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☞ Official SOPRANOS Thread (2 Viewers)

Raider Nation said:
Long Ball Larry said:
The feds play Tony a tape of his mother talking about him coming to dinner his bathrobe, but that happened in line at the movies.
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I can't for the life of me find the post where I mentioned that, but it's probably my biggest pet peeve with the show. Unforgivably sloppy.
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on a similar note the FBI Division investigating the Sapranos must be the most incompetent of all time. Just watched the end of season 5 Adrianna goes back into the wild without any escort or anybody watching her?! we can't protect you. yeah right they would let that star witness go back into a situation where she's in danger of getting killed without sending someone to watch her. Adriana just call me Monday morning let me know how it's going with Christopher.
 
Raider Nation said:
So good.
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Ya think? I'm not a fan. But good representation of the over dramatization of a show that at one point was pretty realistic.

I don't know, when I look back at Crissy's first scene, driving that degenerate down at the office park, it just doesn't seem like that's how it would end for him.

 
RBM said:
Raider Nation said:
So good.
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Ya think? I'm not a fan. But good representation of the over dramatization of a show that at one point was pretty realistic.

I don't know, when I look back at Crissy's first scene, driving that degenerate down at the office park, it just doesn't seem like that's how it would end for him.
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It's in the lyrics, man. Tony once had big dreams for Christopher. Now he realizes it's all gone. The kid he loved so much is a mess.

 
Up to 4.2 on current re-watch.

Is Ray Curto the worst informant ever? He's been wearing a wire for close to 3 years and they still have to use Danielle to get some info.

Danielle had a ####### great body.

Chris's response after he tries to get her in a threesome and Adrianna mentions how he said she had a great ###: "I was trying to say something nice about her cuz I know she's your friend."

:lmao: :lmao:

 
Raider Nation said:
Long Ball Larry said:
The feds play Tony a tape of his mother talking about him coming to dinner his bathrobe, but that happened in line at the movies.
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I can't for the life of me find the post where I mentioned that, but it's probably my biggest pet peeve with the show. Unforgivably sloppy.
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That always bugged me, too.

On the flip side, the best part of the scene is when Tony flashes that sign at Agent Grasso again, and a few seconds later, glances back at him with a great smirk on his face.

 
Was Janice in Philadelphia this past weekend?

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/10/eagles-fan-reunited-with-prosthetic-leg-after-another-eagles-fan-stole-it

Sonny Forriest Jr., was outside Lincoln Financial Field singing to passersby as he’s been known to do, when he realized his prosthetic leg was missing. Forriest told police an intoxicated woman wearing Eagles gear jumped onto his lap, breaking his microphone. After the woman apologized, Forriest says she ran away with his leg just before the Sunday night game kicked off.

 
Raider Nation said:
"So that's a crack ho!"
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Just watched this one last night.

Some comments from my fiancee watching through the past several episodes:

-"If that episode with the guys lost in the woods turns out to be nothing, it will really be stupid"

-(Before Tony goes to Zellman's and beats him) "I thought when Tony was singing that song and crying that he was going to realize how good of a woman Carmela was and tell her how much he loved her." No, he was going to be beat his business partner with a belt for sleeping with a girl he broke up with several years before and then go #### the girlfriend of one of his capos.

-"I understand why a lot of these guys have gumars since their wives are old, but why the hell would Christopher need someone on the side?"

I guess I'll remind her of that last one in 20 or 30 years if I ever get caught.

 
The idea of a prequel to “The Sopranos” intrigues series creator David Chase, but if that were to happen, he envisions it as atypical.The 69-year old showrunner says he wouldn’t mind exploring the era before the show began.

“Even if I did it, it wouldn’t be ‘The Sopranos’ that was on the air — obviously at least one person is gone that we would need,” he says. “There are a couple of eras that would be interesting for me to talk about, about Newark, N.J. One would be (the) late ‘60s, early ‘70s, about all the racial animosity, or the beginning, the really true beginning of the flood of drugs.”

For now, he is promoting the release of the entire series on Blu-ray.

Chase sat down with The Associated Press to discuss the groundbreaking HBO series, the hype that followed and the finale’s still-debated ending.

AP: How did you deal with the criticism that followed after the show’s initial success?

Chase: The first season was made, completely shot — written, shot and edited before any of the public ever saw it, so it existed in this little time capsule of its own with no reaction whatsoever. So when that hit the media, it blew up. I tried to retain that attitude that we were just out there in Queens making the show and it didn’t matter. ... After a while when it became very successful, you just start to go ‘... I’m going to do what I want.’ Why not? How often does anyone get this opportunity, so use it. Some people would tell you, ‘They went off on tangents.’ I could have cared less about it.

AP: Was Steven Van Zandt considered to play Tony Soprano?

Chase: Stevie was one of the people that read for it and that would have been a totally different show. Could have been a very good show, too, I think, but funnier and sillier. ... But for all the reasons that I’m sitting here today, a lot of that has to do with Jim (Gandolfini), and his natural abilities and inclinations.

AP: Was there emphasis to treat the violence with shock value, you know, like Ralphie Cifaretto’s head in a bowling bag?

Chase: A lot of it is like a ghastly joke. The things you’re bringing up, the bowling ball bag, that’s not shocking, it’s just ghastly and it’s stupidly funny. ... This was a mob war and it was idiotic the whole reason for it. And I know the other thing about it was that Tony was very happy when it came time to bury the head. And he was enjoying working that tractor, that bucket loader. That’s when I liked best was the absurdity of all that. He was enjoying himself up there.

AP: Did you know in advance the finale’s black ending would create such a controversy?

Chase: Obviously you can’t think about memory before it all happens. I’m really glad I had the creative freedom to do what I wanted to do. I wasn’t even questioned about it by HBO.

AP: Are series finales overhyped?

Chase: Most of my TV career, and still happening now, shows ended because somebody got a phone call saying, ‘You’re canceled,’ and that was that. You had to write an ending and that never even occurred to people. It’s over. ... On some level now, I feel this ending thing has been overblown.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/david-chase-intrigued-sopranos-prequel-idea-article-1.2000336?cid=bitly

 
Chase was on the Andy Greenwald podcast on grantland last week: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=11789585

No revelations about the Sopranos, but interesting if you interested in Chase.

He did mention that they never knew if they would be renewed until well after each season ended, at least for the first 3 or 4 years. This may be sort of HBO's m.o., but interesting to consider when thinking about the series as a whole.

 
I also wonder why Tony had the mansion from the beginning and Jackie and Rosalie had an average house if Jackie was supposed to be the boss. Though perhaps we are to infer that Jackie was more of Tony's puppet all along?

 
Long Ball Larry said:
I also wonder why Tony had the mansion from the beginning and Jackie and Rosalie had an average house if Jackie was supposed to be the boss. Though perhaps we are to infer that Jackie was more of Tony's puppet all along?
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I never got that at all. Watch the flashback episode when they were tracing the genesis of Big ##### flipping. Jackie was clearly calling the shots.

As for the house, I assume he just wanted to stay under the radar. And since Tony wasn't the boss at the time, he probably had fewer concerns about that.

 
Raider Nation said:
Long Ball Larry said:
I also wonder why Tony had the mansion from the beginning and Jackie and Rosalie had an average house if Jackie was supposed to be the boss. Though perhaps we are to infer that Jackie was more of Tony's puppet all along?
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I never got that at all. Watch the flashback episode when they were tracing the genesis of Big ##### flipping. Jackie was clearly calling the shots.

As for the house, I assume he just wanted to stay under the radar. And since Tony wasn't the boss at the time, he probably had fewer concerns about that.
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Yeah, I had never considered that Jackie was a puppet, just trying to figure out how Tony had such a great place while no one else seemed to live like that, or really ever did, other than Johnny Sac and almost Richie.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Chase was on the Andy Greenwald podcast on grantland last week: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=11789585

No revelations about the Sopranos, but interesting if you interested in Chase.

He did mention that they never knew if they would be renewed until well after each season ended, at least for the first 3 or 4 years. This may be sort of HBO's m.o., but interesting to consider when thinking about the series as a whole.
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Actually one semi-interesting thing was that Chase said he can't watch Whitecaps because there was some mistake in the story or what they had Tony and Carmela do or something. He never says what it is and Greenwald doesn't seem to want to press him. Greenwald was a little too respectful of the delicate genius.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Long Ball Larry said:
Chase was on the Andy Greenwald podcast on grantland last week: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=11789585

No revelations about the Sopranos, but interesting if you interested in Chase.

He did mention that they never knew if they would be renewed until well after each season ended, at least for the first 3 or 4 years. This may be sort of HBO's m.o., but interesting to consider when thinking about the series as a whole.
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Actually one semi-interesting thing was that Chase said he can't watch Whitecaps because there was some mistake in the story or what they had Tony and Carmela do or something. He never says what it is and Greenwald doesn't seem to want to press him. Greenwald was a little too respectful of the delicate genius.
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Was it the David Letterman cameo?

 
Great, now I'm gonna have to analyze every line of that episode. :hot:

Don't need an excuse to watch that incredible Gandolfini/Falco scene again though.

 
Raider Nation said:
Great, now I'm gonna have to analyze every line of that episode. :hot:

Don't need an excuse to watch that incredible Gandolfini/Falco scene again though.
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It's funny, that scene is so intense, and the acting is so great, I rarely watch it. I have seen every other episode about 200 times each, but as soon as the golf clubs come flying out the window, I turn it off.

 
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Sapinsly wanting to call the Coast Guard is a mistake. The Marine Police are the ones that patrol the Shrewsbury & Navisink, and he as a water front home owner would know that.

 
Regarding Jackie being the boss, he was only the acting boss, and they never said how long he had been in charge. Plus, Tony always spent his money like it was going out of style; remember Hesh talking to his girlfriend late in the series about how Tony always spends, spends, spends. Hell, Paulie earned well enough to probably own a house similar to Tony's, but he never did. It probably helped that he didn't have a wife who loved to spend, too. :lol: :lol:

 
Penguin said:
Sapinsly wanting to call the Coast Guard is a mistake. The Marine Police are the ones that patrol the Shrewsbury & Navisink, and he as a water front home owner would know that.
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Yeah, but AS makes a mean shark fin soup.

 
I always meant to ask this. Chris and Tony B. are driving.

Tony B. - "They used to call me Ichabod Crane."

Chris - "Who?"

Tony B. - "Some very sorry people; that's who."
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"They" are Uncle Pat and his late wife, but WTH does that mean in reference to Tony B.?

 
Raider Nation said:
I always meant to ask this. Chris and Tony B. are driving.

Tony B. - "They used to call me Ichabod Crane."

Chris - "Who?"

Tony B. - "Some very sorry people; that's who."
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"They" are Uncle Pat and his late wife, but WTH does that mean in reference to Tony B.?
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I never really got it either.

If memory serves, Tony B was scared of the old cartoon The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Crane was a character in that story. Crane has been depicted as kind of unique looking and strange looking, much like Buscemi is.

That is all I got.

 
Raider Nation said:
Long Ball Larry said:
I also wonder why Tony had the mansion from the beginning and Jackie and Rosalie had an average house if Jackie was supposed to be the boss. Though perhaps we are to infer that Jackie was more of Tony's puppet all along?
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I never got that at all. Watch the flashback episode when they were tracing the genesis of Big ##### flipping. Jackie was clearly calling the shots.

As for the house, I assume he just wanted to stay under the radar. And since Tony wasn't the boss at the time, he probably had fewer concerns about that.
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At one point Tony says Carmella's father built the house. Right after she sold the spec house . I would presume they didn't pay full price.
 
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