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  1. I think this answered my earlier post about missing features. I guess it's lineup dominator that I'm remembering, odd to not have it out prior to week 1. Thanks.
  2. It's not about expectations. No one is saying he's not living up to expectations. I think we're just saying we're not ready to crown his ### like many seem to be. What he's doing for the Ravens, another 20 QBs in the league could be doing. That's all. It's still really impressive for a rookie, but not impressive for starting NFL QB. Were you impressed with what Dilfer did with Baltimore? Did that make him a star in your eyes?Whoa there, hoss, all I said was he did what he was expected to do, I'm not trying to crown him as anything except one of the best rookie QBs we've ever seen. I disagree with a comparison to Dilfer as much as I disagree with a comparison to Manning, tho. Personally, I think he has more potential than you seem to, but all I'm trying to say is that he doesn't suck. I agree that today's performance was great, for a rookie, would've been mediocre for a 3-4 year vet. hes not even the best rookie qb this season.You don't have to sell me on that, just check my avatar, but to say he's not one of the best ever is selling him short, IMO. Not sure where the confusion is coming from, I said outright it would've been mediocre if it weren't for the fact that he was a rookie. I don't know if you can quantify it with stats, but the kid's won two playoff games with 0 turnovers. He, Peyton and Ben are the only QBs in the playoffs this year without a turnover, that in itself is pretty good stuff. Can't remember now who stands on which side of this debate, so I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but in either case, Joe certainly made up for the turnovers in that game. Still a great rookie season, we'll see how he progresses in the next couple of years.
  3. It's not about expectations. No one is saying he's not living up to expectations. I think we're just saying we're not ready to crown his ### like many seem to be. What he's doing for the Ravens, another 20 QBs in the league could be doing. That's all. It's still really impressive for a rookie, but not impressive for starting NFL QB. Were you impressed with what Dilfer did with Baltimore? Did that make him a star in your eyes?Whoa there, hoss, all I said was he did what he was expected to do, I'm not trying to crown him as anything except one of the best rookie QBs we've ever seen. I disagree with a comparison to Dilfer as much as I disagree with a comparison to Manning, tho. Personally, I think he has more potential than you seem to, but all I'm trying to say is that he doesn't suck. I agree that today's performance was great, for a rookie, would've been mediocre for a 3-4 year vet. hes not even the best rookie qb this season.You don't have to sell me on that, just check my avatar, but to say he's not one of the best ever is selling him short, IMO. Not sure where the confusion is coming from, I said outright it would've been mediocre if it weren't for the fact that he was a rookie. I don't know if you can quantify it with stats, but the kid's won two playoff games with 0 turnovers. He, Peyton and Ben are the only QBs in the playoffs this year without a turnover, that in itself is pretty good stuff.
  4. It's not about expectations. No one is saying he's not living up to expectations. I think we're just saying we're not ready to crown his ### like many seem to be. What he's doing for the Ravens, another 20 QBs in the league could be doing. That's all. It's still really impressive for a rookie, but not impressive for starting NFL QB. Were you impressed with what Dilfer did with Baltimore? Did that make him a star in your eyes?Whoa there, hoss, all I said was he did what he was expected to do, I'm not trying to crown him as anything except one of the best rookie QBs we've ever seen. I disagree with a comparison to Dilfer as much as I disagree with a comparison to Manning, tho. Personally, I think he has more potential than you seem to, but all I'm trying to say is that he doesn't suck. I agree that today's performance was great, for a rookie, would've been mediocre for a 3-4 year vet.
  5. Titans absolutely gift wrapped this game, but doesn't take away what Flacco did. He did what he had to do, when he had to do it. He also got some good help from his receivers, but he still delivered a catchable ball when it counted under pressure. Not sure what more people expect from him. He done good.
  6. The Ravens may win with D but the D hasn't really changed since last season when they couldn't manage to win more than 4 games.What?My bad, they won 5 games in 2007.The defensive cornerstones Lewis, Reed, Suggs & Ngata played 62 combined games in 2007 and 64 combined games in 2008. Did the loss of Adalius Thomas have that much of an impact on the 2007 team? Trevor Pryce? They lost 8 more games in 2007 then in 2006 was it all because of those two? If those losses were so big what accounts for the 6 game improvement this year? Marques Douglass? Brandon McKinney? Brendon Ayanbadejo? Jameel McClain? Jim Leonhard has had a nice season. Samari Rolle played four more games in 2008 than 2007. Isn't there an argument for improved play from the QB position being a significant factor in that? I think Flacco deserves some credit for this turnaround. I am not saying he is the next Manning but he has had a very nice season. Which is what I think 95% of the people here are saying, and now we're starting to split hairs on how nice of a season it was. The OP was obviously , but it turned into a decent discussion despite that.
  7. The Ravens may win with D but the D hasn't really changed since last season when they couldn't manage to win more than 4 games.The principle differences between this and last season are on offense. Harbaugh, Cameron & Flacco. The kid deserves some credit. Couldn't agree more, but I think there's a few folks taking it a little TOO far in his defense, almost suggesting he's the sole reason. Reed and Lewis have been playing out of their minds this year as well.I've seen nothing to indicate that he won't be at least a competent NFL QB.
  8. I'm on record as a Flacco supporter, so don't take this the wrong way, but the case here around surrounding talent for Flacco revolves solely around the defense, IMO. 2008 Ravens give up 15.5 points per game. '98 Colts gave up 27. The Ravens win with D, not with the QB. Comparisons to Manning are off-base, IMO.
  9. I agree with you, but I disagree with the bolded part. If the Ravens lose, it won't reflect badly on Flacco, IMO, even if he struggles. Do you feel the same about Ryan because Flacco outperformed him for the last 11 games each they played. 13/5 to 12/8 from that point. One reason I think Flacco has every bit of a future as Ryan does.In what area? Over the last 11 weeks (not counting the playoffs, just reg season), Ryan has:Same number of wins (9) More completions (210, 195) More attempts (329, 322) Higher completion % (64%, 60%) More yards per attempt (8.5, 7.5) More TDs (14, 13) Higher overall rating (94.8, 88.3 (This is actually an average of the ratings, not doing the whole complex formula)) The only down stat is that Ryan has 1 more pick. I'm not taking anything away from Flacco, but he's not the pure QB Ryan is at this point, and is still in the playoffs because of his defense. The Ravens are the better team, Ryan is the better QB at this moment.
  10. Do the first half/second half splits and see if you still feel the same. I still don't think he's the QB Ryan is, but if not for Ryan, Flacco would've gotten the offensive ROY IMO. He still might be the overall one, due to getting a playoff win, although I think that's more easily credited to the D than to Flacco.
  11. Yup. And the Titans did nothing to get the ball to Johnson. Why they don't try to get the ball to him as a receiver 5-6 times every game is beyond me.that's what confuses me. Don't they USUALLY try to get him the ball on the screen more often?I didn't see this game, but the box score strikes me as similar to the way teams play the falcons. 8 in the box and force the rookie QB to beat you. And despite the rookie QB beating you to a bloody pulp, you continue to put 8 in the box. Is that what happened to Chicago? So determined to stop the run, they ignored the fact that the Titans were beating them with the pass?
  12. So, CJ3 proved he was a match for the Minny D. What are expectations for him @Baltimore? Is he still a must start there?
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