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  1. 5 hours ago, NFL2DF said:

    Such an ignorant post. 

    For those at home, this is what a troll looks like.

    So full of hate and ignorance.

    Joe demonstrates a lot of tolerance for allowing you to keep posting this garbage.

    I was describing our POTUS, so yes.

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  2. 28 minutes ago, NCCommish said:

    Well again I would use the metric Jesus himself set forth. Does the candidate you are preparing to vote for support housing the homeless or does he support laws that criminalize them? Does the candidate support reform to our needlessly brutal prison system or does he support making it even more draconian? Does he support healing the sick or does he support making it harder for people to get medical care perhaps to the point they die from lack of access? Does he support doing things to raise up th poor or does he compare them to animals while raising up the rich? Is your candidate corrupt in his service of money and power or isn't he? You can make it hard or if you are really trying to live a Christ like life it's pretty easy. You can't get perfect people but you can get people who are on point policy wise.

    Christ never mentioned homosexuality, guns or abortion when he told you what you needed to be doing on Earth to enter heaven after his judgement. If you give earthly power to people not pursuing those things he did mention well then you may find yourself in the wrong line.

    :goodposting: (except for the Jesus stuff)

  3. Why would anyone who doesn't fit Trump's very narrow definition of who he cares about support him?

    If you are:

    • Black
    • Female
    • Non-Christian
    • LBGTQ
    • Middle class or lower economically
    • Have any health problems
    • Liberal

    If you are any of the above, Trump doesn't care about you.  He only cares about:

    • White
    • Male
    • Christian
    • Straight
    • Wealthy
    • Healthy
    • Conservatives
    • Who kiss his ###

    20% of households make over $100,000 per year, so right there we have 80% that shouldn't support Trump.  Add in gender, and you're up to 90% non-support.  Of the 10% left, how many are black, or non-Christian, or gay, or have health problems?

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  4. I'll just go ahead and add this as #7 on my list of immoral acts by Trumpublicans

    This guy really does want to transform the greatest democracy in the world into an authoritarian dictatorship.  Do his supporters not see that, or do they, again, just not care because they are on the side with power, and they aren't the ones being threatened with being locked up or beaten up for their political beliefs?

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  5. Found these statistics interesting and relevant here:


    I was a bit surprised to see the diversity of political leanings among the religious.

    This is the statistic that I had in my head:  GOP remains about 73% white Christian

    So, being religious doesn't automatically mean you're a Republican, but being a Republican pretty much means you're religious, in fact Christian, in fact white Christian.

  6. 2 minutes ago, dgreen said:

    I believe the Christian Republican (or Republican Christian) retort would be: Is the reverse also true? If you vote for a democrat, aren't you helping enable their immoral behavior? Endorsing it? Or, at least saying you don't care if they do these things? Does that make casting that vote an immoral act in and of itself?

    You may see one as worse than the other - and maybe one is truly worse than the other - but nobody is without sin. Politics can be a dark world and many times there are no good choices for people who want to cast a vote for God (if such a thing even exists). Assuming abstaining from voting is off the table, a decision has to be made. I wouldn't use that choice alone to make a judgment about what I think of the voter's morality or character. I know a Christian man who voted for Roy Moore. I don't get it, but I do believe he's a good man. I have a good sense of where is heart is in many parts of life so that weighs more than the single vote he cast to shape my view of my friend.

    I have a much bigger problem with Christians who justify some things Trump does than I do for whether or not they vote for him. A vote can be so much more complicated than whether you refuse to clearly denounce actions like grabbing a woman by the #####.


    Yeah, I guess I don't get it.  What immoral behavior have you seen out of Democrats lately?  If we started a list, I'm pretty sure one would be a WHOLE LOT longer than the other.  In fact, here's a quick start to such a list:

    Immoral acts by Democrats:

    1. I'm assuming most Christians would put legalized abortion here, and I'm guessing that could be what you were hinting at?

    Immoral acts by Republicans:

    1. Sexual assault
    2. Racism
    3. Misogyny
    4. Child abuse (family separations)
    5. Mocking people with disabilities, victims of sexual assault, etc.
    6. Money laundering, lying to the FBI and certainly more to come from Mueller

    I'll stop there, but you get my point.  It's not like you can hold your nose, and look past one infraction.  We're talking about a long list of horrible moral offenses.  I guess I don't see how anyone can justify the trade-off needed to go ahead and endorse someone like that.  I guess there are the one-issue abortion voters, but that's a separate discussion (why do Republicans care so much about an unborn child and yet turn their backs on them as soon as they pass through the birth canal?  And why do they refuse to support sex education and birth control if they fear unwanted pregnancies?)

  7. 5 hours ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

    As for political parties I don't think there is any choice right now where a Christian should align.  It is one thing when the "compassionate conservatives" argued that using government wasn't the most effective way to take care of God's children.  Even argued that government involvement got in the way.  But it is quite another when a party actively promotes selfish, hateful ideas to promote one set of people - themselves at the expense of others.  Maybe once Christians and all decent people stick a fork in these deplorable ideas we can return to having honest debate on how to best take care of the "least among us", but that is not today! 

    I've had this question on my mind the last few days, and found this thread is a good place to pose it:  is it immoral to vote for Republicans this November?

    I was raised in a Catholic, Republican household, and I credit my upbringing (at least in part) with instilling in me a certain moral compass.  I'm struggling with how some of my family members who I thought had similar morals are still planning to vote Republican in the mid-terms.

    To be clear, I firmly believe there is no longer a Republican party that doesn't fully endorse and enable Donald Trump.  Together, Trump and his GOP supporters have enabled/incited racism, separated children from their parents on a mass scale, sexually assaulted women and bragged about it, and now put an attempted rapist on the Supreme Court.

    I could go on, and we can debate each one of these, but I think its pretty clear that the party of Trump has no moral compass.  They only care about themselves and their bank statements.  So, if you vote for them again this November, aren't you helping enable their immoral behavior?  Endorsing it?  Or, at least saying you don't care if they do these things?  Does that make casting that vote an immoral act in and of itself?

  8. 8 hours ago, dkp993 said:

    Will he or should he, two very different questions.  It’s a virtual certainty he will, Dems really can’t stop it.  Should he, now that’s worthy of debate. 

    A guy who thinks that contraception is abortion is way too extreme to be sitting on the Supreme Court.  But yes, he'll probably get there - until Trump is impeached and, if found guilty of treason, the Dems push to annul everything he did while in office.  Illegitimate POTUS = 2 illegitimate SCOTUS appointees.

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  9. 14 hours ago, pecorino said:

    This kind of thing happens now and then (there was a church outside Chicago with a similar phenomenon and several claims of healing miracles a while back). I take it from your response that you’re either skeptical or more likely just flat out believe that it’s a hoax perpetrated by a churchgoer or a member of the clergy. If we’re going to rely on rationalism, which I’m all for, I’d love to see these kinds of claims truly scientifically tested. In other words, who is filming it and analyzing the tape? Can the liquid be analyzed and traced? Etc. I want a scientist to apply the scientific method to refute these kinds of claims if they are indeed hoaxes rather than just assuming they are bunk or not.


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  10. 1 hour ago, Captain Cranks said:

    I very much look forward to the day when these Bronze-aged religions are viewed by society as being no different than Ancient Egyptians worshiping the sun.  Unfortunately, despite the fact that we live in the information age, I don't think it will happen in my lifetime.    


    40 minutes ago, Boston said:

    Politics has become a worse cult...

    It will happen eventually.  The time needed is inversely correlated with the amount of power the GOP has.

    (BTW, I grew up religious and Republican.  I've wised up and left both. :thumbup:

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  11. 10 hours ago, bro1ncos said:

    Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

    Except I think it can be changed if he sends a copy of himself down here to Earth so he can sacrifice himself to himself, stay dead for a weekend, and then go back home.  It's kind of a like a reboot that's a little easier on us than another global flood.

  12. 17 hours ago, MAC_32 said:

    Not exactly. This school just awards very poorly. Which is unfortunately kind of common. I wouldn't be surprised if they low balled you to start but nothing additional smells of incompetence. 

    Does he have any backup options? 

    Yes, the example I gave was his top choice.  It's out of state, which is why it's more expensive.  He is now down to deciding between 2 in-state schools, but they gave even less in scholarship and so far, the same goose egg on financial aid.  It just doesn't seem like all of his hard work in high school is worth a damn.

    I did call the first school and talked to them for 15-20 minutes.  It did not sound like they were low-balling.  They gave no indication that there was any chance of more coming.

  13. On ‎11‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 8:20 PM, CowboysFromHell said:

    I'm sure the answer to my question is buried within these 19 pages, so apologies in advance.

    I'll use a real example to illustrate (my son's top college choice).  Tuition+room/board = $45,000.  He's already heard back that he's getting $11,000 from a merit-based scholarship, which brings us down to $34,000.  FAFSA is pending.  Let's say they come back with an expected family contribution of $20,000.   Would that then imply he has $25,000 in need, of which $11,000 is already taken care of, so financial aid would equal $14,000?

    What I don't get, and I think is bull#### if I'm right about this, is his scholarship is pretty much worthless.  An average C student, who qualifies for no merit-based scholarships, but has the same financial profile, would be in exactly the same boat.  $45,000 cost of attendance.  $20,000 expected family contribution.  Equals $25,000 in financial aid.  End result is the same.  The family is on the hook for $20,000 in both cases.

    So, what's the point in taking 10 AP classes in high school, a 4.0+ GPA, and 34 on the ACT?  It sounds like it ends up meaning nothing.

    I hope I'm wrong about this.

    Well, yes, I was wrong on the above.  Now that I am seeing this all play out, it's still bull####, but it's just a different flavor of bull####.

    With an EFC of around $11,000, and the above need of $34,000, my son is getting exactly zero financial aid.  He's been offered subsidized & unsubsidized loans, but those have to be paid back, so basically no real help.  This is for a student that has a >4.0 average, AP scholar, 34 on the ACT, athlete, part-time job, community service, etc.

    What's worse, it looks like even if the EFC were zero, that would only get him a maximum of $5,000 Pell grant.  Financial aid/FAFSA is a joke.

    Bottom line.  College is for rich people.  :rant:

  14. 1 minute ago, Fat Drunk and Stupid said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago

    Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

    It only took 13 months for him to make 1 intelligent, humble tweet. Merry Christmas!

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  15. 45 minutes ago, drummer said:

    Well, Trump is implementing the conservative agenda well, with his judiciary appointments, immigration, deregulation, executive orders (that some are meant to scale back the over reach of the prior administration), etc., etc. The issue here is he is also letting in all kinds of corruption in along with it, and that he is pretty much a moron when it comes to, well, everything. 

    But he is towing the conservative agenda. So conservatives should be happy with him up to the point where he really screws up things for them, and that most likely will happen. 

    Yep. Party before country. That's where we are.

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