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  1. Um unless the NFL changed its rules, it a hoax. http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml NFL nixes draft picks for coaches Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden. By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer © St. Petersburg Times published January 17, 2003 TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success. Now such a deal is against league rules. The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said. Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft. The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade. The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract. Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago. But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed. McKay declined comment Thursday. The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix. The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts. Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams. In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game. In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title. This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants. After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract. First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager. That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden. Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.
  2. Really good podcast from former Browns scout breaking down the top rated QB prospects from this draft and what his opinion is of the Browns plans. Very good listen, possibly the best I've come accross so-far pertaining to the Browns taking a QB with the top pick. http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/20/chris-landry-on-qbs-in-draft-none-of-them-are-ready-right-now-need-development/ Chris Landry on QBs in Draft: “None of Them Are Ready Right Now, Need Development”February 20, 2014 6:03 PM
  3. Grossi's first mock. Don't think the real NFL draft will play-out as he has it in this version but I think its very-possible that the two picks he has for the Browns 'could' be correct. http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=28971 Tony Grossi's Mock Draft 1.0: Browns tab a quarterback not named Johnny and a cornerback in first roundINDIANAPOLIS For those who can’t get enough of the NFL draft, this is your year. Because of a scheduling conflict with Radio City Music Hall in New York City, the NFL draft was moved into May for the first time. The draft will be held May 8-10, rather than in April, as has been custom for dozens of years. The end result is the draft season has been extended two weeks. That means more speculation, more rumors, more disinformation, and more mock drafts. Today we kick off draft season with our first mock draft. We will have a new version every Friday and then conclude with our final one on Thursday, May 8 – the day of the first round of the draft. That’s the one that will serve as our official prediction of the first round. Until then, these mocks will trace the ups and downs of the draft process as the Browns, and other teams, meander their way to the finish line. Our mocks do not consider the possibility of trades. If trades occur prior to May 8, we will react accordingly. 1. Houston: QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M He will win over new coach Bill O’Brien and energize the Texans' fan base. 2. St. Louis: OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M First shocker. Jeff Fisher will break in Bruce Matthews’ son at right tackle. 3. Jacksonville: DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina Second shocker. Jags go defense and plot to take a QB in second round. 4. Cleveland: QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida In a squeaker, his size wins out. Big Blake joins the AFC North. 5. Oakland: QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville Yes, it would be a big surprise if he slides to this spot. 6. Atlanta: OT Greg Robinson, Auburn The Falcons couldn’t script this any better. 7. Tampa Bay: WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson A future No. 1 to complement Vincent Jackson. 8. Minnesota: LB Khalil Mack, Buffalo Maybe they’ve learned not to reach for a quarterback. 9. Buffalo: TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina Time to support QB EJ Manuel with an intermediate target. 10. Detroit: CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State This seems like a natural. 11. Tennessee: WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M Ken Whisenhunt’s Larry Fitzgerald? 12. N.Y. Giants: OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA Time for the G-men to replenish their defensive front seven. 13. St. Louis: WR Marqise Lee, Southern California Their receivers are still awful. 14. Chicago: DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame Don’t they always go for the Golden Domers? 15. Pittsburgh: FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville Fills the hole left after aging Ryan Clark leaves in free agency. 16. Dallas: DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State The Cowboys' defensive front is an affront. 17. Baltimore: ILB C.J. Mosley, Alabama There is a void in the middle of the Ravens’ defense that needs to be filled. 18. NY Jets: WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State They are so desperate for a play-maker at receiver. 19. Miami: OT Zack Martin, Notre Dame Let the rebuilding of the offense line – and locker room – commence. 20. Arizona: OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan This isn’t brain surgery. They need offensive line help. 21. Green Bay: DT Rashede Hageman, Minnesota Packers have issues on defense. 22. Philadelphia: FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama What’s so funny? 23. Kansas City: WR Odell Beckham Jr., Louisiana State Chiefs are desperate for receivers to make plays. 24. Cincinnati: DE Kony Early, Missouri Bengals probably will lose pass rusher Michael Johnson in free agency. 25. San Diego: OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama More help needed on the offensive line. 26. Cleveland: CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State He would allow Buster Skrine to stay exclusively inside. Feb 21, 2014 -- 9:15am
  4. He does look bigger here. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1966571-video-shows-teddy-bridgewater-looking-bigger-and-stronger-leading-up-the-combine?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national#articles/1966571-video-shows-teddy-bridgewater-looking-bigger-and-stronger-leading-up-the-combine Video Shows Teddy Bridgewater Looking Bigger and Stronger Leading Up to Combine By Jake Silver , Social Media Staff
  5. John McClaine spent some time getting to know John Football. He wants the Texans to take him #1. http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/article/Manziel-fills-the-bill-of-No-1-draftee-5243235.php?t=df9eff65bbcc308649#/0
  6. When I read this, where Mayock gushes over how much he enjoyed the tape on Manziel it made me wonder about how much of the 'excitement factor' elevates him over a more mundane QB prospect who moves his team in a boring or a more conventional manner. I would imagine if part of our job was to sit and watch tape for hours and hours and hours, seeing the same thing over and over again that when you see a tape that is totally different and in Mayock's own words. "Wow, that was awesome." and "I really enjoyed it." I have to question how much the 'wow factor' might make an evaluator overlook negative aspects or if the 'wow factor' makes an evaluator discount a play that has the same outcome but wasn't exciting. Exciting plays are great but if a boring/mundane/conventional play produces the same result then I'm not sure how to value the 'wow factor'.
  7. Good news. Grossi says new GM Ray Farmer will try to re-sign both Pro Bowl cener Alex Mack AND SS T.J. Ward. http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=28591
  8. Josh Gordon was on ESPN's Highly Questionable program. Pretty good interview. I'm sure Gordon fans will enjoy. Good stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRXfchgmeNI Josh Gordon on Highly Questionable
  9. KC replaced Pioli and they fired Romeo Crennel but they turned things around and won ten games. The key was that they had a talented roster and they found an 'adequate' starting QB. Its hard to win without talent and at least an 'adequate' starting QB moreso than having continuity without that core of talented players.
  10. Octo, I replied to your post because the national media is behind Cleveland fans. They take the lead in bashing Cleveland, making Cleveland the butt of all jokes and typically they have lsupport from Cleveland fans but not in this case. In this case Browns fans were soo far out in front of the national media who made a false assumption that this was a bad move. So we probably don't agree if you see this latest move as a loss of continuity. I apologize to you if any part of my reply was not polite. -- My take on Mike Lombardi. Very bright. Very-VERY bright guy. Not joking. Knows how to crunch lots of information and knows book on just about every NFL player, not just the starters but end of bench and practice squad guys. Had burned bridges in places he's worked and had poisoned the well in Cleveland so he was behind the 8-ball from the start. Was sheltered from the media and Banner didn't even give hiim the GM title until Banner hired Ray Farmer from KC and had to promote Rat to assistant GM in order to get him so Lombardi had to get kicked upstairs. Lombardi heard the Ray Farmer rumors and thought he was going to get kicked upstairs again and take over Banner's job so he got blind-sided. One of the reasons why many questioned his personnel ability is he was out of the league for five years and he never really took part in any truly successful draft. Belichick hired him so he lands on his feet. Very bright guy who had stumped for Josh McDaniels and had a hot-line into the Patriots front office. Joe Banner. Super brilliant. He is the guy behind the rookie salary cap and that is why the NFL loves him He's saved the billionaires tons of money and he is the guy who has put more money into their pockets than anyone in this decade. Keep hearing that he was the guy behind the Andy Ried hire in Philly. He had the final power over the roster and the draft and was the buffer between the owner and front office. Lost power struggle in Philly as did Reid but when he left town some reporters and others who said anything bad about him found themselves in hot water. Jeff Laurie, owner of the Eagles had to threaten a libel lawsuit publically when lots of rumors emerged but after that public tiff Joe and Jeff made public overtures that every thing was ok and those rumors stopped. It has been reported by Eagle beat writers and others that Joe has a vindictive streak and it seemed that way with those rumors last year. Bottom line with Joe and Mike. Their value to the Browns and to any organization is they know how to crunch numbers and they know how to time when to get rid of players. Banner was hated in Philidelphia for cutting popular veteran players. When he building the Browns he got rid of popular veteran players, see K Phil Dawson, and in free agency he favored younger guys over more experienced veterans, see the free agency signing of CB Chris Owens over CB Brent Grimes. Owens wasn't nearly as good and turned into a liability whereas Grimes went to the Pro Bowl. And the timing of the Trent Richardson trade was all Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi. They really are smart guys and they set us up extremely well with the cap and building the team with young guys and draft picks but their actual draft selections were eh. Their free agent signings were 'ok' but they didn't hit any home runs. Why do I like Ray Farmer? Well he not only has worked his way up from a scout but he played in the NFL and he is the only guy in the Kansas City front office that Scott Pioli kept on-board when he took over. Add the KC front office had many successful drafts during the time that Ray Farmer was a key component of that front office. My reasoning has no bearing on whether or not Ray will be successful with the Browns but I didn't see that with Lombardi or Banner. Lombardi and Banner did not show that they knew how to unearth talented players and that is far more important for an NFL GM. I have much more condidence in Ray Farmer's ability to find talented players. Ray's first move was to hire Bill Kuharich and I love that move. Here is an interview that Vic Carrucci did with Bill a couple of years ago. Very interesting interview since Bill was commenting on the Browns upcoming draft where the Browns held two first-round draft picks and were in the market to get a QB. Very interesting what he said about the QBs in that draft because the trade between St. Louis and Washington had taken place so the top-two picks were pretty much known to be Luck and RG III which left the Browns considering QB options or taking the best player at a different position. I think this interview provides a valuable insight into Bill Kuharich's thoughts on taking a risk on a second-teir QB or taking the best player available. Hint, don't expect us to reach for a QB in this draft unless both Ray Farmer and Bill Kuharich are sold on them. LINK to interview: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/audio/Bill-Kuharich-Interview-412/6afe98b1-200f-48fd-87fe-d68a08cead89 Posted:Apr 12, 2012 Bill Kuharich Interview 4/12 Vic Carucci talks to Bill Kuharich on Cleveland Browns Daily, Driven by Liberty Ford
  11. Yes, you are by far much smarter. 3 coaches and 3 GMs in 14 months =/ continuity. You can spin in different ways, but it seems failry obvious this is a true statement. I'm sure you were on board with each new coach and each new GM based on what I've read from you. I hope it works out. I was making a general statement about how constant upheveal in coaching staffs is not generall a good way to establish a winning program - if you feel differently I guess we will just disagree. I like the Pettine hire, but if he is not given time to establish a program then there's no way that that's a good thing. Not as smart as you obviously eh? You seem to just about know everything. Golly gee whiz. Educate me. Go ahead and prove I was on-board with replacing Tom Heckert with Mike Lombardi as the GM. My take on Shumur? You think I was all on-board with the hire of Shurmur? Again go ahead and prove that one. I was fine with the Chud hiring and considering that people were ledging when he got fired shows Chud wasn't reviled by fans or people on the outside. I on the other hand have not gone hog wild one way or another on any of those moves with the exception of letting Heckert go for Lombardi and made multiple posts saying the same thing at the time. The latest move of moving on from Lombardi for Farmer is one I not only was in favor of, I had shared a story from Marla Rideneour who suggest doing that a few weeks ago when storiies started popping up that Ray Fermer might leave to take a GM job with another team. Not only did I share the story I said she makes an excellent point becuase I never was sold on Lombardi's talent evaluating ability. I've obviously not been paying attention of my personal point of view but you must since you assume to knoiw. Your assumptions about my personal opinions are not accurate so I'll take it your assumption that Pettine won't get enough time is... well I don't have to tell you since you are soo smart you probably figured it out.
  12. Their are two new podcasts out by Sig and Cecil and in both of them they mention a Weston Richurg a center from CSU. No not Cleveland State. Colorado State University. Seems like an interesting prospect at the center position should we wind up losing Alex Mack. Links to both podcasts and a story on Richburg. --------------------------------------------------------------- Feb 11 2014 2014 Volume#12a - On The Couch 2.11.2014 (#2081) In This Episode: Sigmund Bloom, Lance Zierlein (The Sideline View), Bryan Perez (First Round Grade) discuss the NFL Draft. Topics Include - What will Houston do with the first round pick, are character concerns about Johnny Manziel are overblown, Why Greg Robinson will be a top five pick, plus more! Feb 12 2014 2014 Volume#13a - Ridin Shotgun 2/10/2014 - NFL Draft Talk (#2082) In This Episode: Cecil Lammey discusses the latest news and notes from around the NFL and NFL draft. Topics Include - an interview with Josh Norris (Rotoworld, NBC Sports about what they saw at the Shrine Game and Senior Bowl, an interview with Doug Farrar (Sports Illustrated) about building a Seahawks-like team, Cecil complains about QB Brett Smith (Wyoming) not getting an invite to the Scouting Combine, plus more! http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23746601/colorado-state-center-weston-richburg-has-reached-center-draft-dream
  13. Pump the breaks in saying Ray Farmer is better than Mike Lombardi? The point is that we lost absolutely nothing of football value and we have kept continuity in promoting Farmer.
  14. That's the rub though, stability goes a long way towards winning. Um, we fired Mike Lombardi and Joe Banner. Mike Lombardi was a GM but he wasn't doing the legwork, assistant GM Ray Farmer was. Joe Banner had no football background but he was making football decisions. We fired Lombardi and Joe Banner. What did we lose? Nothing of football value. We have continuity at the GM position because Ray has been with the organization the entire time. We have continuity but people are not smart enough to realize we lost nothing and gained a better talent evaluator and we got rid of a layer between the football operations and the owner. We're better today than two days ago. We have continuity at the GM role and we're better structured in the front office IMHO. Oh and anyone who doesn't agree. Go ahead and make a case for Mike Lombardi or Joe Banner. Browns fans will laugh in your ####### face.
  15. Good snapsis by Burge. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1956881-cleveland-browns-promoting-ray-farmer-was-a-much-needed-course-correction
  16. Commonly held view? How could a, ahem made-up conspiracy be a commonly held view? Obviously it had been reported and from many sources for Haslam to come out with a public denial. It was reported from many sources. Grove from Buffalo heard it. Grossi had said it long ago. Carrucci said it yesterday on the air. And so did Hooley on his program. Today? Haslam comes out in front of the story with his version.
  17. Don't mean to dismiss your post but you don't follow the team and you don't know anything about the team and your points? Weak, I mean weak sauce. Ah, actually not worth replying to, sorry.
  18. It is possible that Jimmy Haslam is the problem but Joe Banner had no personnel experiene. He was thrust upon Jimmy Haslam by the NFL. He was vilififed in Philidelphia for getting rid of popular veterans to save cap space. And then when he let Tom Heckert go only to bring in Mike Lombardi it really got him off on the wrong foot with Cleveland fans. The reports are now coming out that last year's HC hire was Banner. Last year's GM was in name only, Mike Lombardi. No one knows how much of a say he had in the hire of Chud but his history as a pro personnel guy is/was spotty at best. Teams hire and fire GMs and HCs annually and they hire GMs and HCs every year, sometimes the HC gets hired first so obviously the GM had no say and sometime the GM gets hired first but they may or may not have much say in the HC hire just like Mike Lombardi is thought to have little say in last year's hire of Rob Chudzinski. Now that Ray in-charge of personnel and has hired Kuharich he can begin to establish himself with the club. Once he has earned some juice then, yeah, he will get more say in any hire if they need a new HC. First he has to succeed. The hire of Kuharich is a good first day move by Ray IMHO. Lande seems to agree too. Russell Lande‏@RUSSLANDE1 hr @AdamSchefter - Kuharich is a great man & deserves this chance after what was done to him by the old regime in Kansas City. lol yes the nfl sabatoged the browns by foprcing them to hire banner damn you NFL!!! B-Deep, In spite of your incredulity I didn't make this up. This isn't a rumor, it was reported on Cleveland Browns Daily and was also just reported on a program on the local ESPN station. reported like it is a fact, the NFL forced Banner on Haslam? Reported by Vic Carrucci. He not only reported that but he also noted others at NFL HC who were linked with Banner who was well connected. I don't make #### up B-Deep. Also after Carrucci's reported, which was far more detailed than just Joe Banner was forced on Jimmy Haslam, it was then reported on another EPSN local Cleveland station, the same information that Banner was forced on Haslam as part of the terms and conditions for taking ownership of the Browns. This information seemed to be well known by both Carrucci and the other host so it is either already out there or will soon be. I don't make #### up. See the Kuharich news that I heard and was confirmed minutes later. Cleveland Browns Daily podcasts are linked the next day so I'll link the program where the detailed information is recorded. Carrucci would never say something like that if he didn't know it was true. maybe you don;t make stuff up, but you might choose the speculation that most fit your view of the franchise and present it as fact. I'd like to read what Vic said though, maybe the NFL has been setting haslam up to fail. No, no, no. YOU are the one who went all conspiratorial on a bit of information. YOU are the one who is taking a leap on the information saying its a conspiracy that the NFL wants the Browns to fail. I never said that or hinted at that YOU did. I reported that Banner was forced on Haslam because it was reported. Their could be all sorts of reasons for the NFL forcing Banner on Haslam and not one of them would ever be that the NFL is conspiriing to make the Cleveland Browns fail. That is ludicrous and I never said that so don't try to pin that on me. It could have been as I SPECULATED that the NFL wanteded to pair Jimmy Haslam with someone with NFL experience since Jimmy was a new owner. The NFL may have even done that to help out the struggling Cleveland Browns franchise. Their could be all sorts of benevolent reasons for the NFL making that one of the conditions of ownership. Everything doesn't have to be with evil intent and if someone reports something don't automatically assume someone is suggesting a bad intent. Jeesh. WTF?
  19. It is possible that Jimmy Haslam is the problem but Joe Banner had no personnel experiene. He was thrust upon Jimmy Haslam by the NFL. He was vilififed in Philidelphia for getting rid of popular veterans to save cap space. And then when he let Tom Heckert go only to bring in Mike Lombardi it really got him off on the wrong foot with Cleveland fans. The reports are now coming out that last year's HC hire was Banner. Last year's GM was in name only, Mike Lombardi. No one knows how much of a say he had in the hire of Chud but his history as a pro personnel guy is/was spotty at best. Teams hire and fire GMs and HCs annually and they hire GMs and HCs every year, sometimes the HC gets hired first so obviously the GM had no say and sometime the GM gets hired first but they may or may not have much say in the HC hire just like Mike Lombardi is thought to have little say in last year's hire of Rob Chudzinski. Now that Ray in-charge of personnel and has hired Kuharich he can begin to establish himself with the club. Once he has earned some juice then, yeah, he will get more say in any hire if they need a new HC. First he has to succeed. The hire of Kuharich is a good first day move by Ray IMHO. Lande seems to agree too. Russell Lande‏@RUSSLANDE1 hr @AdamSchefter - Kuharich is a great man & deserves this chance after what was done to him by the old regime in Kansas City. lol yes the nfl sabatoged the browns by foprcing them to hire banner damn you NFL!!! B-Deep, In spite of your incredulity I didn't make this up. This isn't a rumor, it was reported on Cleveland Browns Daily and was also just reported on a program on the local ESPN station. reported like it is a fact, the NFL forced Banner on Haslam? Reported by Vic Carrucci. He not only reported that but he also noted others at NFL HC who were linked with Banner who was well connected. I don't make #### up B-Deep. Also after Carrucci's reported, which was far more detailed than just Joe Banner was forced on Jimmy Haslam, it was then reported on another EPSN local Cleveland station, the same information that Banner was forced on Haslam as part of the terms and conditions for taking ownership of the Browns. This information seemed to be well known by both Carrucci and the other host so it is either already out there or will soon be. I don't make #### up. See the Kuharich news that I heard and was confirmed minutes later. Cleveland Browns Daily podcasts are linked the next day so I'll link the program where the detailed information is recorded. Carrucci would never say something like that if he didn't know it was true.
  20. It is possible that Jimmy Haslam is the problem but Joe Banner had no personnel experiene. He was thrust upon Jimmy Haslam by the NFL. He was vilififed in Philidelphia for getting rid of popular veterans to save cap space. And then when he let Tom Heckert go only to bring in Mike Lombardi it really got him off on the wrong foot with Cleveland fans. The reports are now coming out that last year's HC hire was Banner. Last year's GM was in name only, Mike Lombardi. No one knows how much of a say he had in the hire of Chud but his history as a pro personnel guy is/was spotty at best. Teams hire and fire GMs and HCs annually and they hire GMs and HCs every year, sometimes the HC gets hired first so obviously the GM had no say and sometime the GM gets hired first but they may or may not have much say in the HC hire just like Mike Lombardi is thought to have little say in last year's hire of Rob Chudzinski. Now that Ray in-charge of personnel and has hired Kuharich he can begin to establish himself with the club. Once he has earned some juice then, yeah, he will get more say in any hire if they need a new HC. First he has to succeed. The hire of Kuharich is a good first day move by Ray IMHO. Lande seems to agree too. Russell Lande‏@RUSSLANDE1 hr @AdamSchefter - Kuharich is a great man & deserves this chance after what was done to him by the old regime in Kansas City. lol yes the nfl sabatoged the browns by foprcing them to hire banner damn you NFL!!! B-Deep, In spite of your incredulity I didn't make this up. This isn't a rumor, it was reported on Cleveland Browns Daily and was also just reported on a program on the local ESPN station.
  21. It is possible that Jimmy Haslam is the problem but Joe Banner had no personnel experiene. He was thrust upon Jimmy Haslam by the NFL. He was vilififed in Philidelphia for getting rid of popular veterans to save cap space. And then when he let Tom Heckert go only to bring in Mike Lombardi it really got him off on the wrong foot with Cleveland fans. The reports are now coming out that last year's HC hire was Banner. Last year's GM was in name only, Mike Lombardi. No one knows how much of a say he had in the hire of Chud but his history as a pro personnel guy is/was spotty at best. Teams hire and fire GMs and HCs annually and they hire GMs and HCs every year, sometimes the HC gets hired first so obviously the GM had no say and sometime the GM gets hired first but they may or may not have much say in the HC hire just like Mike Lombardi is thought to have little say in last year's hire of Rob Chudzinski. Now that Ray in-charge of personnel and has hired Kuharich he can begin to establish himself with the club. Once he has earned some juice then, yeah, he will get more say in any hire if they need a new HC. First he has to succeed. The hire of Kuharich is a good first day move by Ray IMHO. Lande seems to agree too. Russell Lande‏@RUSSLANDE1 hr @AdamSchefter - Kuharich is a great man & deserves this chance after what was done to him by the old regime in Kansas City.
  22. Because next year you'll be looking for a HC, again..at least that's how I took those reports. You don't get it. The Browns HC search took soo long and soo many opted out of the HC job due to trepidation of having to work with Michael Lombardi and Joe Banner. Last year Rob Chudzinski was reported to be a Joe Banner hire. This year the HC search looked like a drunken disaster that was all over the map but reports have started to leak out that Lombardi wanted McDaniels and Banner wanted to wait for Quinn. Jimmy Haslam stepped in and he is the one behind the hire of Mike Pettine. Haslam was asked two questions about the HC search via todays news in the press conference where he was asked about potential head coaching hires opting out due to having to work with Lombardi and Banner and he refused to answer but would only say, 'We got the best head coach." He then was asked about Joe Banner wanting to extend the HC search to wait for Quinn from Seattle after the Super Bowl but he again refused to answer that question and once again stated even more forcefully "We got the best head coach." Pettine was Jimmy Haslam's hire. The way he answered those questions said it all During the HC search the word got to Jimmy Haslams loud and clear that potential head coaches had great hesitation working with Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi. Breaking news confirmed! Bill Kuharich hired by the Cleveland Browns to work with new GM Ray Farmer: Adam Schefter‏@AdamSchefter53m CLEV hiring former Chiefs VP of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich to assist new Browns GM Ray Farmer, per sources. They worked together in KC. ============ Oh Farmer had no say in the HC hire. He won't. The chain of command is cery clear on who hires the HC in Cleveland. Its owner Jimmy Haslam. Ray Farmer is in charge of personnel.
  23. Breaking news. Don't have a link, just reported on Cleveland Browns Daily that Ray Farmer will be bringing in Bill Kuharich to assist him. Ray Farmer and Bill Kuharich are mentioned in this story on who really built the 2013 Kansas City Chiefs: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/63307056/ Oh and they confirmed the rumors that Joe Banner was forced onto Browns owner JImmy Haslam. And its widely known by Browns fans that Mike Lombardi was Banner's boy and that Banner had no personnel background. He was known as a brilliant cap guy but he was never known as a personnel guy. From all reports it seems that Ray Farmer and Bill Kuharich are solid personnel guys.
  24. Disagree. Reasons? - The Browns had six Pro Bowlers last year - The Browns have the second most cap space in the NFL - The Browns have extra 3rd and 4th round draft picks - And the Browns have two-1st round draft picks Oh and people around the league understand things can turn around very quickly for Cleveland. Daniel Jeremiah‏@MoveTheSticks2 hrs I really like Mike Pettine & CLE has a lot of talent. If they figure out the QB spot, this could be a 10 win team. #NotKidding
  25. Haslam has legal issues but he invested tens of millions into the team and the facilities. Last year the front office spent some free agency dollars on players for the first time in a long time they went out and targeted some of the highest priced free agents. The ownwership of Randy Lerner not only didn't spend any time at the facility with the team he also didn't spend top-money on players. Haslam opened his pocket book to sign our best player to a long-term deal, he signed OT Joe Thomas to a long-term deal and he got two of last year's highest priced free agents, OLB/DE Paul Kruger and DE Desmond Bryant. When Randy Lerner was the owner we never signed any of the highest priced free agents, we just kept collecting cap space and pushing it forward. Banner and Lombardi are the ones who had the sabermeteric statisitical philosophy of pooling cap space to positions so this year when we have tons of cap space where we could easily have kept Alex Mack, a young Pro Bowl center in his prime because the front office put out the feelers that it wouldn't overspend on the O-Line as that would mean that we would have two top paid guys, Joe Thomas and Alex Mack even though we've got tons of cap space and can afford it. Now that Banner and Lombardi are out we may be able to keep both SS T.J. Ward AND C Alex Mack. I hope that happens. Who cares that Ray Farmer didn't hire Pettine? People are hung up on this? NFL front offices are run in many ways and GMs have different roles. The GM and the HC have to work together where the GM has to understand and know the scheme to a point he can find guys to fit the scheme. The GM doesn't have to hire the HC. The GM can but he doesn't have to. Some HCs actually have a far greater say in personnel mattes and hold the power to hire and fire GMs, see Eric Mangini and Kokonis for an example of that philosophy being a disaster. Its far more important that Ray and Mike get on the same page but I'm glad Ray was out doing personnel work instead of hiring coaches. It should be pointed out that many were crying about Mike Lombardi NOT being at the Senior Bowl and we ONLY HAD Ray Farmer there because they thought the GM should be at the Senior Bowl. Well? He was. Our GM was there doing personnel work. Oh and it should also be pointed out that our HC was at the Senior Bowl too. Pettine was called away from the Senior Bowl on Thursday morning so he was there for all but two practices and the actual game which is secondary to the scoutint process of witnessing the practices so both our GM AND HC were in attendance at the Senior Bowl. Something that people were losing their freaking minds over at the time. Oh and if Jimmy Haslam gets sent up the river his family has billions and its already been reported a chain of succession will step-in. So who cares who the billionaire is so long as they are solvent and Haslam has put millions into upgrading the facility. He just got the city to kick-in over $117 million for stadium upgrades after he put in tens of millions upgrading the Bereau complex and also putting in tens of millions to sign high priced free agents. The bottom line is Jimmy Haslam is in charge and Ray Farmer is running the personnel sie. This is Farmer's draft. I like it just on that level alone. We don't have to guess about who is running the front office and I am happy Farmer is running the personnel side.
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