0-3 in a Dynasty League (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

When is the best time to officially "throw in the towel" for the current year and look to turnover older vets for youth and prospects? This doesn't mean quitting by any means but it means trying to add value and looking more toward being competitive next year.

Is 0-3 too much to overcome to make the playoffs? Is it still too early to decide and give it one more week? Do you gain more value by doing so now or waiting for teams to have holes due to injuries/byes?

Just curious what some people's thoughts are on this.

 

[two_dollars]

depends, how is your team scoring? are you a victim of scheduling and playing the top scorer every week? or are your vets busting and you only have 1 maybe 2 studs?

 

[Casting Couch]

roster ?

 

[TommyGilmore]

What's your roster and points scored? How many teams make the playoffs? How many games back are you?

 

[gianmarco]

This is not about a specific team. This is about a general strategy. I know some of this will vary depending on how many teams in a league, how many make the playoffs, how your team is scoring, etc. But, an 0-3 start simply is NOT good and a lot has to go right to make the playoffs.

 

[Go Pack]

I would not give up on the season at 0-3 unless my team was bad to start with and I knew that I should be looking to the future before the season even started or so decimated by injuries that there is no chance to recover. If the roster is solid then it is way too early. On the other hand, you should always have an eye to the future in dynasty so if you can get a promising young player/pick for a veteran that you can spare of course you make that move regardless of record.

 

[dirty_martini]

One other factor to consider is whehter your older players are hot or not. No one is going to pay much for TO right now but Tony Gonzalez might get something of value ...

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Basically, I will not throw in the towel at 0-3 in a dynasty league if I think my team is good enough to win. So it really depends on what you think of your team.

 

[PranksterJD]

This is not about a specific team. This is about a general strategy. I know some of this will vary depending on how many teams in a league, how many make the playoffs, how your team is scoring, etc. But, an 0-3 start simply is NOT good and a lot has to go right to make the playoffs.

Too hard to make the call without other variables. I had a team start 0-5 last year, but was in the top 4 ( of 12 ) scoring each week so I kept at it and ended up 7-6 and in the championship game. I have a team that's 2-1 right now, but scored in the bottom half each week and I'm thinking about blowing it up since I'm a pretender.My general thought is that 0-3 is too early to make a definitive call if you feel like you're an on-the-fence team, but its not too early if the circumstances dictate it.I will say, though, that if I'm 0-3 I'm looking at options for guys that I'm not sure positive be easy trades later in the year if necessary. I'm probably taking what I can get for Torry or T.O., but I'll hold Derrick Mason since his value likely won't tank anytime soon.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Thats a good question. One of my dynasty teams falls in this category.

Going in i was pimped to be one of the contenders. Sadly im 0-3

Im 5th in total points and 4th in the power rankings. Should have won 2 games but picked the wrong guys.

This a NON ppr 12 teamer where we start 1qb 2rb 3wr 1flex 1te 1k 1def

The team:

Leinart, Matt ARI QB 1

Schaub, Matt HOU QB 63

Warner, Kurt ARI QB 50

Bush, Michael OAK RB 22

Goodson, Mike CAR RB ® -2

Johnson, Larry KCC RB 17

Rice, Ray BAL RB 35

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 36

Williams, Ricky MIA RB 34

Avant, Jason PHI WR 17

Floyd, Malcom SDC WR 14

Henry, Chris CIN WR 11

Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 43

Jackson, Vincent SDC WR 44

Manningham, Mario NYG WR 44

Moss, Randy NEP WR 38

Smith, Steve CAR WR 19

Washington, Kelley BAL WR 23

Bennett, Martellus DAL TE 2

Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE 28

Miller, Heath PIT TE 11

Carney, John NOS PK 30

49ers, San Francisco SFO Def 22

Broncos, Denver DEN Def 34

Ive held off making a major move for a STUD rb as my rb's are my weak area. But with Dwill and those wr's i will prob go with the 2rb & 4wr setup for the most part.

Eh. what do you do.........?? Not much i can do at this point but just set my lineups better and hope i do well in the next 10 games before the playoffs start.

 

[SSOG]

When is the best time to officially "throw in the towel" for the current year and look to turnover older vets for youth and prospects? This doesn't mean quitting by any means but it means trying to add value and looking more toward being competitive next year.Is 0-3 too much to overcome to make the playoffs? Is it still too early to decide and give it one more week? Do you gain more value by doing so now or waiting for teams to have holes due to injuries/byes? Just curious what some people's thoughts are on this.

Depends on a lot of things. I've seen teams that decided at 0-0 it was time to throw in the towel and start building for the future... and looking at their rosters, it was absolutely the correct decision. I've seen a team start rebuilding while he had a winning record because he believed that his fast start was a mirage and his players were playing over their heads, and he wanted to sell them while their value was high. I've had teams that started 0-3 that I objectively knew were among the top teams in the league, so I rode them as far as they'd take me. Usually I was right. Sometimes I was wrong.Probably the biggest determining factor is going to be your league's playoff setup. What percentage of the teams make the playoffs? If it's a 12-team league with an 8-team playoff or a 10-team league with a 6-team playoff, then 0-3 is no big obstacle to overcome. If it's a 12-team league with a 4-team playoff, then feel free to consider the season a lost cause, because you're unlikely to make it back. If it's a 12-team league with a 6-team playoff, then it's dicey and you could go either way- if you feel like you have an exceptionally strong team, then roll the dice and go for the win. If you don't, then start rebuilding.Also, just because you decide to rebuild doesn't mean you have to do all the rebuilding RIGHT NOW. Granted, "players of the future" (guys like Leinart, Freeman, Mendenhall, and future draft picks) probably have the lowest value all season right about now... but the "players of the present" on your roster (Donald Driver, Clinton Portis, Tomlinson when he returns) won't see their value peak for another couple of weeks until teams that feel like they're contenders are gearing up for the stretch run. Feel free to put out feelers, but don't feel obligated to start making moves if you feel like you can get a better deal by holding out a week or two.

 

[Crippler]

I think 0-3 is too soon but you got to look at your team.

If your QB is Hass and Delhomme and nothing else and the rest of your team has some talent but missing pieces than I think about it

But you have a good team and the playoffs in 12 team 6 make it is probably 2-1 or even 1-2 at this point, That is only 2 games to make up. Do you get to play a team in front of you that has got lucky to this point and make up ground. Maybe 0-5 would have me thinking unless my team was crap but I probably did a rebuild way before this.

I know our 16 team league and the playoffs right now is 4-2. Talked to a 1-5 team that has crap QB's, mediocre RB, Jackson, Driver and squat at WR afterwards with a bunch of youth and good TE's and crappy IDP. He is still going for it and I cant blame him with 2 wins in a week, he could only be a game out.

 

[dagwood]

This is not about a specific team. This is about a general strategy. I know some of this will vary depending on how many teams in a league, how many make the playoffs, how your team is scoring, etc. But, an 0-3 start simply is NOT good and a lot has to go right to make the playoffs.

You can't set a specific record....some teams you give up before the season starts....other teams start 0-5 but are capable of ripping off 9 straight wins....depends on what your roster looks like...injury situations....points scored....how good the other teams in your division are....

 

[stevegamer]

I started a rebuild thread last year over in the IDP forum, to be an example of my thoughts, and how it worked out - because I was sure I was toast, and to chronicle mistakes and how to learn from them. (I have to update on the off-season, got to get to that)

About 2 weeks into the rebuild process, I started winning, and then ended up making the playoffs & winning the league.

I'd say 0-3 is a touch early, if you thik you are good. You can sell off older parts that you can replace in-house, though.

 

[LBH]

it really depends on specific rosters and how a person projects those players to score for the remainder of the season

 

[fsufan]

Last year in my main dynasty league I started 0-2. I decided to shake things up and I made some trades. Well I ended up winning it all. I think it depends on your roster.

 

[stuckinthemuck]

Thats a good question. One of my dynasty teams falls in this category.Going in i was pimped to be one of the contenders. Sadly im 0-3Im 5th in total points and 4th in the power rankings. Should have won 2 games but picked the wrong guys.This a NON ppr 12 teamer where we start 1qb 2rb 3wr 1flex 1te 1k 1defThe team: Leinart, Matt ARI QB 1 Schaub, Matt HOU QB 63 Warner, Kurt ARI QB 50 Bush, Michael OAK RB 22 Goodson, Mike CAR RB ® -2 Johnson, Larry KCC RB 17 Rice, Ray BAL RB 35 Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 36 Williams, Ricky MIA RB 34 Avant, Jason PHI WR 17 Floyd, Malcom SDC WR 14 Henry, Chris CIN WR 11 Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 43 Jackson, Vincent SDC WR 44 Manningham, Mario NYG WR 44 Moss, Randy NEP WR 38 Smith, Steve CAR WR 19 Washington, Kelley BAL WR 23 Bennett, Martellus DAL TE 2 Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE 28 Miller, Heath PIT TE 11 Carney, John NOS PK 30 49ers, San Francisco SFO Def 22 Broncos, Denver DEN Def 34 Ive held off making a major move for a STUD rb as my rb's are my weak area. But with Dwill and those wr's i will prob go with the 2rb & 4wr setup for the most part. Eh. what do you do.........?? Not much i can do at this point but just set my lineups better and hope i do well in the next 10 games before the playoffs start.

Standing pat looks like your best move. Nice squad with a good shot at 7-3 the rest of the way. Maybe move Manningham or Washington for a RB3 if you think they will tail off...otherwise I'd expect you to still be competitive.

 

[Spike]

I'm 0-3 in one dynasty league where I'm actually the highest point scorer in the league.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I guess I'm not seeing why the two would be mutually exclusive. I'm forever rebuilding and I've won my dynasty league 6 of the last 8 years.

 

[Bears_Man2]

PPR: I usually 'throw in the towel' for Year 1 at the draft itself. Young WR heavy, Young QB & TE. I try to get one solid back & then the younger backup RB types. If I strike with one of the young backups, I've got a young contending team with solid future.

Usually dismal Year 1 & get a very high rookie RB pick or deal it for a young commodity.

 

[menobrown]

Unless your team is ripped apart with injuries it's way to early to give up. If however you are 0-3 and sitting on guys like Gore, Gonzo, Felix, etc, etc, it might be time to blow it up.

 

[PewterFan]

Your win-loss record isn't the important stat. It's how behind you are in the playoffs race. At 0-3 you could easily be one game behind.

 

[coolnerd]

If your goal is to dominate the league and you are 0-3 then yes you need to give up the ghost, but if you just want to get in the playoffs and maybe get lucky then there are a couple of weeks left before a dynasty league owner needs to be thinking about next year. BTW, be careful of an owner who is sending you decent, but not great trades over the next couple of weeks. Many of the guys who are spinning that they thinking about next year are trying to get younger players at below market costs, knowing that they could help them get into the playoffs this year while lowering your chances.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

If your goal is to dominate the league and you are 0-3 then yes you need to give up the ghost, but if you just want to get in the playoffs and maybe get lucky then there are a couple of weeks left before a dynasty league owner needs to be thinking about next year. BTW, be careful of an owner who is sending you decent, but not great trades over the next couple of weeks. Many of the guys who are spinning that they thinking about next year are trying to get younger players at below market costs, knowing that they could help them get into the playoffs this year while lowering your chances.

Preach Brotha!!