1.02 dynasty pick for 2 QB league (1 Viewer)

[TheKillerBrees]

So... background...

Dynasty league, Large bench, 8 teams. 2 QB league (With a roster max of 5 Qb's). I am a contending team right now (Although parity in our league is great, huge standing shifts occur basically every season)

I have a good "Bottom end" (TE, Kicker, Team D) and am STACKED at WR

MY RB's need a small boost and my QB is a situation (I only have 4 out of the max 5 - Brady, Brees, Winston, Haskins)

I own picks 1.01 and 1.02 in the rookie draft  and I'm Taking CEH 1st (So there's my RB boost)

So the Question is:

With 1.02 do I take Burrow, or do I grab Taylor and try to address QB later (my next pick is 18, so I don't expect any of the 3 QB's to be left at that pick and I don't care about any of the others) I figure I need to take Burrow, but Passing on Taylor makes me sad! lol

???

 

[jmble]

I may be a bit biased being a Bengal fan, 

But in a 2 QB Dynasty League where two of your four QBs may be retired by the end of the year and your other two QBs are Winston and Haskins, I'd find it really hard to pass on Burrow especially since you are taking CEH.  He will no doubt give your RBs the small boost you are looking for.

 

[Gally]

I am not so sure that taking CEH is the right thing to do at pick 1.01 in a 2QB league.  I would be highly considering taking Burrow and Tua with those two picks at the top of the draft.  For me Burrow is the unquestioned 1.01 in a 2QB format as you have described.   Typically in 2QB leagues you cannot get QB's without either paying a ransom or having the ability to draft rookies and having them pan out.  This class is pretty well off for QB's and I would probably take both Burrow and Tua.  It is easier finding RB's that can help your roster than QB's that can help.

I would take Burrow and Tua based on your QB situation and worry about RB later. 

 

[TheKillerBrees]

SO you would pass on CEH AND cut Haskins to take Tua??

(Also - just for reference even though my league is 2 QB, they generally do not get taken in the 1st round of our drafts - my league mates are hesitant to take QB's it seems - for example I took Haskin in the late 2nd last year, even Mahommes went in the 2nd round a few years ago... etc))

Basically go CEH and Burrow like I planned all along then (I just can't get behind cutting Haskins in order to take Tua while passing on CEH... I mean if Tua slipped into the 2nd round I would take him and make the cut but the opportunity cost doesn't make sense to me)

 

[Gally]

Haskins and Mahomes weren't starters at the time of most drafts so I can see why they lasted longer.  Alex Smith was coming off a solid year with KC and nobody knew Mahomes would turn into what he has.  Haskins is just not very good and that was the case going in.

You are long in the tooth at QB and need an infusion.  Burrow is starting from Day 1 and Tua has a clean bill of health and will have a chance to start.  I have no issue going CEH (he is my #1 choice in most cases).  You know your league better.  If Tua will last then it makes sense to wait.  In my league (SF) Burrow will go #1 (QB needy team) and Tua will probably go 4th or 5th.  

In my 2QB league experience qb's are never available.  Its easier to get RB's later.  If that is not your league then you do you.

 

[acarey50]

What are your other lineup requirements?

Being an 8 team league, the affect of 2QB is not necessarily as severe as say the same thing in a 12 team league, but if you have other lineup adjustments, say 3 required RBs instead of 2, 4 WRs, or a higher number of flexes etc. so that the required positional players stays similar in ratio to QBs, it may lessen the "need" to go after a QB.

You also so leaguemates are hesitant to draft QBs - how are they as far as trading QBs? Are they attainable?

Yes, you absolutely will need to address your QB spot, I just don't think it is clear that you need to draft one - I think the answers to the above (lineup reqs, trade possibility) and I guess also just who you currently have at RB will determine who the best player available is for your league.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

I would go Burrow and CEH and then worry about another qb next year

See mine please https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/787144-dynasty-which-is-better-deal-for-dwatson/

 

[TheKillerBrees]

There's a high possibility that Herbert makes it to me in the 2nd as well. Is Tua THAT good, that I pass on CEH to make sure I get him and Burrow both? (Tue won't last to the 2nd, if I don't grab him at 1.02 there is another QB needy team at pick 5 who will grab him, but I guess that's the point, is Tua THAT much better than both Haskins or Hebert that I pass on shoring up my RB issues with CEH to get him over any other choice - I have alot of picks next year too, but the draft will be weird with no college season forthcoming)

I know I need QB, but at the same time I'm trying to win right now as well.

(I was also offered Daniel Jones for 1.02 (But I think he expected I would take CEH and leave him Burrow if I got a QB in trade - and I might. so that offer becomes Jones for Burrow)?? So yes QB's can be traded... they're expensive usually (I traded Jimmy G 2 years ago for Mixon and a 1st!) so it's hard to say. 

I'm struggling with this one still (Draft is on Saturday)

As for questions above. We play 2 QB's, 2 RB's, 3Wr's, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker and 1 Team DF - we have a huge bench and QB is the only one with a roster limit (5) - scoring is very standard... I am stacked stacked stacked at WR (Starters are Hopkins, Golliday and Godwin, but I am unfortunately having a hard time moving Diggs, Sutton or Woods for anything of value :(  so for now I just remain stacked at the position). RB's were my weakness last year But Mixon, Connor and David Johnson should be OK this year (After them I only have Howard, Coleman and White though, so an injury could derail me - hence I really want CEH)

 

[Gally]

As for questions above. We play 2 QB's, 2 RB's, 3Wr's, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker and 1 Team DF - we have a huge bench and QB is the only one with a roster limit (5) - scoring is very standard... I am stacked stacked stacked at WR (Starters are Hopkins, Golliday and Godwin, but I am unfortunately having a hard time moving Diggs, Sutton or Woods for anything of value :(  so for now I just remain stacked at the position). RB's were my weakness last year But Mixon, Connor and David Johnson should be OK this year (After them I only have Howard, Coleman and White though, so an injury could derail me - hence I really want CEH)

I understand the dilemma but it does sound like you have to way overpay for a QB if you don't draft one (Mixon & a first for JimmyG?...….ugh).  That trade right there makes me say that going QB-QB is the way to go.  Now the question is exactly as you stated, is Tua going to be good?   If you could trade a Jimmy G for Mixon and a 1st I don't see any issue with trading Brees/Brady to a contender if Burrow/Tua pan out and getting that RB depth you need (you are fine at starters with Mixon & Conner/DJ). 

And yes, Tua is much better of a prospect than Haskins so that shouldn't even be a concern.  Whether Tua is good enough to pass on CEH is a valid question and really the crux of the situation.  For me, it seems like QB's are at a premium and you will always be able to find a startable RB for relatively cheap.  If you take Burrow and Tua and they pan out it will give you a lot of flexibility to move Brady/Brees for something of value to help your RB situation.  If they don't pan out, well, CEH may not pan out either. 

I stick with my initial recommendation because it's a 2QB league.  I go with the two QB's.  I would however give serious thought to the 1.02 for Jones (I have Jones in my SF and I like him a lot).  That will boil down to who you think is better between Tua and Jones (at least for me since I would be taking 2 QB's).

 

[fightingillini]

You have Mixon, Conner and DJ, you are OK at RB this year.  While CEH would be a nice upgrade, QBs are golden in a mandatory start 2QB league.

So I would take the 1.02 for Daniel Jones deal and take Burrow at 1.1.  If you think Tua is a better prospect than Jones, just take Burrow and Tua.  I think Tua has more upside than Jones, but he does carry a lot more risk.

I think that you will contend this year without CEH.  If you choose, you can trade Brady or Brees for a good return.  And given that you traded Jimmy G for Mixon and a 1st.......someone will give you a nice package for Brady or Brees if they need a QB to keep contending.

 

[TheKillerBrees]

Ok, Gally... let's say you have me convinced (I'm alot more convinced now than I have been yet!!)

Tua, or trade the pick for Jones?

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Ok, Gally... let's say you have me convinced (I'm alot more convinced now than I have been yet!!)

Tua, or trade the pick for Jones?

Thanks for answering mine..  I would get Jones for the 1.02 after grabbing Burrow at 1.01 solidifying your qb spot and possibly allowing you to deal Brady and Brees

 

[Gally]

Ok, Gally... let's say you have me convinced (I'm alot more convinced now than I have been yet!!)

Tua, or trade the pick for Jones?

I knew I could sway you...hahahahah.

I have Jones and I was lucky (at least in my eyes) to get him at 1.06 as he was my top rookie pick for my SF league (I was QB poor).  I think he is the real deal so I may be a bit biased.  That being said, Tua has the pedigree and is athletically superior.  I think his upside is through the roof.  But I also think his downside is rock bottom (injuries being the biggest detractor in my eyes).

To me it boils down to if you are a risk taker or not.  Jones is safer and Tua is bigger risk/reward.  It really comes down to your personal preference for which fits your team/mindset best.  For me, I take Jones and be extremely happy about it.  I think he will be  solid mainstay in the QB10 range for the next 10 years.  Nothing flashy but a great QB2 for a two QB league.  Paired with Burrow I think you get a very solid above average QB stable for years and don't have to worry about the position. 

 

[fightingillini]

Ok, Gally... let's say you have me convinced (I'm alot more convinced now than I have been yet!!)

Tua, or trade the pick for Jones?

As I said, I would trade for Jones, but I wouldn't fault you for staying put and taking Tua.  As Gally said, Tua has more upside but a lot more risk.

Trading for Jones gives you 2 solid young QBs that for the next 3-5 years, you don't have to worry about your two starting QB slots.