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  1. Wondered about that scar on Hoyer's face and find this. http://blog.mlive.com/spartans/2007/08/hoyers_competitive_spirit_well.html
  2. Thomas Jones and Cedric Benson were perennial major disappointments before they settled into being decent fantasy commodities. Stewart in looking like he might be similar to them in that regard. Definitely worth a late round pick in redrafts or a pick-up from a burned out dynasty owner who is looking for a WR3/4. Yes buy low but keep expectations low.
  3. Hodgepodge of qb's got Gordon the ball last year. Dalton gets Green the ball. Locker will find Hunter.
  4. Terrell Davis. There are many other players who debunk your position, but his name jumped to the forefront when you made this statement. I thought of John Randle.
  5. I was interested in seeing to whom the optimists would want to compare Hunter. The query filter apparently was not able to accommodate players drafted via the supplemental draft, as Josh Gordon was not returned with the results. Query Parameters: For single seasons, from 1970 to 2014, from 1st to 3rd season, played in the NFL, played WR, drafted as WR, player was drafted in rounds 1 through 2, player was picked between the 1st and the 500th overall pick, player was drafted between 1970 and 2014, requiring Height >= 75, sorted by descending Receptions. http://pfref.com/tiny/orto1 Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg Ht Wt BMI G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G1 Larry Fitzgerald 2005 22 1-3 ARI NFL 6-3 225 28.1 16 16 103 1409 13.68 10 88.12 A.J. Green 2013 25 1-4 CIN NFL 6-4 205 25.0 16 16 98 1426 14.55 11 89.13 A.J. Green 2012 24 1-4 CIN NFL 6-4 205 25.0 16 16 97 1350 13.92 11 84.44 Demaryius Thomas 2012 25 1-22 DEN NFL 6-3 229 28.6 16 16 94 1434 15.26 10 89.65 Alshon Jeffery 2013 23 2-45 CHI NFL 6-4 230 28.0 16 14 89 1421 15.97 7 88.86 Javon Walker 2004 26 1-20 GNB NFL 6-3 220 27.5 16 12 89 1382 15.53 12 86.47 Al Toon 1986 23 1-10 NYJ NFL 6-4 205 25.0 16 16 85 1176 13.84 8 73.58 Keyshawn Johnson 1998 26 1-1 NYJ NFL 6-4 212 25.8 16 16 83 1131 13.63 10 70.79 Sidney Rice 2009 23 2-44 MIN NFL 6-4 200 24.3 16 14 83 1312 15.81 8 82.010 Roy Williams 2006 25 1-7 DET NFL 6-4 210 25.6 16 16 82 1310 15.98 7 81.911 Germane Crowell 1999 23 2-50 DET NFL 6-3 213 26.6 16 15 81 1338 16.52 7 83.612 Michael Clayton 2004 22 1-15 TAM NFL 6-4 197 24.0 16 13 80 1193 14.91 7 74.613 Braylon Edwards 2007 24 1-3 CLE NFL 6-3 211 26.4 16 16 80 1289 16.11 16 80.614 Randy Moss 1999 22 1-21 MIN NFL 6-4 215 26.2 16 16 80 1413 17.66 11 88.315 Andre Johnson 2004 23 1-3 HOU NFL 6-3 219 27.4 16 16 79 1142 14.46 6 71.416 Julio Jones 2012 23 1-6 ATL NFL 6-4 220 26.8 16 15 79 1198 15.16 10 74.917 Plaxico Burress 2002 25 1-8 PIT NFL 6-5 226 26.8 16 15 78 1325 16.99 7 82.818 Calvin Johnson 2008 23 1-2 DET NFL 6-5 239 28.3 16 16 78 1331 17.06 12 83.219 Randy Moss 2000 23 1-21 MIN NFL 6-4 215 26.2 16 16 77 1437 18.66 15 89.820 James Lofton* 1980 24 1-6 GNB NFL 6-3 192 24.0 16 16 71 1226 17.27 4 76.6 Ht Wt Ht Wt Ht Wt Games Games Receiving Receiving Receiving Receiving ReceivingRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg Ht Wt BMI G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G21 Keyshawn Johnson 1997 25 1-1 NYJ NFL 6-4 212 25.8 16 16 70 963 13.76 5 60.222 Larry Fitzgerald 2006 23 1-3 ARI NFL 6-3 225 28.1 13 13 69 946 13.71 6 72.823 Randy Moss 1998 21 1-21 MIN NFL 6-4 215 26.2 16 11 69 1313 19.03 17 82.124 Al Toon 1987 24 1-10 NYJ NFL 6-4 205 25.0 12 11 68 976 14.35 5 81.325 Cris Collinsworth 1981 22 2-37 CIN NFL 6-5 192 22.8 16 16 67 1009 15.06 8 63.126 Calvin Johnson 2009 24 1-2 DET NFL 6-5 239 28.3 14 14 67 984 14.69 5 70.327 Vincent Brisby 1995 24 2-56 NWE NFL 6-3 190 23.7 16 16 66 974 14.76 3 60.928 Plaxico Burress 2001 24 1-8 PIT NFL 6-5 226 26.8 16 16 66 1008 15.27 6 63.029 Cris Collinsworth 1983 24 2-37 CIN NFL 6-5 192 22.8 14 14 66 1130 17.12 5 80.730 Andre Johnson 2003 22 1-3 HOU NFL 6-3 219 27.4 16 16 66 976 14.79 4 61.031 Michael Floyd 2013 24 1-13 ARI NFL 6-3 220 27.5 16 16 65 1041 16.02 5 65.132 A.J. Green 2011 23 1-4 CIN NFL 6-4 205 25.0 15 15 65 1057 16.26 7 70.533 Andre Johnson 2005 24 1-3 HOU NFL 6-3 219 27.4 13 13 63 688 10.92 2 52.934 Keyshawn Johnson 1996 24 1-1 NYJ NFL 6-4 212 25.8 14 11 63 844 13.40 8 60.335 Braylon Edwards 2006 23 1-3 CLE NFL 6-3 211 26.4 16 15 61 884 14.49 6 55.336 Herman Moore 1993 24 1-10 DET NFL 6-4 210 25.6 15 15 61 935 15.33 6 62.337 Todd Pinkston 2002 25 2-36 PHI NFL 6-3 180 22.5 15 15 60 798 13.30 7 53.238 Vincent Brisby 1994 23 2-56 NWE NFL 6-3 190 23.7 14 11 58 904 15.59 5 64.639 Larry Fitzgerald 2004 21 1-3 ARI NFL 6-3 225 28.1 16 16 58 780 13.45 8 48.840 Art Monk* 1980 23 1-18 WAS NFL 6-3 210 26.2 16 11 58 797 13.74 3 49.8 Ht Wt Ht Wt Ht Wt Games Games Receiving Receiving Receiving Receiving ReceivingRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg Ht Wt BMI G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G41 J.J. Stokes 1997 25 1-10 SFO NFL 6-4 218 26.5 16 16 58 733 12.64 4 45.842 Chris Burkett 1987 25 2-42 BUF NFL 6-4 205 25.0 12 12 56 765 13.66 4 63.843 Art Monk* 1981 24 1-18 WAS NFL 6-3 210 26.2 16 16 56 894 15.96 6 55.944 Julio Jones 2011 22 1-6 ATL NFL 6-4 220 26.8 13 13 54 959 17.76 8 73.845 Ashley Lelie 2004 24 1-19 DEN NFL 6-3 200 25.0 16 16 54 1084 20.07 7 67.846 James Lofton* 1979 23 1-6 GNB NFL 6-3 192 24.0 16 16 54 968 17.93 4 60.547 Roy Williams 2004 23 1-7 DET NFL 6-4 210 25.6 14 12 54 817 15.13 8 58.448 Sean Dawkins 1995 24 1-16 IND NFL 6-4 215 26.2 16 13 52 784 15.08 3 49.049 Earnest Gray 1980 23 2-36 NYG NFL 6-3 195 24.4 16 16 52 777 14.94 10 48.650 Reggie Williams 2006 23 1-9 JAX NFL 6-4 225 27.4 16 14 52 616 11.85 4 38.551 Sean Dawkins 1994 23 1-16 IND NFL 6-4 215 26.2 16 16 51 742 14.55 5 46.452 Herman Moore 1992 23 1-10 DET NFL 6-4 210 25.6 12 11 51 966 18.94 4 80.553 Cris Collinsworth 1982 23 2-37 CIN NFL 6-5 192 22.8 9 9 49 700 14.29 1 77.854 Hart Lee Dykes 1989 23 1-16 NWE NFL 6-4 218 26.5 16 6 49 795 16.22 5 49.755 Calvin Johnson 2007 22 1-2 DET NFL 6-5 239 28.3 15 10 48 756 15.75 4 50.456 Sylvester Morris 2000 23 1-21 KAN NFL 6-3 206 25.7 15 14 48 678 14.13 3 45.257 James Lofton* 1978 22 1-6 GNB NFL 6-3 192 24.0 16 16 46 818 17.78 6 51.158 Al Toon 1985 22 1-10 NYJ NFL 6-4 205 25.0 15 8 46 662 14.39 3 44.159 Vincent Brisby 1993 22 2-56 NWE NFL 6-3 190 23.7 16 12 45 626 13.91 2 39.160 Michael Floyd 2012 23 1-13 ARI NFL 6-3 220 27.5 16 3 45 562 12.49 2 35.1 Ht Wt Ht Wt Ht Wt Games Games Receiving Receiving Receiving Receiving ReceivingRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg Ht Wt BMI G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G61 Jordy Nelson 2010 25 2-36 GNB NFL 6-3 215 26.9 16 4 45 582 12.93 2 36.462 Roy Williams 2005 24 1-7 DET NFL 6-4 210 25.6 13 12 45 687 15.27 8 52.863 Roger Carr 1976 24 1-24 BAL NFL 6-3 200 25.0 14 14 43 1112 25.86 11 79.464 David Terrell 2003 24 1-8 CHI NFL 6-3 215 26.9 16 7 43 361 8.40 1 22.665 Kenny Britt 2010 22 1-30 TEN NFL 6-3 215 26.9 12 7 42 775 18.45 9 64.666 Kenny Britt 2009 21 1-30 TEN NFL 6-3 215 26.9 16 6 42 701 16.69 3 43.867 Todd Pinkston 2001 24 2-36 PHI NFL 6-3 180 22.5 15 15 42 586 13.95 4 39.168 Vincent Jackson 2007 24 2-61 SDG NFL 6-5 241 28.6 16 16 41 623 15.20 3 38.969 Julio Jones 2013 24 1-6 ATL NFL 6-4 220 26.8 5 5 41 580 14.15 2 116.070 Matt Jones 2006 23 1-21 JAX NFL 6-6 242 28.0 14 4 41 643 15.68 4 45.971 Rueben Randle 2013 22 2-63 NYG NFL 6-4 205 25.0 16 3 41 611 14.90 6 38.272 Javon Walker 2003 25 1-20 GNB NFL 6-3 220 27.5 16 3 41 716 17.46 9 44.873 Billy Brooks 1977 24 1-11 CIN NFL 6-3 204 25.5 14 9 39 772 19.79 4 55.174 Michael Jenkins 2006 24 1-29 ATL NFL 6-4 217 26.4 16 16 39 436 11.18 7 27.375 J.J. Stokes 1995 23 1-10 SFO NFL 6-4 218 26.5 12 2 38 517 13.61 4 43.176 Aaron Dobson 2013 22 2-59 NWE NFL 6-3 210 26.2 12 9 37 519 14.03 4 43.377 Ashley Lelie 2003 23 1-19 DEN NFL 6-3 200 25.0 16 10 37 628 16.97 2 39.378 Alvin Harper 1993 25 1-12 DAL NFL 6-3 210 26.2 16 15 36 777 21.58 5 48.679 Michael Jenkins 2005 23 1-29 ATL NFL 6-4 217 26.4 14 12 36 508 14.11 3 36.380 Matt Jones 2005 22 1-21 JAX NFL 6-6 242 28.0 16 1 36 432 12.00 5 27.0 Ht Wt Ht Wt Ht Wt Games Games Receiving Receiving Receiving Receiving ReceivingRk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg Ht Wt BMI G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G81 Alvin Harper 1992 24 1-12 DAL NFL 6-3 210 26.2 16 13 35 562 16.06 4 35.182 Ashley Lelie 2002 22 1-19 DEN NFL 6-3 200 25.0 16 1 35 525 15.00 2 32.883 Art Monk* 1982 25 1-18 WAS NFL 6-3 210 26.2 9 9 35 447 12.77 1 49.784 Daryl Turner 1984 23 2-49 SEA NFL 6-3 194 24.2 16 8 35 715 20.43 10 44.785 Reggie Williams 2005 22 1-9 JAX NFL 6-4 225 27.4 16 7 35 445 12.71 0 27.886 Chris Burkett 1986 24 2-42 BUF NFL 6-4 205 25.0 14 10 34 778 22.88 4 55.687 Germane Crowell 2000 24 2-50 DET NFL 6-3 213 26.6 9 7 34 430 12.65 3 47.888 Hart Lee Dykes 1990 24 1-16 NWE NFL 6-4 218 26.5 10 10 34 549 16.15 2 54.989 David Terrell 2001 22 1-8 CHI NFL 6-3 215 26.9 16 6 34 415 12.21 4 25.990 Daryl Turner 1985 24 2-49 SEA NFL 6-3 194 24.2 16 12 34 670 19.71 13 41.991 Michael Westbrook 1997 25 1-4 WAS NFL 6-3 220 27.5 13 9 34 559 16.44 3 43.092 Michael Westbrook 1996 24 1-4 WAS NFL 6-3 220 27.5 11 6 34 505 14.85 1 45.993 Michael Westbrook 1995 23 1-4 WAS NFL 6-3 220 27.5 11 9 34 522 15.35 1 47.594 Michael Clayton 2006 24 1-15 TAM NFL 6-4 197 24.0 12 9 33 356 10.79 1 29.795 Walker Gillette 1972 25 1-15 STL NFL 6-5 200 23.7 14 13 33 550 16.67 2 39.396 Jordy Nelson 2008 23 2-36 GNB NFL 6-3 215 26.9 16 2 33 366 11.09 2 22.997 Michael Clayton 2005 23 1-15 TAM NFL 6-4 197 24.0 14 10 32 372 11.63 0 26.698 Braylon Edwards 2005 22 1-3 CLE NFL 6-3 211 26.4 10 7 32 512 16.00 3 51.299 Demaryius Thomas 2011 24 1-22 DEN NFL 6-3 229 28.6 11 5 32 551 17.22 4 50.1100 Sidney Rice 2007 21 2-44 MIN NFL 6-4 200 24.3 13 4 31 396 12.77 4 30.5
  6. I'll let some stats guy do projections but I'm very high on him. Bowe is a weak WR#1 and they really don't have #2 WR. A healthy Kelce could take on the targets of a #2 WR. I could envision him having a Jordan Reed type breakout season. I can definitely see him coming in as a low-end TE1 or possibly a high TE1, he might be the best TD target on the team. I'm kind of pissed he went off last night though, here's to hoping he has some quite games ahead of him before the season. I've been snatching him up in every draft this offseason and trading for him buy low in dynasty. Still have one or two more big money leagues though and was hoping to grab him as another late round flier. I won't give a full projection cause I"m really not sure what type of production he'll see. Realize, Smith through the ball 508 times last season, completed about 60% for 308 completions, that said... it was over 15 games. Add in a 16th game and you get about 541 attempts and 328 receptions. Now, Fasano and McGrath combined for 41 receptions, 355 yards and 4 TDs. That said, they suck, both of them. And last season the O-Line was significantly better. This year, Smith is going to be checking down to Charles and his TE a lot more I'd think. They were worth about 12.3% of the teams receptions last year. Andy Reid's history? TEs combined for: 12' - 82/367 completions or about 22.3% of the teams receptions 11' - 75/330 - 22.7% 10' - 51/348 - 14.65% 09' - 76/335 - 22.35% 08' - 64/362 - 17.7% Outside of the odd outlier of 2010, Reid usually averaged about 22% to his TEs and in most of these year (all but 08') it was almost exclusively towards Celek. So when he has a big and semi-talented TE he makes use of him. For comparison if the team averaged 22% last year it'd have about 74 receptions among the TEs. Now, obviously Kelce isn't just going to eat up every TE reception, but I also think the Chiefs are going to be forced into passing situations more this year and we all know Smith isn't going to take a lot of chances, so even in passing down's he's going to look at the TE often. I'd say a solid projection for Kelce right now would be 55 Rec, 632 yards and 7 TDs with a high end projection being more around the lines of 80 receptions, 900 yards and 10 TDs. I overlooked this great post prior to making my post above. Great analysis.
  7. He actually put distance on #22 Damn he was moving fast. Guess that knee is completely healed. Andy Reid's offenses in Philly used the tight end. Brent Celek had a pretty good season some years ago. And Alex Smith partnered with Vernon Davis on some good tight end seasons in SF. Future looks bright for Kelce.
  8. That would have been rather remarkable. I do agree that Sims is a multi-talented back with plus hands. Caught 203 between his playing days at Houston & WVU.
  9. Glad I'm not the only person suffering from that. My scrolling thumb is killing me.
  10. How good for the Packers offense if as a rookie, Adams forms a great connection with Rodgers.
  11. It would be ideal if he just focused on making every touch a quality touch....every down a quality contribution rather than putting pressure on himself to reach some statistical level of production.
  12. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/133920/packers-camp-report-day-7 Rookie second-round receiver Davante Adams has shown up big in practice more often of late. He made perhaps the best catch of Family Night, when he had to extend himself to haul in a ball on the left sideline from Matt Flynn against tight coverage from cornerback Antonio Dennard.
  13. This was posted two days ago, and it is worth heeding by all of us posting because: Personally I do not wish to see this thread locked.. please and thank-you! Thanks for pointing this out. I had overlooked it.
  14. See you in a couple of weeks. Just curious. Was this person just banned for that post? Reason I ask is that I am unsure how to interpret the "see you in a couple of weeks" reply. Thanks.
  15. Souflly...did you ever find that link???? This is potentially critical info. I would like to see the source so we can see who said it, just in case it is from a credible source versus some ######## blogger or clown making up stuff on a message board Im on my cell, but Im pretty sure its on one of the previous pages... I think I posted it. If not, ill find it when I get homeWas that a Freudian slip? I thought Ojaays was not Soulfly3 Yet when Soulfly was asked for a link from a post from Ojaays it was in fact Soulfly who responded Haha... Not that it matters as most of us suspected it anyway and actually it's kinda fun to keep with the ruse I noticed that too and had to laugh.
  16. Trent Richardson RB | IND Trent Richardson 'probably is who he is' by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com (1 hr ago) CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora wrote in his analysis on the Colts that he's not banking on a bounceback season from running back Trent Richardson. "At this point he probably is who he is," La Canfora continued. "The Colts will give him every opportunity to show otherwise, especially with [Vick] Ballard out, but will the explosion ever be there?" La Canfora even floated the idea of Indy trading a tight end for a running back like Buffalo's C.J. Spiller. Richardson averaged 2.9 yards per carry last season while rushing for three touchdowns and fumbling twice
  17. I don't get why people keep going on about passing 70 drug tests. He's supposed to pass every drug test. From what was reported however, the incredible trace amount that was measured apparently is not much. Again, as I have posted previously, I do not dispute the desire on the NFL to administer discipline in line with what the players and league agreed to under current CBA or even that it makes sense to implement action in support of the current rules. It just seems that it is counterproductive to what seems to be needed for achieving compliance. Does the punishment fit the crime? It appears that the law that designates an action as being a crime, is unreasonable. The conduct being regulated while not in line with current expectations of the law, is gaining more and more acceptability - likely giving the league and players union a reason to loosen the screws when it comes to recreational pot use. The Gordon case is going to be feedback in the policymaking process that results in this type of 3 strikes approach to zero tolerance a thing of the past on the next go round of the CBA. The threshold is the amount that the Mayo Clinic and the World Anti-Doping Association list as being indicative of marijuana use. It isn't some arbitrary amount. It feels like people are just throwing small sounding adjectives on to the amount to try to make it sound trivial. I don't get why people keep going on about passing 70 drug tests. He's supposed to pass every drug test. From what was reported however, the incredible trace amount that was measured apparently is not much. Again, as I have posted previously, I do not dispute the desire on the NFL to administer discipline in line with what the players and league agreed to under current CBA or even that it makes sense to implement action in support of the current rules. It just seems that it is counterproductive to what seems to be needed for achieving compliance. Does the punishment fit the crime? It appears that the law that designates an action as being a crime, is unreasonable. The conduct being regulated while not in line with current expectations of the law, is gaining more and more acceptability - likely giving the league and players union a reason to loosen the screws when it comes to recreational pot use. The Gordon case is going to be feedback in the policymaking process that results in this type of 3 strikes approach to zero tolerance a thing of the past on the next go round of the CBA. The threshold is the amount that the Mayo Clinic and the World Anti-Doping Association list as being indicative of marijuana use. It isn't some arbitrary amount. It feels like people are just throwing small sounding adjectives on to the amount to try to make it sound trivial. I am not intending to label it as arbitrary but rather trying call to light that it may benefit the league if it considered making it more realistic tolerance level. What is the goal of the current policy? Does pot use affect game play? No. So it is more likely related to image, which indicates a purely punitive mentality towards compliance with behavioral norms. Suspending some of its best players for what amounts to small infrequent use of grass is foolhardy and damaging to the product. The WADA is looking into whether or not the 15 ng/dl level is overly strict. page 8 of 39 http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/About_WADA/FoundationBoard_Minutes/FB%20May%202013%20Minutes_FINAL.pdf Related to these proceedings, here is additional insight on the decision of WADA to consider raising the threshold of urine THC to more realistic levels. http://golfweek.com/news/2013/may/14/tour-mum-wada-softens-stance-marijuana/ “We wanted to focus on the athletes that abuse the substance in competition,” said Julie Masse, WADA’s director of communications, from her office in Montreal. “This should exclude cases where marijuana is not used in competition.” Marijuana and cannabis have been deemed prohibited substances by WADA since the agency’s original list, in 2003. According to Richard Pound, an attorney who was WADA’s initial chief and still serves on the Foundation Board, the U.S. historically has regarded marijuana as an entry-level drug and not considered to be performance-enhancing. American sports officials lobbied hard for the drug’s ban in athletics. “From a sports perspective, I was rather ambivalent (toward marijuana),” Pound said. “As we morphed into WADA, the USA was very keen to have it included.” Under the former threshold, Pound said that an athlete who used marijuana a month before competition was likely to be detected, as was someone exposed to second-hand marijuana smoke two weeks before an event. “The 150 threshold number seemed to satisfy the scientific community,” Pound said.
  18. I don't get why people keep going on about passing 70 drug tests. He's supposed to pass every drug test. and based on a 99.999% accurate test, he's passed 71. Excellent post.
  19. I don't get why people keep going on about passing 70 drug tests. He's supposed to pass every drug test. From what was reported however, the incredible trace amount that was measured apparently is not much. Again, as I have posted previously, I do not dispute the desire on the NFL to administer discipline in line with what the players and league agreed to under current CBA or even that it makes sense to implement action in support of the current rules. It just seems that it is counterproductive to what seems to be needed for achieving compliance. Does the punishment fit the crime? It appears that the law that designates an action as being a crime, is unreasonable. The conduct being regulated while not in line with current expectations of the law, is gaining more and more acceptability - likely giving the league and players union a reason to loosen the screws when it comes to recreational pot use. The Gordon case is going to be feedback in the policymaking process that results in this type of 3 strikes approach to zero tolerance a thing of the past on the next go round of the CBA.
  20. Perhaps you were running with the wrong group of friends. I know this much, if I had tens of millions of dollars at stake, I would choose my friends more wisely. And nothing cures the urge to wake and bake like tens of millions of dollars at stake. Maybe. Awesome guys though. Best time of my life. We didn't have even tens of dollars, let alone tens of millions. Gordon makes more like 1.3 million. But I get your point too. 10 million a year salary should be incentive enough for someone to abide by an agreed upon personal conduct rule. But for Josh Gordon, it obviously was not. But from the looks of what is being reported, he seems to be working hard and trying to make strides in terms of his stemming his personal use. When news reports started surfacing out of Colorado and Washington about the grass users coming out and feeling so unburdened about not having to hide their use, it was interesting to see clearly upstanding professional looking people sharing their story. So what if Josh Gordon were hanging out with Coloradoans or Washingtonians who are professors, or bankers, or other mature tax paying successful people who choose to get high rather than go to the bar at happy hour and suck down beers and shots? It seems to me that the NFL policy makers need to reconsider their current stance on the use of marijuana in light of the changing social climate and state laws that is slowly evolving towards greater acceptance of pot. Otherwise, it risks losing the benefit of marquis players such as Gordon.
  21. I concur. I missed your post here while I was basically trying to share the same line of thinking. I get there are rules in place. However, in the context of all the bad things that Gordon can be involved with or compared to a good many other very bad things that other NFL players have done in the past, a 1 year suspension just does not seem rationally appropriate in light of all the facts.
  22. Good update and thanks. I get that the league is applying disciplinary action based on the agreed upon rules in the CBA. The heavy hand of a year's suspension so Gordon can take time to get "help" wreaks of paternalism. Again, I understand the need to enforce established agreements, however in light of him having passed some 70 drug tests already while having a single positive urine result that is below other major competitive sports' governing body thresholds for apparent drug use seems well....it again seems to show the league being what unreasonably heavy handed. As most pundits are now calling to light, it seems all the more imbalanced in light of Ray Rice's 2 games. I get it, I just don't agree with it. It approaches an almost zero tolerance approach that frankly does not look to apply the most appropriate action to the situation. I can see 2-4 games suspension as a reasonable wake-up call, but not a year.
  23. I may have overlooked it in prior posts, but passing 70 other urine tests, some of which had to be randomly taken without benefit of much if any advanced notice has to count for some benefit of the doubt as to veracity of claims he broke the rules, right? Or at the very least give someone with the authority, an opportunity to weigh all the facts and apply a level of discipline that is not based solely on an approach that's akin to zero tolerance to the letter of the CBA law.
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