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Pepe the frog (1 Viewer)

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I saw an interesting Frontline documentary about Pepe the frog. I’m sure he’s been mentioned here before, but he’s basically a cartoon frog adopted by 4chan as a meme representing comfort with being a misfit. He eventually became mainstream and was transformed into a symbol of the alt right. And of course our POTUS is included in all this, with the frog recreated in his image. Really dark and disturbing, with unexpected ties to 2016 election, mass shootings, hate groups and more recently, protests in Hong Kong.

 
My goodness, I hadn't heard about the controversial Pepe in years...

As I recall, there was a Pepe thread in the FFA, (which may have been deleted) and a few posters had a Pepe avatar for their account and had some other explanation for what it stood for (not alt-right, but I can't remember what exactly).

 
My goodness, I hadn't heard about the controversial Pepe in years...

As I recall, there was a Pepe thread in the FFA, (which may have been deleted) and a few posters had a Pepe avatar for their account and had some other explanation for what it stood for (not alt-right, but I can't remember what exactly).
I mean, it might have some play in some weird nooks and crannies of the Internet, but Pepe is pretty much a mainstay and icon of all major twitch stream chats. The mainstream usage has far surpassed any original negative symbolism.

 
There was a poster or two that had the frog as his avatar.  Chauncey?  Maybe another.  One of them went on :e: and said he couldn't wait to have sex with my wife and daughter (who was 4) because I was such a beta cuck.  Cool stuff.  

 
I mean, it might have some play in some weird nooks and crannies of the Internet, but Pepe is pretty much a mainstay and icon of all major twitch stream chats. The mainstream usage has far surpassed any original negative symbolism.
Did you watch the documentary? It sounds like it's been a struggle to overcome the negativity, with Pepe clarified as a hate symbol by the Anti-defamation league:

Pepe the Frog is a cartoon character that has become a popular Internet meme (often referred to as the "sad frog meme" by people unfamiliar with the name of the character). The character first appeared in 2005 in the on-line cartoon Boy's Club. In that appearance, the character also first used its catchphrase, "feels good, man."

The Pepe the Frog character did not originally have racist or anti-Semitic connotations. Internet users appropriated the character and turned him into a meme, placing the frog in a variety of circumstances and saying many different things. Many variations of the meme became rather esoteric, resulting in the phenomenon of so-called "rare Pepes."

The majority of uses of Pepe the Frog have been, and continue to be, non-bigoted. However, it was inevitable that, as the meme proliferated in on-line venues such as 4chan, 8chan, and Reddit, which have many users who delight in creating racist memes and imagery, a subset of Pepe memes would come into existence that centered on racist, anti-Semitic or other bigoted themes.

In recent years, with the growth of the "alt right" segment of the white supremacist movement, a segment that draws some of its support from some of the above-mentioned Internet sites, the number of "alt right" Pepe memes has grown, a tendency exacerbated by the controversial and contentious 2016 presidential election. Though Pepe memes have many defenders, the use of racist and bigoted versions of Pepe memes seems to be increasing, not decreasing.

However, because so many Pepe the Frog memes are not bigoted in nature, it is important to examine use of the meme only in context. The mere fact of posting a Pepe meme does not mean that someone is racist or white supremacist. However, if the meme itself is racist or anti-Semitic in nature, or if it appears in a context containing bigoted or offensive language or symbols, then it may have been used for hateful purposes.

In the fall of 2016, the ADL teamed with Pepe creator Matt Furie to form a #SavePepe campaign to reclaim the symbol from those who use it with hateful intentions.

 
I don't need to watch the documentary, I've been a 4chan user since I learned what the Internet was. Pepe is fine.
Then you’re probably aware it doesn’t have exactly the best rep on the internet - it would interesting see how accurate you believe their portrayal is. If I may ask, what attracted you to 4chan?

 
Then you’re probably aware it doesn’t have exactly the best rep on the internet - it would interesting see how accurate you believe their portrayal is. If I may ask, what attracted you to 4chan?
Hag is right. Pepe is pretty much beloved these days as a meme character that usually just expresses a feeling. It's matured long after it's 4chan adoption. 

 
Then you’re probably aware it doesn’t have exactly the best rep on the internet - it would interesting see how accurate you believe their portrayal is. If I may ask, what attracted you to 4chan?
I genuinely think the rep is blown out of proportion. It's unfortunate it might have been co-opted for a time, but it has not been a threat to anyone for a long while. Today, with the authority of an official Internet historian, I declare it harmless.

What attracted me to 4chan is my age. I am an older millennial, I think I first used 4chan way back when it was created because I was in high school and doing what teenage boys do - the site was created in 2003 and I know I had used the site before I graduated high school in 2005. I pretty much ignored it for most of my college years, but did stick around the couple of topics I liked, mainly /tg/. To me it was never a place to be a regular, merely a place to browse and giggle at the boundless humor, some a bit more regretful chuckles as I look back on it (I think I've matured since then). There are some real loser topics that have evolved there like /pol/, which I fully acknowledge are places for users to be awful, even if it has become site meta to use tags in the more contentious spaces. Election time is pretty fun.

I would not call myself the average user (I'm sure I have at least 20x the posts here that I do there), but I think mostly I stuck around because I found it nifty to see the origin of so many memes, one of which being the frog in question.

 
I genuinely think the rep is blown out of proportion. It's unfortunate it might have been co-opted for a time, but it has not been a threat to anyone for a long while. Today, with the authority of an official Internet historian, I declare it harmless.

What attracted me to 4chan is my age. I am an older millennial, I think I first used 4chan way back when it was created because I was in high school and doing what teenage boys do - the site was created in 2003 and I know I had used the site before I graduated high school in 2005. I pretty much ignored it for most of my college years, but did stick around the couple of topics I liked, mainly /tg/. To me it was never a place to be a regular, merely a place to browse and giggle at the boundless humor, some a bit more regretful chuckles as I look back on it (I think I've matured since then). There are some real loser topics that have evolved there like /pol/, which I fully acknowledge are places for users to be awful, even if it has become site meta to use tags in the more contentious spaces. Election time is pretty fun.

I would not call myself the average user (I'm sure I have at least 20x the posts here that I do there), but I think mostly I stuck around because I found it nifty to see the origin of so many memes, one of which being the frog in question.
What constitutes a long while? The video makes it seem like Pepe has been used by the alt right quite a bit since Trump’s election.

 

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