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  1. 8 hours ago, Terminalxylem said:

    I’m sure there’s a thread on this somewhere, but are you arguing being lazy with cart return is a noble act?

    Do you litter to keep sanitation workers employed?

    There is indeed a thread on this somewhere (though I think it was inside a pet peeves thread or something similar) and I posted that I knew some FBG or other would make such an argument - as if the worker would get laid off if the carts were all properly put away.  Oof.  

  2. 1 hour ago, culdeus said:

    I think this is a huge issue.  We expected teachers to be engaging content creators like they are youtube stars or something.

    That's hard.  

    Even at let's say the law school level, why can't people just read law books and take the bar?  Isn't the goal to pass the bar and be a lawyer?  Yet there are 1000? law schools setup to spoon feed this information.  People need some interaction.

    Law schools' education model makes very little sense.  

  3. 6 hours ago, otb_lifer said:


     been at this for quite a bit this morning ... wrestling with the remaining 7 was tougher than i thought. 

    i devised a fair enough (imo) system to judge the overall success.

     ... the weighted points assigned to each category were then added, and divided by the # of seasons for each particular coach. 

    it worked out just as i thought it would, the final three tiers were exactly how i was gonna group them, with some shifting as per the numbers, but i feel the process was fair, and rewarded excellence properly. 

    i'll call it my HC Quotient ... and this is how it shook out:


     "That 70s Show" tier:

    any of these three coaches could've been ranked as high as #3 without batting an eyelash ... they won 8 of the 10 SBs in the decade, and the only one bereft of any of them was SB XI (Vikings/Raiders).


    Don Shula - 10 pts., HCQ 27.87

    Shula had HC cred before the Dolphins tenure, posting  a ridiculous 71-23-4 record in 7 seasons with the Colts.  but he had zero titles to show for it, even losing in the biggest upset in NFL history in SBIII.

    the Colts team he inherited went 7-7 the year prior to him stepping in, and they were just 4 seasons removed from back to back championships ... he certainly came in and rejuvenated the program, but many key pieces were already in place, most notably Johnny U ... so he wasn't exactly tasked with a rebuild ...

    ... but he was in Miami, taking a 3-10 team the previous season into the playoffs in his first year in SoBe.  we all know what happened in his third - the Dolphins ran the table, achieving the only perfect record in NFL history ... the '73 team (which many of the players said was actually better than '72) gave him his third straight SB appearance, and back to back titles. 

    his toughness and no nonsense approach were just what the team needed, that o-line and no-name defense are legendary.   great run. 

    then he stepped aside and watched the Stillers dominate the balance of the decade ... he had a losing season in '76, and missed the playoffs three consecutive seasons ('75,'76,'77).

    his next great success was in the work stoppage '82 season, reaching the SB due to some very muddy conditions in the ol'  Orange Bowl (AJ Duhe says "HI!" to Walt Michaels/Richard Todd) ... if i put the ding on Gibbs for winning in this facacta season, i sure as hell will ding Shula for losing ... his Killer Bs got run over by the Diesel/Hogs, as did the rest of the league. 

    credit for a major philosopby switch with Marino, he overhauled the whole shebang, and by Marino's first full season he was back in the SB ... this time getting absolutely mauled by the 49ers.  

    never won another title, let alone never even made it back to try.  he had the most prolific player in history at his peak, yet never showed a damn thing for it. 

    "but wait, otb ... it's a TEAM GAME, and Miami had no support on defense, nor any running game to help!"

    you're 100% correct, dear reader. 

     Shula and Robbie knocked heads quite a bit about personnel and finances ... but the HC is responsible for getting the most out of his squad, and to work his Xs and Os to his best advantage.  Shula had a lot more clout than most, he wasn't necessarily an ally, but it's not as if he wasn't somewhat complicit in molding the team to fit Marino's strengths. 

    they did have success, and i guarantee the win over the '85 Bears was as great to him as any SB, but he never matched the early 70s magic again ... matter of fact, the AFCCG win in Three Rivers in '72  (Larry Seiple fake punt) was his last road playoff victory. ever.  


    Tom Landry - 11 pts., HCQ 31.4

    the man in the hat, 29 seasons in Dallas, guiding an expansion franchise to the seat of most glamorous property in the league. 

    a visionary DC with the Jints (Lombardi on the same  Jints staff as OC), Landry got the call in 1960, and got right the #### to work. 

    a winless opening campaign was followed by 4 more losing seasons before finally hitting .500 in his sixth season ... then it was as GAME ON as any coach we've ever seen. 

    beginning in 1966, he would rip off 20 straight winning seasons - 18 of them in the playoffs, 12 times to the NFCCG, 5 times to the SB, with 2 titles for his efforts - from 1970 to 1982, he coached them to 10 NFCCGs in 13 seasons ... that's Hoodie-esque right there. 

    had phenomenal squads in the late 60s that just couldn't get over the Lombardi (team of the 60s) hump (Ice Bowl, anyone?) ... then ran into the team of the 70s twice in SBs X and XIII. 

    had a rap of not being able to win the big one ... losing to Lombardi was one thing, but dropping SB V to the Colts really set it in legit motion. 

    midway through the '71 season he decided to switch to Staubach full time (Roger had been alternating series, and even downs, with Craig Morton) ... they ran the table, and crushed the Fish in SB VI 24-3, still the only team not to have a TD of any kind scored against them in the SB, iirc. 

    missed the playoffs for the first time in 8 seasons in '74, and did a complete rebuild, adding 12 rookies to the '75 roster, and digging the shotgun outta mothballs. 

    they made it to SB X, where they gave a very superior defending champion Stiller team all they could handle (Cliff Harris taunting Gerela, and Lambert flipping Harris' ###, was the turning point, NOT Lynn Swann ... we'll revisit this in my LB rankings).

    rallied back in '77 with perhaps the best team he ever had, finishing #1 in both offense and defense ... a 27-10 beatdown of the Orange Crush in SB XII delivered him his second SB title. 

    back to the Stillers in SB XIII, and, what can ya say ... they (Noll) had his number (i was gonna rank Chuck ahead for this reason, and my HCQ backed it up) ... mater of fact, Landry never beat Noll, not even in the rare regular season game or two they had. 

    Staubach retired after a disastrous loss to the Rams in '79, and i think Landry was relieved - the concussions and age (37) were taking a toll ... as much as they complemented each other, Roger drove Landry nuts, as Tom was a very disciplined X and O guy, while Staubach was the greatest improviser the game had seen up to that point.

    enter the Danny White era, where the excellence would continue, but three straight losses in the NFCCG took a ton of starch outa the franchise, especially with one of them being the symbolic pasing of the NFC big guns torch to Walsh/Montana in '81(beating the Cowboys team Landry called his best ever), and another torch (NFC East Kings) to Gibbs/Theisman in '82. 

    the league caught up, and the game started passing him by .... worst was a 44-0 drubbing at the hands of one time assistant Ditka.  ouch.  

    Jerruh Jones ended the era in early '89, and rightfully so, imo. it may have been an unceremonious kick to a giant of the game, but this is a business when it's all said and done. 

    his innovations on both sides of the ball were extraordinary, no coach has ever thought more outside the box, or had more success in doing so ... he really had a knack of getting the most out of his personnel, and to have them buy into his philosophies and regiments.  the 70s were the Golden Age, and the man in the hat was as big a player as any.   


    Chuck Noll - 12 pts., HCQ 38.7

    i picked at him in the thread for never winning big without his core of H.o.F. talent.  and he didn't. 

    but, man ... did he win with them.  i weighted the metric to reward excellence, with consistency and winning also factored in ... Noll did it all. 

    sure, he had the greatest team, but that does not always necessitate the greatest results.  he had that crew from their rookie diapers right up to their yellow blazers ... he built, molded, scolded, coached ... WON. 

    they were a laughing stock for quite awhile, and that had to effin' blow for such a hardscrabble city ... but, hey, Rooney was beloved regardless 🤔

    they (Rooneys) struck gold with Noll's '69 hire ... they plucked him off Shula's Colts staff, and away they went.   the former LB/G came in and established a system tailored after his personality: tough, yet fair ... firm discipline to the Xs and Os, but "player's coach" enough to blur some barriers (he was only 37 at that time). but that didn't make him anyone's friend ... he had a gritty work ethic, and he started laying it down from jump ... he was the boss. 

    the drafts were perhaps the greatest the league has ever seen ... his first ever draft pick was Mean Joe, himself - talk about two incredible building blocks, eh? 

    after 3 losing seasons to open his career, he won the first of nine division titles in '72 ... bounced out by the Fish in the AFCCG, then right back at it in '73, winning the wild card berth, but losing to the Raiders in the first round. 

    the foundation was coming along nicely, but the house needed some more pizzazz and "oooomph!"

    enter the '74 draft, greatest a team ever had ... Swann, Stallworth, Lambert, Webster - ayfkm?  four future H.o.F. inductees in one afternoon ... holy ####.  

    now he had to mesh all this talent together, had to find a way to best utilize his strengths - and it all came to fruition that year in SB IX, as they thoroughly slapped a turtle Vikings team all over Rice Stadium ... this was all Franco and the o-line and, of course,  the CURTAIN!

    back the next year for the pesky Cowboys, and two of the second year players pretty much began getting fitted for their blazers in that one, as Lambert's ferocity and Swann's acrobatics finally nailed the door shut on Landry's upset bid. 

    the Raiders and Broncos filled the next two years up, and the Stillers lost to both AFC SB reps in the playoffs those years ('76, '77).

    by the time Noll had them back to the big one the game had undergone severe rules changes, allowing the passing game to flourish more ... he adapted on both sides of the ball, and won back to back for the second time, in SBs XIII & XIV.

    the defense he built through the draft and coaching would become the dominant force throughout the decade ... and the offensive pieces assembled also had their chance to shine as the game plans shifted more to facilitate the aerial attack - so, although he had that ridiculous core throughout, he won in different manners, utilizing every last ounce of talent to procure the necessary edge.  much respect.  

    never lost a Super Bowl, was wise and tough enough to manage a superior pool of talent to his meticulous wont ... he gave players the chance, most notably mining the talents of the African American colleges and Universities ... the first black QB to start was Joe Gilliam, under Noll's tutelage.

    he did get back to the AFCCG in '84, with a bunch that had no business being there ... he bagged his only NFL Coach of the Year award for that accomplishment. 

    he missed the playoffs the next 4 years, not returning again 'til '89 ... he hung 'em up for good after the 1991 season. 

    16-8 postseason record, undefeated in 4 Super Bowls ... and the unquestioned leader of one of the greatest dynasties ever assembled ... he had to make it all work, he had to get the results - and he sure as hell did. 


    ... back in a couple hours to finish. 

    Absolutely genius commentary on Landry.  I cut my teeth as a kid Cowboy fan when he was nattily patrolling the sidelines, and you just nailed him with your analysis.  Great job overall, too.  Props!!  

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  4. 19 hours ago, shader said:

    Yeah he’s talking total crap now.  Everyone should have him on ignore . His postings are as bad as plandemic.  A steady stream of disinformation for the last three months. 

    France was ravaged.  Yet a new study shows they’ve barely scratched the surface of the population.



    I made an . . . adjustment to the thread/board about two weeks ago and it greatly increased my ability to read and enjoy the thread . . . . 

  5. 16 hours ago, Tom Servo said:

    I haven't been in this thread for a while.  However, I'm going to share some personal stuff here.

    My brother just turned 48.  He been afflicted with liver cancer for the last year or so.  The other day, he was putting a pot away in the kitchen and his arm went Dave Dravecky and broke.  It turns out the cancer has reached his bones.

    As if that weren't bad enough, they take him to the hospital where they discover he also has COVID-19.  :cry: At this point, it's a matter of which one gets him first.


    Oh, I'm so very sorry to hear this, Tom.  All the very best wishes to him and you and his family.  

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  6. 9 hours ago, IvanKaramazov said:

    When this is all over, it's going to fascinating to read the historical account of why South Korea was able to pull this off but the US wasn't.  Obviously there are some differences involving population size and culture that will account for some of that, but the US should have been among the global leaders when it comes to testing.  

    Well . . . for very sound reasons we can't get into too much of a debate about this here rather than another forum, but just so I understand, is the main reason for the difference in pandemic-controlling success between this country and South Korea (which incidentally also managed to hold a national election this week) really that much of a mystery?  Or are you just looking forward to reading about it whatever the cause may be?  

  7. 10 hours ago, chet said:

    Background on why these viruses keep originating in China.


    Disgusting, inhumane and cruel.  And no surprise that even in China, these horrible "wet markets" continued to exist because they catered to the rich and powerful.  

    That's a very informative video (thanks, Chet) that should put to rest any nonsense about this having been a bioweapon that got out of control.     

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  8. 22 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

    I nominate Duke vs. Lehigh and Duke vs. Mercer on loop.

    Maybe all the times UMCP lost in embarrassing fashion instead, which would provide many more hours.  The 2001 Gone in 54 Seconds game and the same-year Final Four choke job against Duke are really fun to watch and could provide some excellent entertainment.  Just thinking out loud.  

  9. 19 minutes ago, CletiusMaximus said:

    I work for a small company, and we're pretty well spread out in our own offices, so its easy for us to maintain distance and not interact. The issue we're talking about is driven by parents' need to stay home when their schools and daycares close.  Our fearless leader is focused on productivity, trust, etc. associated with WFH.  I've told him - people with kids are going to need to stay home. We can either prepare for it now or deal with it next week when it happens.  Its not a question of what our policy is or whether we "allow" it.

    People taking this seriously are rightly focused on the infection, hospitalization and mortality rates.  However, what we already know is going to happen, with 100% certainty, is that people are going to miss paychecks and many businesses are going to be crushed by quarantines due to lost business and missing workers.  Unfortunately in our country, there is a very large percentage of people who can't easily miss even one paycheck.  Before too long, the effect will trickle upward as people miss rent and mortgage payments, or take on debt to buy essentials.  I think there's a risk here for a massive economic ripple effect, not directly caused by the virus, but caused by the cancellations and shut-down of our communities across many different industries.


    Yes.  The federal government is going to have to act with measures ranging from propping up state UE funds to some sort of UBI.  

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  10. 32 minutes ago, Big League Chew said:

    Guessing people are hoarding TP because that’s the normal panic thing to do


    and or

    they are worried about cargo ships being held and unable to unload the toilet paper so there may be a shortage 

    TP is made, amazingly, in the U.S.


    33 minutes ago, Scoresman said:

    If you were taking a relatively nearby trip Saturday and had the choice of a 1 hour flight vs. 7 hours of driving, which would you choose in this case?  Not going isn't an option considering where we're going does not even have a reported case yet and we'd be better off there than here.  


    Seriously?   The virus is everywhere.   There haven't been reported cases because of failures in testing.  I wouldn't base your travel decisions on that factor.  Also, sitting in a plane is not a great idea.  

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  11. Just read the last several pages after getting up.  Great posts and insights from everyone except Wingnut.  

    What a fun Super Bowl.  Just a blast from beginning to end. 

    Congrats so much to the Chiefs and their fans.  Classy team and organization with a terrific fan base and a great and unheralded sports city collects another championship following after the Royals.  Mahomes is incredible with that arm and poise.  Their defense didn't get much ink but their gameplan was perfect and a couple of guys like Bashaud Breeland really stepped up.  Also I believe it's possible to win after paying your young QB and I will be interested to see how they handle that.  Picking up unsung gems on D and the o-line will be important.  So will the ability of whoever succeeds Reid whenever that happens.  Bieniemy seems like the real deal.  Loved that spin move he came up with.  

    Aikman & Buck called an excellent game (I already shouted out the sideline duo) and Vinovich and his crew did a very, very good job.  (Vinovich's low-key but still authoritative  presence is perfect for an NFL ref.)  I love Kittle but that was clearly OPI.  I admire that the side judge/field judge (I'm assuming) who tossed the flag wasn't afraid to do so in the Super Bowl.  

    Great game.  Congrats to KC, the city and their fans.  

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