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  1. And to be fair, “I am NOT a time traveler from antiquity” is exactly what a time traveler from antiquity trying to pass himself off as a man from the current day would say, so I am asking people to make a leap of faith on that.
  2. Kobe’s action IMO registers a lot higher on the Quit scale because he his health was fine, but he went out there in the second half and barely engaged in the action, put a lot more effort into talking trash about his teammates to fans and press seated courtside. The most important thing to him in that moment was to make sure his teammates got as much blame as possible for the loss. I’m also uncomfortable elevating Kobe to a comparison to Biles for other reasons. One that stands out is Kobe in all likelihood committed sexual assault. When the charged crime was being investigated, Kobe’s team, his league, and the court system worked very hard to accommodate him so he could keep playing while accused of the crime. And after it was settled out of court, his team, his league, and his sponsors worked very hard to rehabilitate his image. Contrast that with Biles, who was one of many, many victims within USA Gymnastics, and the system worked to silence her and the other victims, and tried very hard to protect her perpetrator.
  3. I would like to take this opportunity to assert that I am NOT a time traveler from the age of antiquity, so the mindset of the ancients shouldn’t apply to what I said.
  4. (I will eventually bring this back to Simone Biles.) I've been around a lot of young 99th percentile people in a wide range of endeavors: sport, art, music, academics, what have you... if you're going to develop that 99th percentile talent to its maximum, a lot of other stuff won't get developed. It takes too many hours to become elite and keep up with the others in your 99th percentile. And in sports, individual sports in particular, the commitment at that level is so complete it dominates not just the athlete's life, but several family members as well. You usually have to move to particular region or city to train with the right coach or live in the right climate. You're often homeschooled so there's extra practice hours in the day and it's easier to travel to competitions. So you have this childhood where you're not asked to be a dynamic personality, and you're surrounded by people committed to your wants and needs and aren't asked to reciprocate. So you have this deep, deep skill and understanding in your area of expertise, but haven't developed much outside it. In short, these young 99th percentiles I was around were often #######s. And not necessarily their own fault - maybe they were never taught how not to be an #######, or maybe their coaches wanted to intensify the ####### part of the athlete's personality because they thought it would give them an edge. When success and fame hits, there's a reckoning with the ####### side of you. For most, you've got about 18-24 months once you hit it big to tame the ####### within or it's going to set and be a core part of you the rest of the way. If it happens when you're young and haven't been given the tools to come with us, it's harder to tame. Phelps beat the odds twice. He was a generational talent who more than delivered on his promise, and then he tamed his inner ####### and has become this thoughtful man who wants others to learn not just from his successes, but also his weaknesses and setbacks. I find that admirable. I promised I would bring this back to Simone Biles. Gymnastics isn't a team sport. It's barely an individual sport. It's almost a solitary endeavor. There isn't much camaraderie. There's other athletes at your gym, but at meets you're competing against them, not with them. And there's soooooo little room at the top, it's almost impossible to celebrate a peer's success, because at the elite level it's a zero-sum game. These teammates Biles supposedly let down at Tokyo? They are her opponents and adversaries most of the year. Even at "team" events like the Olympics and Worlds, the USA individuals are still competing against each other because there are only so many slots in individual events for each nation. In every apparatus, someone with a qualifying score gets left out because too many ahead of you are from your country. And if you want an individual gold medal, you've gotta beat your "teammates" to get it. So it's hard enough as it is designed. And Biles had to play a game rigged against her. All these other all-time greats from other sports thrown around in comparisons here... how many of them had to beat their own teammates to achieve their goals? How many of them had coaches who were low-level tacticians and theorists, openly saying they didn't have to plan anything because they had an all-time great? How many of them were told by the sport's governing body that your skills weren't going to count what they are worth because that would be unfair to your opponents? How many of them were sexually assaulted by the team doctor repeatedly while their team management covered it up? Simone Biles did. She was told she had to play a rigged game, she beat it, and tried to change it. When the elite gyms weren't safe for gymnasts, Biles's family opened one of their own, with a lot of open space and transparency to make it a safe space for young athletes and coaches who wanted to train athletes in a better way. When Biles heard Jordan Chiles's gym wasn't safe, Biles recruited Chiles to move to Texas and train at her gym. When Larry Nassar was finally brought to justice, Biles stayed in the sport and on the national team, partially to go for a second Olympics, but also to force some accountability for Nassar's enablers. So, I guess I'm having difficulty understanding what Biles's detractors think she owes us. Who did she quit on? The athletes she was competing against? The team officials that knew she was being sexually assaulted and did nothing? The sport that openly conspired against her and told her she wasn't going to get the scores she earned? Simone Biles is the GOAT in her sport, and second place is so far behind none of her detractors can produce a name who should replace Biles at the top if she isn't the one. She's one of the greatest in any sport. She's better at gymnastics than billions of people have ever been at anything. And she accomplished all of this by age 24. I'm pretty comfortable calling Biles a hero.
  5. The calling for an average person to do the event right before the Olympians compete so we can appreciate how difficult the events are would certainly apply here. Longtime swim/Olympics fans… I might be imagining this, don’t know the right terms to search for it on YouTube or Wikipedia… was there once an Olympic swimmer who figured out a backstroke loophole and did the entire first lap underwater? Launched off the blocks, did that dolphin-on-back thing down to the bottom of the pool and just kept going? I can’t figure out how to confirm/refute this, and it’s bugging me.
  6. This Olympics is the first time I've found Phelps endearing. He has some really interesting and thoughtful things to say about elite competition, mental health, and the technical side of world-class level swimming (the latter of which I know absolutely nothing about beyond "get to the other end of the pool before the others do"). I've enjoyed hearing him speak at length and comfort in his areas of expertise. And he looks great with the beard.
  7. Meh. There isn't a lot from Ben Shapiro's (gestures vaguely at everything about him) that suggests "let people be people" is a guiding principle of his. He's contributed to and benefited from societal polarization way too much to suddenly lament it now.
  8. I’ve seen this on social media. While I agree with the greater points it is making and am glad it is making the rounds. there are a few unforced factual errors in it…. The actual circumstances and stakes of Strug’s second vault were already covered previously, so I’ll skip that part. The senior age minimum at the time was only 14, so Atlanta was Strug’s second Olympics. Because of the toll the sport had already taken on her body, there wasn’t any expectation of Strug competing internationally after 1996. Because she was only 18, there was a possibility of competing at the NCAA level post-Olympics, but because of endorsement money she had already accepted it's highly unlikely she would have been cleared to be eligible. The Atlanta Games were probably going to be her last high-level competition no matter how her vaults in the team competition went. Dominique Moceanu didn’t retire from injuries shortly after Atlanta. Two years later, she won the All-Around at the 1998 Goodwill Games, the biggest international gymnastics meet of that year. She was indeed a generational talent who drew comparisons to Nadia Commaneci, and injuries did derail her bid to make the 2000 Olympic team. But it’s incorrect to say Moceanu retired shortly after Atlanta when she was the de facto world champion two years later. None of this alters Heath’s greater points. I like his main ideas and how he said them. But it bugged me that he got some of the facts wrong, especially since the truth isn’t in the way of what he’s trying to say.
  9. A quick synopsis of Simone Biles’s career… Simone Biles joined the senior international gymnastics circuit in 2013. And she’s been the best gymnast in the world since. The crown jewel of Artistic Gymnastics is the All-Around competition in the World Championships and Olympics. You have to be world-class in all four apparatuses to even qualify. And because the skill sets in all four are so different, penalties for mistakes are so severe, injuries are so frequent, and the window of peak performance is so narrow, it is rare for a gymnast to win the All-Around at the Worlds more than once, and rare for a gymnast to compete in more than one Olympics. Simone Biles has won the All-Around at Worlds five times. Add her Olympics All-Around gold in 2016, and Biles has won the crown jewel six times. Biles has also won apparatus gold at Worlds on Floor, Beam, and Vault, and in 2019 she won all three, This would be like leading the NBA in points, rebounds, and assists in the same season. Here’s a recap of her golds at the Worlds and Olympics before Tokyo: 2013 Worlds: All-Around, Floor 2014 Worlds: All-Around, Floor, Beam 2015 Worlds: All-Around, Floor, Beam 2016 Olympics: All-Around, Floor, Vault 2017: (Did not compete, contemplated retirement) 2018 Worlds: All-Around, Floor, Vault 2019 Worlds: All-Around, Floor, Beam, Vault 2020: (no Olympics or Worlds due to Covid) (Biles has also won three silvers and three bronzes in apparatuses at Worlds. But the list was getting kinda long.) Had Biles retired after the 2016 Olympics, she would have left the sport as unquestionably the greatest who ever did it. No one in the sport’s history can match the difficulty of her routines, her excellence in execution, and the length of time she has been at the top. Biles took a year off after Rio, and when she returned she won Worlds again. And again. The Worlds have been staged 49 times, going back to 1903. Only 8 women have won at least five career individual gold medals in the Worlds via all-around or individual apparatus. Biles has won 15. No one else is in double digits. Add Biles’s four team golds, and she has double the gold of any other competitor. In fact, if you split Biles’s career into “Birth-To-Rio” and “After Rio”, Birth-To-Rio Biles would be the most decorated gymnast ever, and After Rio Biles would be the third-most decorated, behind Birth-To-Rio Biles and Svetlana Khorkina. Another measure of an elite gymnast is eponymous skills. When you successfully complete a skill no one else has done before in a top competition, the skill gets named after you. It is a big honor, your name gets written into the sport’s history, and your name gets called out when a subsequent gymnast hits the skill. It is very rare for a world-class gymnast to have one eponymous skill by the time they retire. Biles has four: a Beam dismount, a Vault, and two Floor tumbling passes. In fact, her skill level is so high, her difficulty scores are knowingly artificially low - FIG chose not to rate some of her Difficulty properly for dubious reasons not worth getting into here. So when you see someone argue that Biles isn’t GOAT because of [grievance issued against Biles based on things that happened in 2021]”, understand the label of GOAT for Biles was settled years ago. The last four years have been Biles continuing to separate herself from past champions, current peers, and making it tougher for future gymnasts to challenge her for the title.
  10. (repost from Olympics thread, clearing up some misconceptions about Kerri Strug's vault in the 1996 Olympics) To protect the next person tempted to bring up Kerri Strug: Strug’s vault in 96 that made her a hero was actually a really selfish act. USA didn’t need Strug’s vault to win gold, and they knew they had enough points to win before she threw her second vault. Karolyi knew the team event was won, but coaxed Strug to vault again for selfish reasons. At the time, the Optionals portion of the team competition was also the qualifier for the individual all-around and apparatus finals. And at the time, the individual finals were limited to three rep per country. Strug vaulted that second time because if she landed it, she would pass Dominique Moceanu (who was competing with a stress fracture in one leg, and botched her vault) and grab the third USA slot in the all-around a couple days later. That’s why Karolyi coaxed Strug back up to vault again - he knew Moceanu was too hurt to medal in the all-around and wanted Strug to pass Moceanu in the individual scoring.
  11. The mass disassociation of top coaches from the USA national program was not lost on me with the Nassar stuff finally disclosed. Mihai Brestyan (Aly Raisman, Alicia Sacramone) left the national team to run Australia’s gymnastics program for a while. Liang Chow (Shawn Johnson, Gabby Douglas) coached the China team this cycle, and has put out a few thinly veiled shots at the USA program in the press. Valeri Liukin (Nastia Liukin, Carly Patterson) had Marta Karolyi’s old job for a while post-Rio, but left in 2018 and took the Brazil job, a move that makes no sense on paper. Whether it’s because they knew too much about Nassar or knew too little, I have no idea.
  12. To protect the next person tempted to bring up Kerri Strug: Strug’s vault in 96 that made her a hero was actually a really selfish act. USA didn’t need Strug’s vault to win gold, and they knew they had enough points to win before she threw her second vault. Karolyi knew the team event was won, but coaxed Strug to vault again for selfish reasons. At the time, the Optionals portion of the team competition was also the qualifier for the individual all-around and apparatus finals. And at the time, the individual finals were limited to three rep per country. Strug vaulted that second time because if she landed it, she would pass Dominique Moceanu (who was competing with a stress fracture in one leg, and botched her vault) and grab the third USA slot in the all-around a couple days later. That’s why Karolyi coaxed Strug back up to vault again - he knew Moceanu was too hurt to medal in the all-around and wanted Strug to pass Moceanu in the individual scoring. (Strug was too injured to compete in the individual competitions, and Moceanu took Strug’s place in the all-around,)
  13. You might have read that. But it’s wrong. The Olympics gymnastics team final has been “three up, three count” since 2004.
  14. Oh man. That’s rough, and I’m sure that’s going on with Finance teams all over the country right now. I was working at a two-year college when the housing crisis tanked the economy. We knew we were going to have a gigantic spike in enrollment of both the 18-year-olds who were going to stay home for a year instead of going away for school, plus an influx of non-traditional students who had job disruptions and would go back to school to change careers. But since we couldn’t forecast it with much precision, it was a huge cluster#### adding course sections and staff at the last minute. And all that didn’t have to factor in things like on-campus housing of any kind, much less making good on guarantees of on-campus housing without knowing how many to house. OMG what schools are going through now are that snafu times a hundred.
  15. Good call on the Burbank airport. Closer to Pepperdine, and not LAX so the logistics of getting in/out/through the airport will be a lot faster. When we did our SoCal college visits, we used the Ontario airport because it’s so close to the Claremont Colleges and we wanted to look at a couple of those. Liked the people we met at Claremont a lot, intrigued by the collective of small schools giving a small-school feel with the resources of a larger school. (I wished I’d heard of them when I was looking at colleges - I think I would have liked Claremont McKenna a lot.). We went a different route, but definitely a place we would recommend to others.
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