last night and wanted to work that in here but doesn't belong here so deleted.
would like to hear more about this Russell Gage fella, pretty much guarantee lots of someones gonna blow their bids on him tonight. what a stat line. I see many of you think he's a one hit wonder.
Goedert should absolutely be targeted if available, but any narrative that Goedert > Ertz should be downplayed for now. Ertz had a horrible day, some of it was coverage, but more of it was the o-line, qb, and his one bad non-catch that they showed on tv. these two TE's are basically the same at this point with no real pecking order.
Feels like all the top rated rookies fared well this week. So for the "do i cut bait crowd":
- Van Jefferson only had one catch, but 3 targets behind Woods & Kupp's 8 and 5. Not starter material yet and personally i don't see value here. He seems to have relegated Reynolds to last resort though, so there's that. Reynolds only saw one target.
- The other Jefferson had 3 targets behind Thielen and bisi. Bisi had 4 targets along with Mattison also at 4, so as far as pecking order he's not starter material as of yet.
- Bryan Edwards is buried in that offense. Did Ruggs get dinged up towards the end of that game? I thought I saw him on the med table, but didn't finish watching the game. It would take an injury or two for Edwards to get noticed over Ruggs and Waller. FWIW I wouldn't worry about Agholor. He sucks.
- Reagor... 4 targets but only one catch. I don't understand why they drafted a DJax clone and run him in the same route tree as DJax. At least one of the other targets could have been an easy 6 for 50+yards. Eagles got issues, but his prospects are pointing up.
Preston Williams is the guy to own in Miami, not Parker. He's a sneaky one who could actually be available in some shallow leagues.
edit: saw Swift's drop in the end zone last night and wanted to work that in here but doesn't belong here so deleted.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yeah I would like to hear what Miami fans think of him and the RB competition in Miami right now.
I recall Gaskin being a guy EBF liked as a rookie. He hasn't been able to ascend to time share snaps until now that I am aware of. He has managed to make a roster every year though so thats something.
From what I recall he has a pretty good athletic profile but I don't know much about him.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
I also thought Gage was a one week wonder, but then I saw this from ETR's Adam Levitan on Twitter:
Interesting, no?
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
More from Levitan on Twitter (I also saw someone else call Logan Thomas this year's Darren Waller. Maybe a stretch but..)
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Viska Shenault deserves more mention in this thread. Scored on one of his 3 receptions and added 2 carries. Hard to not see his snap share growing in weeks to come.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Interesting, yes. But seems like a typically inconsistent 3-wide WR stat-wise.
Gage has only one TD in his career...and 40% of those 10 games w/o Sanu have been complete duds: 5/27/0, 2/17/0, 2/32/0, 4/23/0.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Calvin Ridley missed 3 of those games (and got hurt during a 4th), and Julio Jones missed 1 of them (and got hurt during a 2nd).
4th&inches
Footballguy
Someone that might be worth a cheap stash with all the RB injuries is Devonta Freeman.
While I'm not personally high on him, on the right team/ gameplan, he could be a "Flex" with low RB2 upside.... and likely cost you nothing since he's not currently signed with a team.
Again... this is not to say I'd go out and waste much, if any FAAB on him. but someone to at least keep iny our back pocket.
While I'm not personally high on him, on the right team/ gameplan, he could be a "Flex" with low RB2 upside.... and likely cost you nothing since he's not currently signed with a team.
Again... this is not to say I'd go out and waste much, if any FAAB on him. but someone to at least keep iny our back pocket.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
habsfan
Footballguy
YoUnG GuNz
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Gage is worth having on your roster if you have room as he has shown ability in the past, but he is only really going to be someone you could possibly start if either Ridley or Jones goes down.
I can't believe that the Logan Thomas Experience might finally be here.
I can't believe that the Logan Thomas Experience might finally be here.
