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That's fair, but Wednesday notice for a Sunday game - especially when both teams have the same notice - doesn't seem that outrageous to me. Certainly not ideal but gives you at least 2-3 days to gameplan for an opponent. You lose out on the advance scouting, obviously. I agree that it would be a different matter if a decision were to be made on, say, Friday.
I think teams are going to be asked to make certain exceptions for this rare season
I asked rhetorically earlier what do people consider "against protocol?" As a for instance, it has been discussed locally on radio and TV in Boston that Cam Newton has been taking a chartered plane and flying to Atlanta to see his children. I don't know if that meets the league's protocol rules, but is going to see you own kids something the league should even be trying to regulate?
I don’t think you’re adequately taking into account the current logistics of trying to get a team and all their stuff to another city following the current protocols. It would not be an easy thing at all.
The League is investigating the possibility that Titans players have been meeting together outside the facility over the past week according to Mark Maske from the Washington Post on Twitter.
I know no one is going to feel badly for the Patriots, but if their game against the Broncos is still played, NE will have had very little practice time this week and most likely will be forced to play with a backup QB again. They had very little notice last week after Cam tested positive last week and were not allowed to practice after that. And they are not practicing again this week (at least so far). Bottom line, no matter how you slice it, things won't be "fair" for several teams when things start to go off the rails.
Players getting together for outside workouts doesn't seem like a risky thing if it's just the players and not at a lets say Golds gym.
This is a better point, though I would assume - perhaps wrongly - that the NFL should have protocols in place to ensure that appropriate hotel rooms, charter flights, etc., could be arranged in short-order. I think the biggest problem would be that Denver is at New England, whereas the Bills are at Denver. The equipment would be a logistical nightmare.
You can get sick going to the Supermarket even following protocols. The masks and distancing isn't foolproof.
Too expensive? For a $15+ Billion league? That always makes me laugh. Too expensive compared to shutting things down, or too expensive when comparing the cost of just pushing forward with the original dumb schedule that has worked so well for them so far and we are 1/4th through the schedule.
You and other Pats fans have to stop saying this, owners typically don't care who the team is as long as their players score. This myth of Pats hate you and a few others keep insinuating is insulting to those who look at things critically regardless of the team. You're the ones carrying the VHS-Gate, Inflate-Gate and any other Pats-Gate mantra around here, most have moved on and are just interested in 2020, I assure you. And I'll also share that since the Brady and BB split up, most have taken a side and are rooting for one of them right now to show the other one up, AND AND AND Cam Newton had many people forgetting their Patriot Bias quickly, he's infectious, literally.
What's so funny? These players are together for games, practices etc. So it's suddenly a huge issue if they are together outside a Titan's facility? That makes no sense.
I am laughing cause you don't know where they were hanging out at, how many others they were hanging with.., Yeah it's an issue. But your way of thinking is the reason this is still an issue 7 months later.
I don't think they are supposed to but they've been all over each other for 3 plus hours. I don't think a quick huge, fist bump is causing the problems.
Read the tweet it said for a workout. Yeah we don't know where but your assuming the worst I'm assuming the best. We both could be wrong but I'm not the one advocating for forfeits before we have all the fact.
That's not cool. You can't point an entire pandemic at one poster, Pipes is always a fair with others. Let it go and stick to football, there's a whole politics forum you can go have a MM session over there.
It's a good question, I wonder why they are congregating in the middle as well, I know they like to shake hands and also punch each other out after the game but maybe t=just this year they quietly go back to their locker rooms.
After exposure it takes 3-7 days to test positive. That would mean if Titans properly social distanced their positive tests should have ended no later then Monday. That they just had positive tests after 7 days means at least one of these 3 things is at play:
Only if they are doing stupid #### like the Raiders did. Just hanging out together if in a safe environment is like their own bubble situation. If you're around someone multiple hours a day at the Titan's facility how is it any different than hanging out with the same people, and only the same people somewhere else....it's not. Now if they were in a club or doing some other dumb stuff then yes I'd agree with you. And as of now there is absolutely 0 proof of that even with Grove's post. None.
Could easily be B since they aren't living in a bubble. This NFL "plan" was doomed from the get go with 100 plus players, coaches, and staff plus spouses and family. There is bound to be positive tests, actually a bit surprised it hasn't been more.
For the record, I have not moved on and I will continue to hate New England until the day I die. If there is an afterlife, I will keep hating them in the great beyond.You and other Pats fans have to stop saying this, owners typically don't care who the team is as long as their players score. This myth of Pats hate you and a few others keep insinuating is insulting to those who look at things critically regardless of the team. You're the ones carrying the VHS-Gate, Inflate-Gate and any other Pats-Gate mantra around here, most have moved on and are just interested in 2020, I assure you. And I'll also share that since the Brady and BB split up, most have taken a side and are rooting for one of them right now to show the other one up, AND AND AND Cam Newton had many people forgetting their Patriot Bias quickly, he's infectious, literally.
Cheers!
Unless their protocol is quarantine for two weeks like science suggests then they aren’t doing everything right. But that would impede with making billions off football.
I think the issue is more that it's the Titans-players-in-the-middle-of-an-outbreak went out more so than getting together for outside workouts. I believe the team was basically sent home and expected to isolate . . . and obviously getting together is not staying isolated.
There are several other problems with week 18 make-ups beyond the fantasy implications (which should not be a factor IMO):
Yes. It has to be impressed upon players, "Just because you're playing the game doesn't mean everything on this field carries on like normal."
For starters, I am aware the league will function and make determinations regardless of the team(s) involved. I was suggesting that football fans will have no sympathy for anything that does not go the Patriots way. I am not making this up . . . go to other sites that allow comments, people are dancing a jig that this is impacting NE.
This is the only one I'm not sure about. Diana Russini posted this morning that a Raider tested positive, Hurst got put on COVID list last night. So I'm not sure if she was reporting day old news like it was an update or it's someone other then Hurst.
All players and teams were alerted by the league before the season that there will be tough decisions handed down and considerations for competitive balance would essentially take a back seat to their decision making. The league's players had to agree to forgo guaranteed contracts and are only getting paid for games that are actually played. Any port in a storm. All's fair in love and war. Insert other war related terms here . . . winning the battle but losing the war, etc. While the NFLPA might have had the ability to fight things in the past, I don't believe they will have much influence this season.
It certainly is risky if one or more of them have Covid at the time. And with so many players being positive the right action was to assume that everyone did and quarantine from each other. It was the whole reason they were prevented from being at the facility. It defeated the entire purpose of the quarantine.
It can take up to 14 days to test positive after an exposure. Average incubation periods are 2-7 days which leads a lot of medical personnel to say that a 5 day incubation period is probably pretty close to being the average mean. However, you can be incubating the disease and testing negative for up to 14 days after exposure. Thus, if titans players have been getting together to work out after they were almost certainly exposed to the virus— a week or 9 days after the exposure- there absolutely is a chance that they are spreading the virus amongst each other
The counter is when they decided to not forfeit the season, what did you expect during a pandemic?
Yeah you're right. I was thinking in more general terms as not being risky since they are playing together, practicing etc but yeah if this was after the positive tests and when they were supposed to be in isolation then yes that's bad.
I still hate the Patriots. Of course I am a Bills fan so I think I am allowed.You and other Pats fans have to stop saying this, owners typically don't care who the team is as long as their players score. This myth of Pats hate you and a few others keep insinuating is insulting to those who look at things critically regardless of the team. You're the ones carrying the VHS-Gate, Inflate-Gate and any other Pats-Gate mantra around here, most have moved on and are just interested in 2020, I assure you. And I'll also share that since the Brady and BB split up, most have taken a side and are rooting for one of them right now to show the other one up, AND AND AND Cam Newton had many people forgetting their Patriot Bias quickly, he's infectious, literally.
Cheers!
Ya this is what I wonder too. Everyone is quick to say "what are these idiots doing" or "they better smarten up before they ruin the league". What exactly do we know they are doing wrong? The Titans all practiced together which we knew would happen. Maybe one of their players slept with his wife who got it at the grocery store. Or maybe someone's kid went to school and got it and hugged their dad who has been otherwise extremely careful to not get it. How can/should the nfl stop that from happening??
Tackling, shoving, holding, wrestling for a loose ball all ok.
There has been no information reported that these additional TEN players are sick. COVID-19 positive test does not equate to sick. Reports on Cam Newton that have gotten out or leaked out are that he is asymptomatic with no symptoms, therefore not sick.
If the NFL followed the CDC recommendations 100%, there would be no season.
It’s been hugs and close face-to-face conversations. There’s no getting away from tackling, but hugs and post game face-to-face conversations aren’t needed. You have to eliminate the unnecessary risks.
