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  1. Take that Opie & Anthony! where is your heroine addict boys?

    Give them a week. They'll find one.
    Vos was a crackhead a long time ago. :shrug:

    Hoo hoo, I invented opium Robin.

    I'm responsible for every single dollar that enters the U.S. economy, just like I'm responsible for every satellite radio subscription. Tell 'em Fred.

    Bigger than cell phones! The delusional ##### actually told his audience, "Bubba says I'm growing bigger than cell phones!"

    :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

    Still waiting for him to step up and actually defend his daughter like any other normal parent would instead of just referring to her as a "good kid".

  2. You guys that don't think he's funny.  Just asking, how old are you?  I can see how people over 30 wouldn't find him funny.  I think he's hilarious.

    32

    don't really see why that should matter though. funny's funny.

    This is true to an extent but people of different ages and different eras have different senses of humor. I at 26 don't have the same sense of humor as my parents who are both close to 50. I am a little more up to date on what is going on now and they would not even get some new age jokes.

    Also demographics plays a large role in humor as well. I really think Larry the Cable guy is not funny at all, but I can acknowledge that he would work with a crowd which we stereo type as being "red necks" and I can see how they would think he is funny. Just like Jeff Foxworthy.

    To say humor works with everyone is as likely as saying everyone should like a good musician because good music is good music. Comedians have different styles of performing just like James Blunt is different than Metallica.

    This isn't a rip on younger people (I'm 39), but there are certain kinds of humor that just aren't that funny as you get older. Not saying that you're dumb when you are 20. But I have heard thousands of jokes at this point, so a comedian needs to show me something new or different.

    Chapelle also is very good at this, but not so much in the stand up comedy department.

    You need to see him perform stand-up before you can make a statement like that. To this day, Chappelle was the funniest comedy show I had ever seen. He did 90 minutes (would have done more if Foxwoods let him) and every joke had me (and everyone else in the crowd) rolling. His one bit on "dirty $3 strippers" puts most comedians' entire catalogues to shame!
  3. I just wouldn't put him in my Top 10 of stand-ups out there today.

    he is ok, but I wouldn't put him in the top 100 out there. 

    Please name the rest of your lists. Here's some mentioned in this thread

    Brian Regan

    Greg Giraldo

    Dave Atelle

    Bob Saget

    Dave Chapelle

    "the guy with the puppets"

    Chris Rock

    Jim Norton

    Mitch Hedberg

    Lewis Black

    Keith Robinson

    Andrew Dice Clay

    George Carlin

    Martin Lawrence

    Louis Anderson

    Emo Phillips

    I think he would be fairly high on that list for me. Then again, I've never heard Robinson, Norton or Atelle.

    I also like that John Pinella or whatever his name is - the "you go now" guy.

    From the comedians mentioned here, I would place Regan, Attell, Chappelle, Norton, Rock, Hedberg, Black, Clay, and (naturally) Carlin above Cook. In some cases, worlds ahead. Robinson, I only heard of from the Norton/Attell show and the hecklers made it impossible to hear his set. I've heard amazing things about Bob Saget but other than his cameo in "Half Baked", I haven't seen his work as a stand-up. So the jury's out on those two. I'd probably take Cook's performances over the remainder of the list.

    Among those not listed here, I prefer Mario Cantone, Stephen Lynch, Lisa Lampenelli (yes, I find a chick comic funnier than Cook), Ralphie May, Bill Burr, Jeffrey Ross, Richard Jeni, Sam Kinison (RIP), and Adam Ferrara to Dane Cook.

    Again, this isn't to say that I hate Cook or that I don't enjoy some of his material. I just don't think he's hilarious and I certainly don't understand his current wave of popularity.

    :thumbup:

    I can get on board with a bunch of these. Although I think Carlin has slipped too much to put him ahead of Cook, and it may not be possible to see Hedberg anymore. Interesting that a bunch of people were trashing Black here last week and now you're saying you'd put him ahead of Cook. I like both.

    Thanks for the list, and feel free to add more. I'll check some of these out.

    I didn't participate in the Black debate so I don't know what went on there.

    Carlin is now the "elder statesman" among comedians with Dangerfield and Pryor having passed on. He's definitely lost a step over the years, but nobody tells a better story or has a greater memory to rattle off a series of names or events than he does. Although I wasn't crazy about his last HBO special (which served as the material for his latest tour), that opening segment with the buzzwords was something that even today's brightest young comedian wouldn't be able to pull off.

    I liked Hedberg's style of one-liner "making you think" comedy. His deadpan delivery is similar to Steven Wright's old stuff. Definitely a big loss for the standup world.

    And I just have to say, I always like Brian Regan. But I never realized that he works completely clean (started hearing his bits on Opie & Anthony's show, pre-XM)! In today's world, where "shocking" seems to take precedence over creativity, it's very refreshing. The guy is hilarious and I don't think he's ever used a word harsher than "a-s-s*". Good role model for up-and-coming comedians. I wonder if he rec'd Bill Cosby's "seal of approval"?

    *--Mods, you're killing me with this "over-censoring"! I can't replace "S" with "Z" to use the "a-word" for "butt"?

  4. The second was because I was trying to see if anyone (O&A fan or Stern fan) had an update about the "Walk Over" incident that happened on Friday's O&A show.

    Long story short, a Stern fan interrupted O&A on their way from CBS studios to XM studios and kept saying why Stern ruled and they sucked. They allowed him to keep ripping on them but when he said "you guys suck and you just steal from Howard", Anthony replied "yeah, we steal all of his radio stations and fans." The fan had no reply, and grabbed their producer (Ben Sparks) by the throat and threw him against the wall. In an instant, O&A's security guards (a bodyguard and a former cop) wrestled the guy to the ground, made him give an embarrassing on-air apology while in a headlock, and waited for the cops to arrive.

    The guy claimed that Sparks spit on him but the O&A crew said they were filming the entire thing and that never happened. The situation is still up in the air but XM didn't allow the incident to be reaired or referenced in replays that followed. Their website also didn't have an update so I figured I'd come here.

    Theres a good reason nobody has heard about this.

    Think long and hard and you may come up with it

    Because you're too drunk on the Howie Kool-Aid to pay attention to anything else? :shrug:
  5. I just wouldn't put him in my Top 10 of stand-ups out there today.

    he is ok, but I wouldn't put him in the top 100 out there. 

    Please name the rest of your lists. Here's some mentioned in this thread

    Brian Regan

    Greg Giraldo

    Dave Atelle

    Bob Saget

    Dave Chapelle

    "the guy with the puppets"

    Chris Rock

    Jim Norton

    Mitch Hedberg

    Lewis Black

    Keith Robinson

    Andrew Dice Clay

    George Carlin

    Martin Lawrence

    Louis Anderson

    Emo Phillips

    I think he would be fairly high on that list for me. Then again, I've never heard Robinson, Norton or Atelle.

    I also like that John Pinella or whatever his name is - the "you go now" guy.

    From the comedians mentioned here, I would place Regan, Attell, Chappelle, Norton, Rock, Hedberg, Black, Clay, and (naturally) Carlin above Cook. In some cases, worlds ahead. Robinson, I only heard of from the Norton/Attell show and the hecklers made it impossible to hear his set. I've heard amazing things about Bob Saget but other than his cameo in "Half Baked", I haven't seen his work as a stand-up. So the jury's out on those two. I'd probably take Cook's performances over the remainder of the list.

    Among those not listed here, I prefer Mario Cantone, Stephen Lynch, Lisa Lampenelli (yes, I find a chick comic funnier than Cook), Ralphie May, Bill Burr, Jeffrey Ross, Richard Jeni, Sam Kinison (RIP), and Adam Ferrara to Dane Cook.

    Again, this isn't to say that I hate Cook or that I don't enjoy some of his material. I just don't think he's hilarious and I certainly don't understand his current wave of popularity.

  6. Had to listen to O&A this morning (car in the shop)

    Yes, it was painful...30 minutes of crap followed by 20 minutes of commercials...awesome

    Funny & original = crap? :rolleyes: Geez, I guess nothing compares to "you're a girl? You ever do another girl? You do anal? ANAL? Huh, do ya? No seriously. Anal. Do you?" That's as riveting now as it's been the last 20+ years.

    :sarcasm:

    I'm curious as to why you would click on this thread. :confused:

    Two reasons: I used to enjoy Stern but being a fan of Opie & Anthony his "everybody copies me" and "O&A are just Howard Stern ripoffs" gets old, particularly because it's not at all true.

    The second was because I was trying to see if anyone (O&A fan or Stern fan) had an update about the "Walk Over" incident that happened on Friday's O&A show.

    Long story short, a Stern fan interrupted O&A on their way from CBS studios to XM studios and kept saying why Stern ruled and they sucked. They allowed him to keep ripping on them but when he said "you guys suck and you just steal from Howard", Anthony replied "yeah, we steal all of his radio stations and fans." The fan had no reply, and grabbed their producer (Ben Sparks) by the throat and threw him against the wall. In an instant, O&A's security guards (a bodyguard and a former cop) wrestled the guy to the ground, made him give an embarrassing on-air apology while in a headlock, and waited for the cops to arrive.

    The guy claimed that Sparks spit on him but the O&A crew said they were filming the entire thing and that never happened. The situation is still up in the air but XM didn't allow the incident to be reaired or referenced in replays that followed. Their website also didn't have an update so I figured I'd come here.

  7. Cook seems like a hack to me. His prepared material isn't very funny, and his improv skills are probably no better. I agree with ClickClack that he probably couldn't handle hecklers so he threatens to have them removed instead of embarassing them the way most good comedians would.

    I guess it's a personal preference thing. I can't stand when comedians feel they have to fight back against the heckler. It takes them out of a groove and ruins the show for the rest of the audience. It also rarely works as it just gets the heckler more riled up and encourages more hecklers.

    Maybe I appreciate what Cook did because of my last two stand-up experiences. I saw Carlin in Boston and when a heckler kept razzing him, a flustered Carlin (which just shows his age, because since when does Carlin get flustered?) said "can someone please stick a "D" in that guy's mouth? It's obvious that's what he wants. Nobody paid their money to hear you talk.") He was legit pissed and it took him a good few minutes before he went back to his material.

    Last month, I saw a great show with Jim Norton, Dave Attell and Keith Robinson. Since there was a huge Opie & Anthony crowd on hand (and Norton is the 3rd man on O&A's two daily radio shows) they kept interrupting Attell's set (which was hilarious) with things like "Norton was better". He spent 5-10 minutes going back and forth with the hecklers which interrupted a great show and just encouraged other douchebags to chime in.

    With Cook, I don't doubt he can verbally berate a heckler. But why bother? His fans wanted to hear him, not a "love me daddy" jackoff. I just wish more comedians would take his approach.

  8. I'm going by the fact that he had the highest charting comedy CD is 20 years and was the first comedian since Andrew Dice Clay in 1990 to host the show with no TV show, movie, or any other exciting thing going on other than his position on the Billboard charts.

    I didn't know his CD sold that well. I can't believe any people find this guy funny and I'm generally pretty easily amused.

    also, host what show? SNL? doesn't he have a new show on HBO right now that he's promoting? it's terrible too.

    It was SNL. I must have made the change while you were writing your reply.

    He actually hosted SNL in the middle of the season, long before HBO's Tourgasm debuted so he wasn't close to promoting that at the time.

    I'm actually giving Tourgasm a fair shake since it's not focused heavily on the stand up comedy but a reality show of four comedians at four different career stages sharing a tour bus for 30 days. I enjoyed the first episode but was pretty bored by the second that aired tonight.

  9. Had to listen to O&A this morning (car in the shop)

    Yes, it was painful...30 minutes of crap followed by 20 minutes of commercials...awesome

    Funny & original = crap? :rolleyes: Geez, I guess nothing compares to "you're a girl? You ever do another girl? You do anal? ANAL? Huh, do ya? No seriously. Anal. Do you?" That's as riveting now as it's been the last 20+ years.

    :sarcasm:

  10. Dane Cook = anti-funny

    link to him being "America's favorite comedian"?

    I'm going by the fact that he had the highest charting comedy CD is 20 years and was the first comedian since Andrew Dice Clay in 1990 to host SNL with no TV show, movie, or any other exciting thing going on other than his position on the Billboard charts.

    I will give him this: He doesn't stand for BS from hecklers. Hecklers are the worst thing about live comedy shows and they should be ejected if they interfere with the rest of the audience's enjoyment. On his latest CD, when he stopped the show to tell a guy "STFV* or I'll have you removed", I earned a lot of respect for him. Comedians who just try to insult the guy into shutting up are missing the point (and I've seen the greatness that is George Carlin fall into this trap). If you're messing with a comedian's performance, you should get bounced. No questions asked. Cook hates hecklers and won't let them take him out of rhythm. Kudos to him. But he doesn't "bring the funny" all that much and I guess stand-up comedians should be, um, funny.

    *--The acronym for Shut the F up is censored. You're serious?

  11. This may seem sacrelige since I know he has a ton of fans worldwide (and on this board) but I don't find him all that funny. Maybe I don't get the jokes?!? Maybe it's visual? (I have his last two CDs that my wife bought me as a gift; never seen a standup special)

    I don't think he's terrible (ala Martin Lawrence, Louie Anderson, or Emo Philips) but he's not the "hilarious rock-star level comedian" that so many people make him out to be (think Chris Rock 1995 or Andrew Dice Clay 1988). He seems to depend on a lot of pop culture references, "dude-speak", and new-age observational humor. Nothing groundbreaking and I've never had a fellow comic fan tell me "you've just got to hear [insert bit here] from Dane Cook".

    Again, this isn't a fishing thread or a "let's tick off the Cook fans" post. A few things that he says does make me laugh but I just wouldn't put him in my Top 10 of stand-ups out there today. But does anyone else feel the same way about Cook? If you're a fan, can you explain to me where this explosion of popularity came from?

    Internet buzz in 2005.

    What about it? Was it a particular joke or bit?
  12. This may seem sacrelige since I know he has a ton of fans worldwide (and on this board) but I don't find him all that funny. Maybe I don't get the jokes?!? Maybe it's visual? (I have his last two CDs that my wife bought me as a gift; never seen a standup special)

    I don't think he's terrible (ala Martin Lawrence, Louie Anderson, or Emo Philips) but he's not the "hilarious rock-star level comedian" that so many people make him out to be (think Chris Rock 1995 or Andrew Dice Clay 1988). He seems to depend on a lot of pop culture references, "dude-speak", and new-age observational humor. Nothing groundbreaking and I've never had a fellow comic fan tell me "you've just got to hear [insert bit here] from Dane Cook".

    Again, this isn't a fishing thread or a "let's tick off the Cook fans" post. A few things that he says does make me laugh but I just wouldn't put him in my Top 10 of stand-ups out there today. But does anyone else feel the same way about Cook? If you're a fan, can you explain to me where this explosion of popularity came from?

  13. Sirius isn't quite there yet, but they do have the edge when it comes to sports programming (NFL/NBA >>>> MLB/NCAA b-ball).

    Not quite there yet?

    They have the most important radio personality, probably in the history of radio and the NFL, as well as ESPN, Fox and CNN.

    The ONLY reason XM has more subscribers right now, is because they have been around longer. Its most definitely not because of the programming

    And nobody's getting Sirius for their top-notch technology. While Stern touts the portable unit as "revolutionary", Best Buy was flooded with returns from angry customers that still couldn't get their hands on a true portable unit.

    XM has more subscribers and O&A have more listeners. It may change if XM's subscriptions trail off and Sirius continues to grow, but for now, that's the way it is. O&A are the pioneers of satellite radio and Stern is still #2.

  14. If you're going to have arguments over which group of uncaring millionaires whom you've never met and never will meet - and yet to whose succeess or failures you've somehow linked your own sense of self-worth - is better, please take it to the Shark Pool and call it something like "Eagles Own the Cowboys," reserving this thread for people who enjoy listening to Howard Stern and want to comment about things they heard on his show.

    I believe this is a :goodposting: also. And I apologize to all Stern fans for hijacking their thread.

    I will just make one more point and then I will leave this thread for the Stern fans, I have met O&A before. I have sat down and had beers with them. They love their fans and will do remote shows for their fans in many different cities that they are in. You are right in saying that most Stern fans will never meet their hero, because he could care less about his fans. But O&A will go out of their way to hang with their fans and show them some appreciation.

    Howard = tool

    O&A = funny and down to earth

    What a goofball. Go start an O&A thread

    Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.

    Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?

    Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)

    I seriously think its completely ridiculous to compare the two. Im not really looking to add anything more to this than how nuts I think it is for o&a fans to come into a Howard Stern thread and try to compare the two, or even suggest they are even close to to being on the same level.

    How are they not? The two biggest shows in the genre. Both dominated terrestrial radio (Howard for mornings; O&A for afternoons). Same hardcore fan base. Same warped sense of humor. Howard has his set of bits and sketches; O&A have their own. They aren't clones. They aren't Stern imitators. They have just carved a niche in a much-imitated industry.

    O&A are the number one program on XM; Stern is number one on Sirius. Both are responsible for really driving subscriptions (although Stern is admittedly more influential in that dept). XM is still by far, the better technology and the company knows how to better spend their money (isn't it hypocritical for Stern to rip on XM for signing and paying Oprah Winfrey, the true "Queen of All Media", when Sirius has Martha F'n Stewart signed to a huge deal?!?). Sirius isn't quite there yet, but they do have the edge when it comes to sports programming (NFL/NBA >>>> MLB/NCAA b-ball).

    You really need to put down the Stern Kool Aid if you really believe, in 2006, that O&A don't matter. Just ask Stern's newest butt-kisser: Scott Farrell.

  15. If you're going to have arguments over which group of uncaring millionaires whom you've never met and never will meet - and yet to whose succeess or failures you've somehow linked your own sense of self-worth - is better, please take it to the Shark Pool and call it something like "Eagles Own the Cowboys," reserving this thread for people who enjoy listening to Howard Stern and want to comment about things they heard on his show.

    I believe this is a :goodposting: also. And I apologize to all Stern fans for hijacking their thread.

    I will just make one more point and then I will leave this thread for the Stern fans, I have met O&A before. I have sat down and had beers with them. They love their fans and will do remote shows for their fans in many different cities that they are in. You are right in saying that most Stern fans will never meet their hero, because he could care less about his fans. But O&A will go out of their way to hang with their fans and show them some appreciation.

    Howard = tool

    O&A = funny and down to earth

    What a goofball. Go start an O&A thread

    Wow, you really really have nothing to add to the conversation. I'm serious. Nothing. All you do is say "you know the facts! Stop spewing nonsense!" and can't say anything to back it up.

    Jaz, just told you, in detail, one of the many things that makes O&A better than Stern. What else do you want?

    Here's one more: O&A doesn't lie to fans. If Howard beats them, they'll admit it (and have in the past). When O&A win (which is often) Howard brushes it off or makes stuff up (they only have five people that harrass him and his radio buddies, Sirius can't make enough product to satisfy subscribers, Sirius doesn't make a pure portable unit because they want to get it right, etc., etc.)

  16. --O&A have more listeners than Stern (Doesn't matter how you spin it, 6 million+ is more than 4 million+)

    Get the hell outta here already willya. You know it, I know it and everybody else here knows Stern has alot more listeners. Dont give me supscription #s....you friggin kiddin me?

    O&A will never, NEVER be anywhere near Howard Stern's level. We know you prefer them, but stop trying to compare the shows, its just really stupid. There is a very good reason nobody knows O&A

    Not sure how much simpler I can put the fact. Jeez

    So glad you can think rationally without spewing "Howie facts". :rolleyes:
  17. But why do you think Howard should care about Opie and Anthony? You bring up DeBella or Mark and Brian. How long ago was that? He did what he had to to get to the point where he is now. He has no competition. O&A are meaningless to him and all they are trying to do is to get a response from him so they can get more publicity for themselves.

    I loved O&A on WNEW and I probably should try to listen to them more on DirecTV but I don't usually like sitting in my living room listening to my TV. They have a great show which is much different from Howard. Why don't they, and their fans, just worry about their own show? How many Stern fans really care about O&A?

    The show the other day with the fired DJ, Sal and Howards megaphone and Dice was one of the best shows I've EVER heard. Artie has really stepped up his game and since going to Sirius the show has been as good as it's ever been.

    --O&A have more listeners than Stern (Doesn't matter how you spin it, 6 million+ is more than 4 million+)

    --Stern admitted to putting a gag order on them (finally). He also said the most arrogant, hypocritical thing ever: "I believe in censorship when it's against me". IN addition, O&A could have handled not talking about him, but he also blocked guests from being on their show. This is why, if you listened during the NEW days, their biggest guests were Jay Mohr, Jim Breuer, and the guy who played Macauley (sp?) Culkin's bully brother in "Home Alone".

    --Stern claimed he was the first to play the unedited Pat O'Brien tapes. O&A did it 8 months earlier and got credit for it at the time.

    --Stern bashes XM for being behind the times when Sirius can't even get a damn pure portable unit (XM is ready to release their newest model that's thinner and plays MP3s; and before you rip me for towing the company line, I'm actually a Sirius investor so they're inability to put money behind their technology infuriates me more).

    Do you really need more?

  18. Stern fans: How has the show about the show that reviews the show about the show about the show doing? Is it as good as the show about the show about the show?

    Any new something the something characters on the regular show that I've missed since he signed off free radio?

    :shrug:

    Sometimes I listen to the aftershow stuff. I really don't care that much for it though. Gotta give Howard credit for throwing out lots of s to see what sticks. It might take him a year or so to really build a solid line-up.

    There's so much on Sirius that I don't listen to most of the other stuff. It gives me a chance to check out the rest of the great Sirius programming (Hard Attack!)

    keep feeding the army line though.

    Army line? :rolleyes: Whatever. I've been getting more enjoyment from O&A's program the last three months than I have with Stern's show over the last 10 years. It's just that good, they have a better relationship with guests, they aren't afraid of the backlash if they rip on lame guests, and they call out everyone (including each other) if they bomb.

    And I'm not a blind Stern basher. If he'd stop being an ENORMOUS ####-bag and fight back instead of the tired old "Howard Stern imitators" and "I started that, Robin, hoo hoo" lines, I wouldn't have lost respect for him. As I said before, he let O&A absolutely own him forever when he let them rip on his daughter without saying a word. Pathetic.

    Then again, O&A isn't Debella or Mike & Brian. This is real competition, so I can understand him not wanting to fight.

  19. Stern fans: How has the show about the show that reviews the show about the show about the show doing? Is it as good as the show about the show about the show?

    Any new something the something characters on the regular show that I've missed since he signed off free radio?

  20. Longtime Stern listener who doesn't get Sirius. ( I get free XM because we bought a car with 3 months of free XM and in that time the guy who sold us the car quit.... and I guess forgot to tell them to turn it off.) I just started listening to O&A and I think that they are good but nowhere near the level of Stern.  It kind of reminded me of an article in The Wrestler magazine circa 1985.  In it, a reporter ( I believe Bill Apter) ran a story about who the true Nature Boy was..... Ric Flair or Buddy Landell.  Apter spent a day with each of them and found that in spite of certain similarities.... Landell was nuts to think he was the true Nature Boy.  Landell took to him to a run of the mill Italian restaraunt where they had to wait in line like everyone else.  Flair took him to the finest steakhouse in Charlotte where he had is own table, waiter and was comped the meal.  Falir was also surrounded by fans whereever he went while Landell was just another face in the crowd.  This is how I see O&A and Stern.  O&A are big fish in a little pond... but until they get the level of celebrity that Stern gets.... they are Buddy Landell to Stern's Ric Flair.

    this is a very :goodposting:

    If you like stories from a magazine notorious for making up fake stories to sell issues, then this is a great analogy to the real life Stern vs. O&A war!

    Don't forget to reference the story where "Liz Hunter" cowered in fear behind Stan Hansen's couch before his wife came to her rescue and sent her on her way with Hansen's secret chili recipe!

  21. The excuses for Stern lying down and taking the daily abuse is lame. Back in the day, he NEVER would put up with this.And regardless whether he wants to give O&A "free press" or not, he's letting them say horrible things about his daughter. What father would let something like that stand?ETA: Oh, Bubba the Love Sponge is fighting his battles. Nevermind.

  22. ...perhaps he feels threatened and has no comeback for this.

    perhaps, this is your opinoin, and thats fine. Thats all we can do here anyways, is give our opinion.

    My opinion is that Stern was way more insecure before. Thus the tireades(sp) and back lash at anyone. Arent the more insecure people the one to lash back the fastest and harshest? I feel he has proven his worth by the numbers brought to Sirius already. The fact that they talk about him and his family on their show, IMO shows their insecurity about themselves and want to bring him down.

    Agreed about the opinion thing.

    But O&A don't attack Stern for the sake of doing it. In fact, they give him credit for being the trendsetter and pioneer of this type of radio. They also acknowledge that he is way more famous and the bigger name in radio.

    The only go off on tirades when he makes another ridiculous statement like "XM is going in the toilet" or "I invented (insert anything from breathing to quantum physics here)".

    As a Stern fan (which I still consider myself), I just think Howard, like O&A, is at his best when he's tearing a contemporary a new one.

  23. I'm a fan of both shows, although XM on DirecTV has still not gotten me to listen to O&A that much. I wish you could Tivo those channels.

    It's just kinda funny that people think Howard should be starting a war 3 weeks into a whole new venture. I have never heard the Stern show sound better. Fresh and clearly having fun. Why bother with O&A at this point? Maybe at some point he'll bring it up, but really...do you think he cares that much about them?

    The little dog always bites at the heel of the big dog until the big dog strikes back. O&A know it. They'll keep digging until Howard strikes back. It builds their show and that's what they, and many others have done to advance themselves. Until then, he really doesn't need to help promote them until it fills a need for him.

    Someday it will happen, but I'm glad he isn't getting involved with them yet. There's too much going on with the show, settling into the new environment. Maybe when the excitement of the new show dies down, he'll look for something to spark more interest. Until then, O&A don't matter.

    You're talking about a guy that would start a war if a local DJ mentioned that one of Howard's curls looked like it had split ends. Now you've got two renegades that Howard helped keep off the air for over two years, attacking his daughter. And not just making fun of her (lack of) acting ability, but saying some incredibly graphic stuff (sticking "one" between those two Jewish funbags, playing parodies of Howard having phone sex with his oldest daughter, etc.)

    Probably the worst, and the biggest shot to his pride, saying that Emily suffers from the "love me Daddy syndrome" that he accuses all of these strippers and attention wh0res of having because he is a "lousy dad".

    Now I don't care how much Stern has on his plate or how small of a threat he thinks O&A is, the fact that he's letting this stuff happen w/o taking any measures at all shows that perhaps he feels threatened and has no comeback for this.

  24. I lost all respect for Stern over the last three weeks because he refuses to address the fact that Opie & Anthony are tearing him a new cornhole every day. And the worst part is, they are 100% right about everything they say.

    I thought the one thing that would guarantee he'd say something is when they went after his daugther. He's even letting them get away with using soundbites of her from the Kabbalah performance (My Vah-ginah!!!)

    What a #### he's become! I guess he realizes this isn't Mark & Brian or John DeBella. O&A fight just as dirty and like I said before, they have the fanbase to combat Stern.

    :lmao:

    When are you o & a dweebs going to realize that they are insignificant in the Stern world. They dont have the fanbase to rival Stern, they will never come close, status-wise, and thats the end of the story. You people have to get over your obsession.

    :rolleyes: First of all, I'm not an "O&A dweeb". I happen to be a fan of both shows.

    I understood when Stern kept quiet on Infinity about O&A because he couldn't rip into them they way they crap on him. So I was really looking forward to him going over to Sirius and fighting the biggest war he has faced since the name "Don Imus" meant something.

    In the near month between Howard's final day and January 9, O&A went off on Stern, pointing out his MANY hypocricies, spinjobs, and flatout lies. When they went after his daughter, I thought for sure the gloves would come off and we would be privy to two fantastic radio shows.

    Instead, Stern mentioned O&A once to laughingly suggest he "felt sorry for them" for having a "handful of fans" (it was a small group in his mind but in actuality thousands of O&A "pests") trying to disrupt his show. That was it. Yet, former cronie Chauncy Hayden says something about him and he won't shut up about him for two days. Why? Because Hayden isn't a threat and Stern can take him on with little to no backlash.

    If you don't think Howard is scared, why not look at the facts?

    --Claims that O&A are more "Stern imitators". The fact is the show is fresher than anything he's ever done. Anthony is hilarious on the fly and one of the best impressionists out there. Opie is an instigator and button pusher, but they are a fantastic team. Add in Jim Norton, a filthy but hilarious comic and input by two underrated comics, Patrice O'Neal & Bill Burr, and what you get is 4 hours of solid entertainment EVERY day.

    --Howard tries to take credit for everything, including the WOW promotion which he claims he started in his DC days. Amazingly, nobody can back up that story for Howard, not even his biggest fans.

    --Howard says Sirius is leaving XM in the dust. XM has 6 million subscribers, support from investment banks, and valuable deals with automakers. They also aren't in the hole for over 1/2 billion for one talent. Sirius has 3 million and are paying out the B-hind for Stern and NFL. Sirius is definitely growing, but XM isn't exactly running scared. Plus, XM's technology is at least two years ahead of Sirius. They STILL haven't grasped the concept of a portable system yet!

    --Howard claims that both Sirius & XM wanted him and were willing to not sign O&A if he went with them. That was a flat out lie. O&A had their choice of satellite companies and went with XM.

    --Howard's biggest lie to date: He would never stop anyone from getting a job, even his enemies. He not only was instrumental in getting O&A fired the second time, the gag order he had on them neutered them from taking another job until the Infinity contract ended. This of course leans to more Stern spin action: His sudden love for Bubba the Love Sponge. O&A have tape of Stern saying "I don't want to work with imitators like "Bubba the Love Sponge". I don't even want to be in the same industry as a "Bubba the Love Sponge"."

    And I can handle all of the lies and hypocricies, if Stern would show the Stern of old and battle these two instead of letting them absolutely own him six ways to Sunday. He knows he's outmatched. He knows they have the better, funnier show. And he knows he can't go on the attack on them like he did DeBella, Imus, and Mark & Brian because O&A's fanbase is bigger than the haters would ever want to admit.

    I'm loving O&A's frequent attacks on Stern. It's great radio, made even funnier by Anthony's constant "HOO HOO, tell em Fred" remarks. I feel sorry for you Sirius Stern fans that are deprived of the same great radio in favor of hackneyed bits, and lame feuds with people nobody cares about (I read Marksfriggin's recaps; three days whining about Rachel Hunter and an anti-climactic "revelations" bit that dragged on and offered ZERO intrigue?)

    If Howard wants to prove he's truly back, he's going to have to be a man, defend his daughter, and for once in his life, admit he's not #1 but will do what he can to get there.

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