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Director stepping up to give a speech and getting lights turned down?Paulie asking why he would be confused? The sacred and the propane? (See above)About 5 others in a post above?Semantics aside, Johnny is still considered a traitor.
I thought it was a "better the good" epp. Hey, 4 ppl died last night (granted 2 were in a movie and 1 was of natural causes)As for your points above, I have to note:I think the AJ thing is set up to show how much of a nancy pants AJ is....he can't control his relationship, he is letting his girlfriend run the show, it is so not what 'the family' is about. So how could tony turn things over to him.As for the actors getting board...maybe that is intentional to show how much things have changed over the years (in the show) and how everyone is doubting thier roles in the family and the family business.Johny Sacs death was anti climactic, but it put in your mind that even as a mobster, death is gonig ot find you one way or another. He noted living healthy all his life (maybe eluding to not getting capped) and stil lhe finds himself on his death bed.just my $0.02
It's a leap, but could this all be setting up Tony appointing Bobby Bacala as a kind of absentee boss? Tony would take the role of Uncle Junior, being the face of their organization while Bobby ran the day to day. He knows the dude can scrap, he's a family man, a good earner, and someone Tony can trust. He doesn't seem to have any vices to speak of. Was killing that drummer Tony's test to see if the guy had the stones to do what needed to be done?Eh, just a thought.
That's what it seems like, but remember last season before he met the hot Puerto Rican. He was becoming real popular, and going clubbing in NY. If something happens with the gf, and she disappeared, I could easily see him getting into the life. Tony can't really trust Christopher, besides he's not around much anymore.
Yes, he was on junk with her. I'm not sure what you are confused about. I assume that that is who Shooter was referring to when he said that Chris was messed up when he came to the meeting and the girl was worse.
Being that the show ends this year, I think AJ is too young to play any role in the "other" family.
right but at the end of last season he was doing junk and her. So are they implying that between the seasons he got clean again and dumped the hot realtor. I thought they were going somewhere with that since Tony tried to get back in and then Chrissy said he was hitting it. Is she off the show for good then?
Nice spin. 2 people in a movie in the episode doesn't count. People were complaining about their being less whackings, so Chase proceeds to whack two characters in the first two episodes, neither of which we really know or care about. Sack dying of cancer is a "natural" death, not a whacking.
Maybe, but it appears more to me that they are phoning their performances in, in a manner of speaking.
Good point. But as much as I liked his character, too much attention was paid to him last night. Did we really need the whole point of that orderly telling him me might live longer and such? It just seemed like lazy writing.
Yep. Just like Finn and Meadow breaking up, storylines are wrapped up by a random reference to them ending off-screen months beforehand.
I think so. That stroyline has served its purpose to deepen the rift between T & Chrissy.
Was Tony mailing it in Melfi's office? Was Johnny Sac mailing it in the entire episode (oh wait, you don't care about him anymore)? Was Phil mailing it in while sitting at the bar stewing and vowing revenge essentially? And I'd say the acting in last week's episode among Tony, Carm, Bobby & Janice was just as good if not better than any of these examples.
Yet, you'd complain if they spent more screentime wrapping up these storylines, no?
Was it really that strong of a statement to you all? I'm serious. I thought it was an awkward, forced attempt at old times, but I had a hard time going any further than that...yet.
Not at all. I wouldn't want to see a prolonged on-screen breakup of Meadow and Finn, but considering how much attention they gave to the Tony/Christopher situation in regards to the realtor, to just end it with a passing comment seemed very lazy to me.
Or Chris wondering when he was going to drop the hammer on Tony.I would bet anything next episode revolves around Paulie. He seems really disgruntled.
Typical Sopranos. That finale from last season was completely worthless
Paulie's loyalty has always been a shaky thing. Remember his talks with Johnny Sack back in the day before he found out that Carmine had no idea who he was? And even Tony and Silvio know that he never kicks up the full amount when giving his tributes. Paulie is a selfish *******, even moreso than the others, and it is only a matter of time before that bites him in the butt. I really miss the humor in his character. Once he became bitter, his character was more of a #### than anything else.Looks to me like Paulie's loyalty is being questioned and he might get whacked.
What it reminded me of was Godfather 1. Michael stood godfather to his sister and Carlo's baby. 20 minutes later, Carlo was whacked.
Almost everything from the whole series relating to the 2 kids is pretty much a waste, except for a few scenes with A.J. that reveal more about Tony's character and Meadow dancing in her underwear.
I love that thing that he does with hands, though, when it puts his thumb against his first finger and holds his hands together in front of his chest or stomach. I've incorporated this into my routine. (yes, i'm a hit at parties.)Paulie's loyalty has always been a shaky thing. Remember his talks with Johnny Sack back in the day before he found out that Carmine had no idea who he was? And even Tony and Silvio know that he never kicks up the full amount when giving his tributes. Paulie is a selfish *******, even moreso than the others, and it is only a matter of time before that bites him in the butt. I really miss the humor in his character. Once he became bitter, his character was more of a #### than anything else.Looks to me like Paulie's loyalty is being questioned and he might get whacked.
Oh absolutely...Paulie is the "least loyal" member of the family - but he is also the one I would want to keep around as an enforcer....Paulie's loyalty has always been a shaky thing. Remember his talks with Johnny Sack back in the day before he found out that Carmine had no idea who he was? And even Tony and Silvio know that he never kicks up the full amount when giving his tributes. Paulie is a selfish *******, even moreso than the others, and it is only a matter of time before that bites him in the butt. I really miss the humor in his character. Once he became bitter, his character was more of a #### than anything else.Looks to me like Paulie's loyalty is being questioned and he might get whacked.
Hard to argue with that. I guess I am looking at the Meadow/Finn thing is another example of the way they sometimes wrap up storylines in a lazy manner. And the more Meadow-in-her-underwear shots there are, the better.
Heh, I know exactly what you mean. A friend and I love mimicking his exchange with Sal in Season 1 when he wanted to get them both a rubdown. "What are you talking about, heat is good for your back. Take your clothes off!"I love that thing that he does with hands, though, when it puts his thumb against his first finger and holds his hands together in front of his chest or stomach. I've incorporated this into my routine. (yes, i'm a hit at parties.)Paulie's loyalty has always been a shaky thing. Remember his talks with Johnny Sack back in the day before he found out that Carmine had no idea who he was? And even Tony and Silvio know that he never kicks up the full amount when giving his tributes. Paulie is a selfish *******, even moreso than the others, and it is only a matter of time before that bites him in the butt. I really miss the humor in his character. Once he became bitter, his character was more of a #### than anything else.Looks to me like Paulie's loyalty is being questioned and he might get whacked.
The way they both stared off into space made it seem like they were just thinking about what the other had planned.
Hard to argue with that. I guess I am looking at the Meadow/Finn thing is another example of the way they sometimes wrap up storylines in a lazy manner. And the more Meadow-in-her-underwear shots there are, the better.
Heh, I know exactly what you mean. A friend and I love mimicking his exchange with Sal in Season 1 when he wanted to get them both a rubdown. "What are you talking about, heat is good for your back. Take your clothes off!"I love that thing that he does with hands, though, when it puts his thumb against his first finger and holds his hands together in front of his chest or stomach. I've incorporated this into my routine. (yes, i'm a hit at parties.)Paulie's loyalty has always been a shaky thing. Remember his talks with Johnny Sack back in the day before he found out that Carmine had no idea who he was? And even Tony and Silvio know that he never kicks up the full amount when giving his tributes. Paulie is a selfish *******, even moreso than the others, and it is only a matter of time before that bites him in the butt. I really miss the humor in his character. Once he became bitter, his character was more of a #### than anything else.Looks to me like Paulie's loyalty is being questioned and he might get whacked.
"Hey T, you here what I toll him? I said I got a ####job from his mom behind the bon bon booth at the Eiffel Tower."
I fail to see how going to clubs and becoming popular even begins to qualify him to be the boss of the New Jersey mafia.Tony may not be able to trust Christopher - I agree with that, I just don't agree that that has anything to do with AJ. Tony need someone as a buffer & heir apparent does not mean he's going to pull his son into this life who, let's face it, has been a #### up at pretty much everything he's ever tried to do.In short, AJ is not that kinda guy - he never has been. And even if they made him become one, which would be pretty shocking considering how long and to what extent these characters have been defined and grown, Tony does not want him to be involved, nor does he think his son is capable of doing anything of note in this area, nevermind the BOSS. It's just not an angle I see.
Evidently Chickentown by John Cooper Clarke
For those panning this episode, I have to say, you are tough customers. The last two episodes have been the best in 2 years IMO. Perhpas it's just that the first two seasons were so good that you want the finale to be mind-numbingly awesome, but remember, a lot of great shows ended quietly. Cheers, M*A*S*H, on network TV, Deadwood, Carnivale, Rome etc on HBO had endings that were less than climactic. 
Neither. It was Doc Santoro, the little, fat, white-haired underboss. He senses the power void and is getting rid of his chief rivals. Ironic that The Hairdo gets it right when he's talking about how Phil didn't have the balls for the job.
Are you talking about Jerry? I assumed it was Doc.
GREAT episode.:( For those panning this episode, I have to say, you are tough customers. The last two episodes have been the best in 2 years IMO. Perhpas it's just that the first two seasons were so good that you want the finale to be mind-numbingly awesome, but remember, a lot of great shows ended quietly. Cheers, M*A*S*H, on network TV, Deadwood, Carnivale, Rome etc on HBO had endings that were less than climactic. Ultimately, this show is supposed to be a slice of the lives of people we've seldom had the opportunity to get a glimpse of. I don't want it to end in the apocalypse or something drastically manufactured just to "go out with a bang". I think it would be doing the entire series an injustice to end like that if it didn't flow naturally. Some things that I noticed and enjoyed about it:First off, I liked the exploration of the "Being Boss sucks sometimes...I'm a person, too" angle. Johnny Sac- "God forbid anyone should find themselves in that situation...it's a thankless job". I like how he conveniently ignored the fact that he practically waded chest deep in blood to get it, even though he acts like he silently shouldered the load for the greater good of the family.Tony- "I don't understand it. I have done everything for him, and he despises me." Like others have said, I thought that the scene with him and Melfi may have been the best one in the entire series. It was that intense. Maybe it's just the fact that we know the show is wrapping up, and that adds intensity.Phil- "I spend 20 years inside without a peep, to protect guys like Rusty Millio? Doc Santoro?" What I have liked most about Phil's character is that he constantly butts his head against the wall with the struggle of "How things are vs. How things ought to be".Sad to see Johnny Sac's character go. Vincent Curatola was a fantastic part of this show. He pulled off that entire episode with utter believability. Nice finish, Vincent.
Yes, I guess I am a tough customer, but like you said, the first few seasons were so damn great, that it can be difficult for every season to live up to those standards. I also noticed that the name of the baby was never mentioned. And I suspect this episode will be better when I watch it again. They often are. 
No, that Doc guy (cannot think of his name) did.
I think Doc had the Hairdo wacked to eliminate competition for the Boss-job of New York with Phil waffling. At least that's how I read it.
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Ahhh I see.By the way, I agree with a lot of your comments about this episode. The exchange between Melfi and Tony was fantastic. That was perhaps one of Gandolfini's greatest acting moments in the entire series.
I said that at some point in the thread also.....this decision ironically would likely get him killed tho
The baby's name was Kate Lyn
Yeah, I kind of thought someone else had said it, but I honestly did not feel like reading through the entire thread again.
A decision like that might get him killed, depending on how he does it. He could flip and take out NY. I could see that scenario. After always preaching about staying loyal after taking the oath, to see him put in a position where he has no choice but to flip would be major irony.
