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I apologize for asking but "too important" to what? To isolate? In other words, "I am willing to significantly increase the risk of spreading and contracting the virus because I will not sacrifice seeing my family for a lengthy period of time, despite that risk."
Yep that’s exactly what I mean. For example my parents recently had their 50th wedding anniversary. While we didn’t have a big party like we wanted we had a cookout with immediate family. 12 people total. Similar thing for my sons high school graduation earlier this summer.
Btw these are your words not mine. The people I’m seeing have been pretty careful like always masking up in public. While I agree there is a risk increase as opposed to not seeing them at all I wouldn’t call it significant. Not trying to pick a fight either just sharing our point of view. Plus from a mental health aspect we feel it’s important to see each other once in a while.
Everybody makes calculated risks for the benefit of their sanity.Pipes said:
Family cant get the covid. Same hot chicks not getting the Aids.Pipes said:
I had one delivered Monday. The guys were both wearing masks. I told them they could take them off as obviously they were having trouble breathing. I offered them waters as well and they thanked me for both gestures. The lead guy then says, "on our last delivery the home owner freaked out on me and said I 'cornered him' while bringing the furniture in, and exclaimed the delivery was supposed to be contact-less! I guess he wanted us to leave it on his lawn?"Osaurus said:
Answered no and no.
I'm one of the no/no posters--and I'll elaborate my views on this--but I'm just speaking for myself. I think that as more time passes--the better doctors and scientists get at learning how to treat this virus. If you look at the mortality rate now versus what it was just a few months ago--it's been dropping. Everytime a doctor treats a patient for covid and succeeds (and even when they don't succeed and the result is a fatality--rest in peace to all who have passed)--they are learning more about the disease and are sharing their findings. I don't need to see a vaccine to get back to a semblance of normalcy--as I think that there will be issues in those as well. However--once it becomes clear that doctors and scientists have a general handle on how to treat this disease and have developed ample experience treating it--I think at that time--I'll probably feel more comfortable going back to normal. In brutal honesty---i just don't trust anything our government is saying about it---the same that I didn't trust what the Chinese were saying about it in the very beginning--but I do trust the doctors. In my opinion--there is a high likelihood that most of us will get covid at some point in time--I think that's just an inevitable reality. However--I think we all can play a part in influencing when we get it by practice good and safe behaviors and habits. For me personally--I'd rather get it later than sooner--because with each passing day---I think more is getting learned about the virus and treatments are getting better.
My buddy is in HVAC. He wears a mask whenever he goes into people's homes. A few weeks back, he went to a mutual friend's house for a service call. The whole family was there. He wore a mask, they didnt. They immediately said, "you dont have to wear that!"... "please take it off!". He politely refused and kept his mask on. The next day, their daughter tested positive for COVID.
Is this dropping a function of elderly and at risk people being diligent where at the beginning a bunch of elderly and at risk were the biggest portion of those with the virus? And now younger and people without risk factors are getting infected and not getting the more serious cases so the mortality rate is dropping?
I think the mortality rate dropping is due to a lot of things. Sure--protecting the elderly from it and being diligent about that has certainly contributed to the drop. Secondly--I do know a lot of doctors and nurses (some that work in ER's, and I have a couple clients who are doctors that specialize in respiratory ailments) and they all tell me that as time passes--they seem to be learning more about how to treat the disease. They are putting people on ventilators less and are finding combinations of existing drugs that seem to work better at treating it based on the circumstances that each patient has (clotting issues, low levels of oxygen, etc). Also--I think the mortality rate is also dropping due less people having a large viral load. There have been many studies that indicate that the higher the viral load of covid one is exposed to--the more severe their case tends to be. While mask wearing is not a guarantee against getting covid--it certainly does play a part in reducing viral load---and therefore most likely plays a part in reducing the number of severe cases--which in turn reduces the mortality rate.
