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⚽ Soccer Match-day Thread (5 Viewers)
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TLEF316
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
I was able to get the main (lead game on the app) game up- brentford vs bha... the rest had the error codes
gianmarco
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Fun for Ronaldo but those goals are both GK howlers.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Just broadcasting Gator’s erotic dreams now.
JaxBill
Footballguy
@FCDallas: You see this, Gregg?
17-year-old Justin Che sends in the cross and 18-year-old Ricardo Pepi scores again. https://twitter.com/FCDallas/status/1436870007896645638/video/1
17-year-old Justin Che sends in the cross and 18-year-old Ricardo Pepi scores again. https://twitter.com/FCDallas/status/1436870007896645638/video/1
El Floppo
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Watching the pregame crowd at Leeds. 99.9 percent white men. And half of them singing seem like they're about to murder someone. My god. Relax, people.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Leeds dicing with death playing this way. They may score, but they are so wide open.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
lol at the SJ dude who tracked back and had the angle, then just stopped running with him at midfield.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'm nothing if not stubborn:
Liverpool's goal should have been waved off for offside. Mane's in an offside position and draws the defender on the line out of the direct line of the shot with his movement. How that can be deemed "not involved in the play" is still beyond me. You can see Raphinha move in direct response to Mane.
Liverpool's goal should have been waved off for offside. Mane's in an offside position and draws the defender on the line out of the direct line of the shot with his movement. How that can be deemed "not involved in the play" is still beyond me. You can see Raphinha move in direct response to Mane.
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Given how many times they ran that - I assumed it was going to be overruled. Defender would have been in position to stop the shot if not for being pulled away by the off-side player.
Its really tough to expect the players to know Mane is off-side and to let him go in that situation.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
And there we go. Harvey Elliott's season ended.
Of course it's the cleanest team in the league that ends up paying the price for the EPL deciding that people want the ####### 1989 Pistons or Burnley to be the style of the league. Such bull####.
Of course it's the cleanest team in the league that ends up paying the price for the EPL deciding that people want the ####### 1989 Pistons or Burnley to be the style of the league. Such bull####.
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Really disappointed the Ref missed the horrible tackle in real-time - he was standing right in front of it.
Disappointed for Elliott - Gator and I had picked him up early this season in the fantasy, and he was one of the few Liverpool players I liked rooting for.
The Gator
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Atlético continues to get super lucky. After going behind 1-0 at Espanyol they equalized in the 70th or so, then got a game winner in the 100th... that's some real #fergietime. This after getting a lucky point from a ridiculous, uncontested own goal just before the full time whistle in the last game.
El Floppo
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The Z Machine
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B Maverick
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Lingard scored
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Damn...
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gianmarco
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
How is a dislocation different from a break? I'm a little confused on what exactly happened. Judging from the way his foot was pointing the wrong direction it seems clear some stuff snapped, but what's likely in terms of recovery?
El Floppo
Footballguy
I don't recall seeing or hearing about an ankle dislocation.
I dislocated my big toe in a game once- it was basically upside down and hurt just a tad. I can't even fathom what an ankle mustve looked like (obviously freakish based on Dinsys post) or felt like. Mine definitely felt better when the trainer popped it back into place...hoping that's the case for the kid- and hope there's no other structural/ligament damage (hard to imagine there wouldn't be)
I dislocated my big toe in a game once- it was basically upside down and hurt just a tad. I can't even fathom what an ankle mustve looked like (obviously freakish based on Dinsys post) or felt like. Mine definitely felt better when the trainer popped it back into place...hoping that's the case for the kid- and hope there's no other structural/ligament damage (hard to imagine there wouldn't be)
gianmarco
Footballguy
Not all dislocations are the same. So, with a shoulder dislocation, for example, it's very common that the head of humerus (upper arm bone) essentially pops out of place so the shoulder joint isn't the way it's supposed to be. You can put it back where it needs to be and then you are good (kind of, which I'll get to in a moment). A fracture is a break of the bone. Lots of shoulder dislocations happen without having a fracture because of the way the joint is (ball and socket, larger joint, larger range of motion). Still, it can happen at times.
Knee dislocations kind of the same. Knee cap moves off to the side but you don't usually get a fracture even though you can.
The ankle, however, is a much smaller/tighter joint with much less range of motion. It's very hard to dislocate an ankle. So, usually the force involved also ends up breaking at least one bone, typically either of the bones of the lower leg (tibia and fibula).
All a joint is is bones that come together and are held in place by the muscles and more importantly by ligaments. Those ligaments can get stretched and torn. That's what a sprain is. In a dislocation, those ligaments get stretched a good bit to allow the bone to get out of place to begin with. So, even though you can get a shoulder back in after it's dislocated, those ligaments have been stretched making it much more likely to happen again. Thus, you have to limit activity to allow it to get "back to normal". Same with knees. With the ankle, there's even less give so some of those get torn. Ankle dislocations are bad and most will have associated fractures and ligament damage as a result. But, getting it back in place quickly helps limit swelling and further injury that delays repair and healing.
Also, ligaments have limited blood flow which is why they take so long to heal. That's why that ankle sprain can take weeks to get better.
I haven't read about the specifics of his injury, but if he escaped without a fracture, that's pretty darn lucky.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Picture of an ankle with ligaments
All of those ligaments help hold it together. Any of them can get stretched. Turn your ankle inward and you stretch the outside part. Or vice versa. Technically where each of those bones come together is a separate joint. Because you have a few bones in the foot that all come together in that spot, you have 3 joints in the ankle.
Suffice to say, it's a very complicated joint that I don't know much about other than I can tell when something isn't right and that you need to see an orthopedic doctor to get it fixed.
The good thing is with all those ligaments, it's not as common as other injuries. The bad thing is, when you get the force needed to disrupt any of those joints, it's not pretty and can take a long time to heal.
All of those ligaments help hold it together. Any of them can get stretched. Turn your ankle inward and you stretch the outside part. Or vice versa. Technically where each of those bones come together is a separate joint. Because you have a few bones in the foot that all come together in that spot, you have 3 joints in the ankle.
Suffice to say, it's a very complicated joint that I don't know much about other than I can tell when something isn't right and that you need to see an orthopedic doctor to get it fixed.
The good thing is with all those ligaments, it's not as common as other injuries. The bad thing is, when you get the force needed to disrupt any of those joints, it's not pretty and can take a long time to heal.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Reading some more, it sounds like ~6 months or so -- unless there are complications.
Such a bummer. A kid getting hurt that bad on a stupid challenge -- but also because the Salah-Harvey-TAA trio on that side has been unplayable thru four games.
Such a bummer. A kid getting hurt that bad on a stupid challenge -- but also because the Salah-Harvey-TAA trio on that side has been unplayable thru four games.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Salah was the hero here imo - he was immediately screaming at the Ref, and waving on the medical team. The ref had already turned, and and given Elliot the "get up" motion indicating no foul.
Side note to the Elliott incident, but I think the EPL refs have swung too far towards "letting them play" and that was presumably in the back of the mind of Pawson here. He never considered that the tackle from behind was the least bit dangerous.
I'm happy to see the minor contact get waved off, and even the borderline shoulder-to-shoulder barges, but there have been a number of pretty heavy "fouls" though the back, or just hard tackles that border on dangerous play. If the officials continue with the loose interpretation of the rules - more players will suffer lengthy injuries through that style of play.
I'm happy to see the minor contact get waved off, and even the borderline shoulder-to-shoulder barges, but there have been a number of pretty heavy "fouls" though the back, or just hard tackles that border on dangerous play. If the officials continue with the loose interpretation of the rules - more players will suffer lengthy injuries through that style of play.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
It's ridiculous. And I said as much after the Burnley game. (so did Klopp, later) Flying elbows, tackles from behind. Ridiculous stuff is being let go. Like you said, the ref was waving away the foul claim and his leg was dangling by the skin. No one pays to watch Rick Mahorn play soccer.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'm from the old school where if you even touched the ball, back front or otherwise, play on. But as a guy who repeatedly got wrecked by tackles from behind, I like seeing that made illegal.
I'm happy to see the refs play on more and am generally happy with the way this year has gone in terms of that reffing change. But tackles from the back should always get called, just too much risk of injury.
gianmarco
Footballguy
This.
I think they've swung a little too far. I hate that this end of the pendulum results in injuries, but I think they've mostly gotten it right and just need to clamp down on the dangerous/from behind tackles.
The Gator
Footballguy
I had five foul names for Pawson out of my mouth before Elliot hit the ground. What a useless cnut Pawson is.... Air born tackle from behind, nah, no whistle.
Kafka
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El Floppo
Footballguy
ok. just watched the tackle in question for the first time. this isn't going to a popular opinion...
they're essentially side by side and the Leeds dude with the daddy long legs jumps in and wins the ball cleanly with his right foot. his trailing left foot leg does the damage afterwards, and comes in awkwardly and bizarre coincidentally catching Elliot from behind/side. I get why the ref would call play-on...from that vantage point it looks clean, and difficult to see the trailing leg as the ball and play move forward.
sorry.
they're essentially side by side and the Leeds dude with the daddy long legs jumps in and wins the ball cleanly with his right foot. his trailing left foot leg does the damage afterwards, and comes in awkwardly and bizarre coincidentally catching Elliot from behind/side. I get why the ref would call play-on...from that vantage point it looks clean, and difficult to see the trailing leg as the ball and play move forward.
sorry.
1. Why do you so clearly hate Harvey Elliott?
2. Why did you think Elliott was lying in a heap on the ground, screaming in pain - from a clean tackle? (Sure he trains with Salah, but he is too young to be pulling off Salah-level dives)
3. How does it go from no foul to Red Card when the ref was staring at the tackle when it happened?
The Gator
Footballguy
That was not a clean tackle
You did get the "Jumps in" part correct, which is again, a bad tackle. Even from behind, if the Leeds dude was on the ground sliding in and not in the air, zero ankles get dislocated.
El Floppo
Footballguy
other angle I watched ealier didn't show his trailing knee coming down in the 2nd link. ugh... that's more clearly from behind. I see your point better here.
1st link is side by side all good to me. the videos I watched were from the other angle and mirrored this view- which is side by side and clean....
but only if the trailing leg avoids bad contact... which obviously wasn't the case here. this was made much worse because he wasn't expecting that challenge and didn't think/anticipate to ride it, or at least unweight the foot that took the brunt.
El Floppo
Footballguy
1. he's the worst.
2. so it's always a foul if the guy gets hurt? huh.
3. ref wasn't paying attention to the trailing leg- only the tackling leg. the Leeds dude was side by side with the tackling leg, and I see no problem there if the trailing leg doesn't make contact the way it did. did the red happen after VAR? or in conference with the AR?
The Gator
Footballguy
Yeah, to the bolded; that's what I meant by the defender being air-born. If he's on the ground and slides into the back of Elliots foot nothing major happens. Leaving your feet like that and flying in is very reckless and should be a red imo
