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  1. On 5/7/2020 at 2:49 PM, EBF said:

    Lots of classes have been heavier at the top. There were no RB/WR drafted in the top 10 this year. There's no obvious elite level WR/RB/TE prospect.

    Bad teams draft RB's and WR's in the top 10.  Basing the talent of this class on that makes no sense.  The rankings seem tone deaf on recognizing the difference between this class and past classes.

  2. 2 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

    I’m mostly with you because I tend to side with RB vs WR in dynasty rookie drafts since I like to think of a short term window but I think if you just always take the young WR with 1st round capital over the old RB with 3rd round draft capital, you likely end up on the right end of it over the long term. 

    Agreed.  I was mostly annoyed with Freedman's lack of analysis.  Don't even get me started on him saying Kerryon Johnson could be better than Swift because they were taken by the same team at a similar draft spot.  

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  3. 18 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

    My guess is 1st round WRs bust a lot less often than 3rd RBs

    Of course.  That being said, there is no context to it.  I had no problem taking Kamara and Hunt over Mike Williams when they landed in KC and New Orleans.  Landing in the right spot matters.  It's why CEH just went from 5th to 1st on a lot of people's draft boards.  Vaughn has a chance to explode in that offense within a division where defense is optional.

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  4. 19 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:


    I don’t think advocating to take 21 year old WRs drafted in the first round over 23 year old RBs drafted in the third round is “immediately writing Vaughn off.”  You seem offended by what is very likely to be sound, logical advice.

    It's more about Freedman's logic overall than any one individual RB.  He is also advocating taking all the 1st round WR's except Aiyuk over every RB except CEH and Taylor based strictly off draft capital.  I guess 1st round WR's never bust.  Not to mention he's tweaking his narrative by saying Vaughn is 23 when he hasn't actually turned 23 yet.

  5. 17 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

    How does stating that Vaughn is a 23 year old 3rd round RB “skip” any of that other stuff you’re hung up on.  A 23 year old 3rd round RB actually seems a quite accurate descriptive for what Vaughn is, no?

    The point is that he very well could have been an early declare had he not transferred.  If he stayed home and was with Vandy from the start he very easily could have been an early declare.  Immediately writing him off because he's 23 is just ridiculous.

  6. 2 hours ago, Dr. Dan said:

    Sweden didnt shut anything down, France did. It didnt seem to make any difference in either country. I'm optimistic that we will take what we learn as time goes on and apply it, and start to open up venues, such as nfl stadiums.

    This seems to be worst on public transportation, yet that's one thing we keep open. it cant survive very long outside. I dont expect Georgia to have some major outbreak. When we see these things, I just hope we learn from them and accept the facts that come from them. 

    there's a lot of new information out there you wont get by watching the news. Information that destroys the models that we have been working off of with these policies. I'm optimistic but I realize I am barking up the wrong tree with the crowd in here. Many of you are on the east coast where theres a heavy reliance on public transportation, which is where this is spread the worst. 

    If i can get just one person to actually look at the facts we have learned within the last 2 weeks, then that would be wonderful.

    Hospitals are going bankrupt and furloughing staff... during a health crisis... almost sounds like an Onion headline. 

    Remember when I said you're wrong 99.9% of the time when you said compensatory draft picks don't matter by pointing out that all of the successful franchises own the majority of those picks, then you threw a hissy and had me banned for two weeks over it...yeah you're gonna need to ban me again I guess because like I said in that post you are wrong 99.9% of the time.  Mods need to read the ridiculous content before throwing out bans.  This crap he is spewing at this point is dangerous.

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  7. I'm seeing Matthew Freedman out here spewing trash like "don't draft a 3rd round 23 year old RB over a 1st round 21 year old WR."  From the bland lazy analysis I guess this seems correct, but it skips the fact that Vaughn's sophomore year was a bust cuz Lovie Smith gonna Lovie Smith.  Vaughn had a solid freshman year after being Mr Football in Tennessee.  He then transferred from Illinois and lost another year.  I'm not advocating taking Vaughn over the top notch WR's by any means, but someone should let him know that Vaughn only had 12 less receptions than Ruggs last year.  I can't stand someone bashing a prospect with baseless analysis.

  8. 23 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

    He's a 3-down type player that was drafted early in the 3rd round to a great offense and a coach that likes to use a lead RB in a big way (along with a QB that likes throwing to the RB).  That's basically the exact same scenario (or even better) as guys like David Montgomery, Darrell Henderson, and Royce Freeman who all settled in around the mid-1st round range (early 1st in Montgomery's case).

    Montgomery wasn't drafted into a great offense and his PPR ceiling was always an issue with Cohen on the roster.

    Henderson was not drafted into an idea situation no matter how many times people wished that he was.

    Freeman landed in a good offense?  The offense was horrific and he was the wrong fit for their blocking scheme.


    Being the more versatile RB in an offense with Brady, Arians, and WR's that will keep defenders out of the box is  far from any of those landing spots of those RB's.

  9. 15 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

    I didn't say the second half of the season (which you cherry picked and removed a game from) was an MVP performance; I was refuting your contention that he was awful over the back half of the season.  Do you stand by your contention that he was awful in the back half of the season?

    Do you contend that a 5-3 record with losing 3 of the last 4 games and slipping from a playoff bye to a 5 seed seed while scoring 12 and 13 points in weeks 14 and 16 against the Rams and Cardinals is a strong 2nd half of the season? 


    And yes you are the one that started this stupidity by claiming Wilson would have been MVP if you took away Lamar's rushing.  Russell Wilson has quickly went from being the most underrated QB to the most overrated QB.

  10. 47 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

    Not, not a runaway, but that was JustWinBaby's argument, not mine.  i have simply pointed out that Jackson had a much better team around him than Wilson.  I am not sure that is even debatable, but it's the Shark Pool where everything is up for debate. ;)

    With all due respect, to say I am making no sense and then saying Wilson was awful during the back half of the season was awful seems a "pot calling the kettle black" situation, unless you think a QB going 5-3 over an 8-game stretch with 14 touchdowns and 4 interceptions is awful.  Also, the Ravens were a .500 team (10-10) in the 20 games prior to Jackson starting, FYI, so it is not unfair to say that the Ravens would have still been a .500 team in 2019 without him, especially given the division in which they played (Bengals awful, Browns being the Browns again, Steelers missing Ben for most of the season).

    The Ravens played against the entire NFC West last year and swept them, so SOS goes out the window right there.  Lamar had 8 passing TD's in 4 games against the NFC West.  Wilson had 9 TD's in 6 games, and both the Seattle and San Fran games were played in an absolute monsoon (both players stats were down due to the weather in the game against each other, but WIlson threw a pick-six).  Wilson actually only threw for 9 TD's and 4 INT's in his final seven games.  You know when you looked up those 2nd half stats it was all driven by that 5 TD game against the dumpster fire Bucs secondary.  If you insist on weighing your argument on Wilson being great in the 2nd half of the year on that game alone it's laughable, but even then 14 TD passes in an 8 game span isn't sniffing an MVP performance.  In those final 7 games where he threw only 9 TD's he faced Philly, Carolina, and Arizona...terrible secondarys...and managed just 4 TD passes.  If the MVP voting was on passing only it would not have been Wilson winning it.  It may not have been Lamar, but there's no chance it was Wilson.

  11. 42 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

    Snead has his 4th best NFL season (of 5) in 2019 based off yards and catches, and Seth Roberts did better all four of his prior seasons in Oakland than he did in 2019.  How is that elevating them?   Was Boykin that bad of a 3rd round pick that getting 13-198-3 out of him as a rookie is considered a positive for Lamar??   Also, Mark Ingram, who was a Pro Bowler while in New Orleans, is an "eh" player?  Look, Jackson had a great season, but let's not act like he turned water into wine or that he was playing with mostly scrubs.  He was on a team LOADED with talent.

    You point out he had talent all around him and proceed to give us a who's who of garbage talent that won't be in the league in 2-3 years that he didn't elevate.  You're making no sense whatsoever.  Claiming the Ravens would still be a .500 team without Lamar (which they weren't in the previous 20 something games before he took over) when they had a 14-2 record is also a mind boggling argument to make.  So he is 6 games above replacement level?  That is what makes you the MVP.


    And save me the Russell Wilson worship.  He was awful during the back half of the season and single-handedly cost them a couple games.

  12. 1 hour ago, menobrown said:

    Hearing this brought up and don't agree.

    Cooks had his most yards and second most catches with Rams. Health was his issue with them this year and why they wanted to shed him, not sure how getting traded helps with that.

    And I don't see what in his game is any better then Fuller's game to say he's the clear #1. Both are kind of similar to me, speed guys who got big time injury concerns.

    Fuller just had his career best year...49 for 670 and 3 TD's.  Cooks had 4 straight 1,000 yard seasons and is only 6 months older than Fuller.  Nothing close to the same level of players.

  13. 19 minutes ago, Tool said:

    Wouldn’t just a random draft for order next year be the obvious solution?

    I'm in leagues where a lot of 2021 picks have already been traded.  I would assume it would need to go to an auction style with the budget of every 1st being the 1.06, the budget of every 2nd being the 2.06, and so on.  There are charts to convert picks to auction dollars.

  14. 1 minute ago, Dr. Dan said:

    20 years is recent history? 


    That's where I walk away from this discussion 

    Thank tha LAWD you are....cuz you post 5,000 times a day and are wrong 4,999 times a day.  The history of comp picks and winning franchises is staring you in the face.  If you think that isn't "Modern history" then show me a list of multiple Super Bowl appearance franchises that aren't on that list outside of the Broncos bringing in Manning during that time span.  Disputing 20 years as not modern is funny when 12 of the last 20 Super Bowls appearances have been from the franchises i mentioned.  What time span do you want to cut this down to to be right???...I have your answer, IT'S ONE F'N YEAR, DOC.

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