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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    To some degree. Luther didn't want to create a new church, just clean a few things up. But things don't always go as planned. Luther also struggled with the simple fact that no matter what he did, he would still be sinner. That is when he really dug into scripture. Eventually Luther...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    While the protestant reformation was bound to happen as soon as Guttenberg made being a scribe a dead-end career, it was the work of another guy few have ever heard of to raise funds for the construction of St. Peters that was ultimately the spark. Johann Tetzel. And while of course the...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Well, I mentioned it a day or two ago after a "I trust the church" kind of statement. Reformation Day celebrates in some protestant churches, those somewhat ironically that are still close in many aspects to the Catholic Church the day that Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door and...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    It is reformation day after all. You need this extra time to sell those indulgences while you still can. (And for those that take things a bit too literally around here, I'm not actually suggesting @dgreen has any kind of belief system or financial stake in indulgences.)
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    I for one would rather you stuck around. It can be hard to get your bearing in the FFA as there are just too many people that are just too damn smart here. This is not the end of the bar where you say things and people just nod in agreement. Well, I guess there are plenty of such threads, but...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    When worlds collide! I think that the free half of the Bart Ehrman blog post is sort of relevant to the stuff being discussed today, at least where I have ventured into the waters. Below the paywall it is about how he teaches his classed as if truth is truth no matter what a person might...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    That is what I meant by "deep level" vs "shallow". On the surface where much of life operates, we can communicate just fine and "know" things to function. But when we get into deeper thought, deeper conversations our individuality starts getting in the way. Most people would say our...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    I do enjoy Bart Ehrman's blog. It takes a bit getting used to the aspect that he writes a thousand words or so at a time and maybe 50 actually say something new, but you get these nuggets. As for Ecclesiastes, it is a favorite of many. Both believers and non-believers. Whether it...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Okay outside of math? Hume was the guy that was a so-so starting pitcher in the late seventies that became a really good reliever for two or three years until he blew out his knee? While I enjoyed the philosophical writings in western political theory, I was bored out of my mind with the...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Why Ecclesiastes? Because like Job, but without the baggage this book of the bible describes the human condition such that this life is all there is. There is no afterlife where things might be made right. I think that this is very clear in both cases. At least from a text only reading of...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Because ultimately you cannot really know anything? You can only develop a degree of confidence that what you think, believe is the overwhelmingly most plausible choice? So, everything is ultimately belief? Is this close? I'll confess that I only read the first post and not the rest of the...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Add "refuse to answer" to agnostic and I think you have how it is generally used by the masses. Which if it lasted long enough would ultimately be the dictionary answer. But the future culturally defined dictionary entry isn't really the context the discussion has been using. And really the...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    Yes, my question was in response to your post- You were speaking about "God" (at least what I quoted) not any god (like money or fame or Zeus). I was speaking of believers [of God]. I mean everyone believes in gods and know they exists if we define the word correctly. If we merely define...
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    I think we're going with Baal at this point. Biblical and all. ETA: Adding link.
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    A Prayer Of Salvation

    This is nitpicky. But once you capitalize the "G" in God, it no longer means a god.
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