1.04 - rookie pick (1 Viewer)

[Ron_Mexico]

I just acquired the 1.04 pick in

one of my dynasty leagues.

In a RB heavy league, I am looking

at either Antonio Pittman or Kenny Irons here.

I really think Michael Bush's style won't translate well

to the NFL game.

Of course all of this conjuecture depends strongly

upon with which team these players land.

 

[Rounders]

What did you give up? I have the 5th pick in one league and the 6th pick in another, and I'm curious to know what it took to get the pick.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

LaMont Jordan

Reggie Brown

for

1.04

Vincent Jackson

Tony Scheffler

VJax will be my #4 WR.

I love Scheffler, he put it over the top for me.

 

[B. Nugget]

LaMont JordanReggie Brownfor1.04Vincent JacksonTony SchefflerVJax will be my #4 WR.I love Scheffler, he put it over the top for me.

Nice trade for you!

 

[Ron_Mexico]

LaMont JordanReggie Brownfor1.04Vincent JacksonTony SchefflerVJax will be my #4 WR.I love Scheffler, he put it over the top for me.

Nice trade for you!

Thanks, we both knew there was a drop off from at 1.04,and I am very down on Jordan, to me he looked slow before the injury.I knew I would be selling low on him, but I think I got decent value.I hope Kenny Irons or Antonio Pittman end up in a nice situation,either one may end up being 1.04 for me, unless someone else really shines at the combines.

 

[Tenacious D]

Don't forget Tony Hunt.

 

[Gottabesweet]

I have 1.7 and 1.8 what should I do?

 

[BroadwayG]

I have 1.7 and 1.8 what should I do?

Lay them straight.

 

[beto]

I have 1.7 and 1.8 what should I do?

Lay them straight.

Lots of WR projects to pick from with picks 4-8

 

[Gottabesweet]

where does Russell land?

I have Leinart, Favre and Carr as my qb's thinking maybe take a qb here...

my backs include LT, McGahee and Caddy and my wr's I have Evans, Andre Johnson and a bunch of fill in's.

I can go alot of options. What do you think I can aquire for 1.7 or 1.8 or combined. What sorts of players.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

where does Russell land?I have Leinart, Favre and Carr as my qb's thinking maybe take a qb here...my backs include LT, McGahee and Caddy and my wr's I have Evans, Andre Johnson and a bunch of fill in's. I can go alot of options. What do you think I can aquire for 1.7 or 1.8 or combined. What sorts of players.

You may be surprised at who may be there at 1.07 and 1.08PetersonLynchJohnsonIronsPittmanRussellQuinnJarrettGinnHuntYou could get a sweet WR and a top QBat 7 and 8.

 

[Simris]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.

How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?

Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.

Sorry for the trip.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.Sorry for the trip.

Where are you trying to move up to.You should land Calvin at 1.03.I see the drop off right after that pick.But 1.04 should be a very interesting pick.Thinking Irons or Pittman right now,but things will definately be clearer after theNFL draft.

 

[Simris]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.Sorry for the trip.

Where are you trying to move up to.You should land Calvin at 1.03.I see the drop off right after that pick.But 1.04 should be a very interesting pick.Thinking Irons or Pittman right now,but things will definately be clearer after theNFL draft.

If I moved it would be to the 1st or 2nd. The odds of Peterson or Lynch falling is very small. (16 teams and rb's are scarce. I have some FA power but most of the good rb's will be resigned)Just exploring how steep the dropoff is.As it stands right now it doesn't appear that passing on Calvin at 1.03 and taking the next top-rated RB is would be a good idea. So its either trade up or take Calvin. I suppose I could offer 1.06 and 1.03 to move up to 1.01 or 1.02, but that 'seems' kind of steep. That is why I am asking about how steep the dropoff is. What's 1.07 going to be worth? Maybe it would be worth it???

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.Sorry for the trip.

Where are you trying to move up to.You should land Calvin at 1.03.I see the drop off right after that pick.But 1.04 should be a very interesting pick.Thinking Irons or Pittman right now,but things will definately be clearer after theNFL draft.

If I moved it would be to the 1st or 2nd. The odds of Peterson or Lynch falling is very small. (16 teams and rb's are scarce. I have some FA power but most of the good rb's will be resigned)Just exploring how steep the dropoff is.As it stands right now it doesn't appear that passing on Calvin at 1.03 and taking the next top-rated RB is would be a good idea. So its either trade up or take Calvin. I suppose I could offer 1.06 and 1.03 to move up to 1.01 or 1.02, but that 'seems' kind of steep. That is why I am asking about how steep the dropoff is. What's 1.07 going to be worth? Maybe it would be worth it???

That's a tough call, can you move a first round pickand another player who may be expendable to moveup to 1.01 or 1.02 ?

 

[Simris]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.Sorry for the trip.

Where are you trying to move up to.You should land Calvin at 1.03.I see the drop off right after that pick.But 1.04 should be a very interesting pick.Thinking Irons or Pittman right now,but things will definately be clearer after theNFL draft.

If I moved it would be to the 1st or 2nd. The odds of Peterson or Lynch falling is very small. (16 teams and rb's are scarce. I have some FA power but most of the good rb's will be resigned)Just exploring how steep the dropoff is.As it stands right now it doesn't appear that passing on Calvin at 1.03 and taking the next top-rated RB is would be a good idea. So its either trade up or take Calvin. I suppose I could offer 1.06 and 1.03 to move up to 1.01 or 1.02, but that 'seems' kind of steep. That is why I am asking about how steep the dropoff is. What's 1.07 going to be worth? Maybe it would be worth it???

That's a tough call, can you move a first round pickand another player who may be expendable to moveup to 1.01 or 1.02 ?

Thinking along those lines as well. Researching our FA market in depth as we speak as well as looking for needs that the #'s 1 and 2 teams have as well. I also have a good amt of the dollars out league uses for FA. I have some options to look at.Best case is I can trade for a rb or pick one up in FA and sit with Calvin at 1.03. I would be happy with that. Who knows maybe Musa Smith or C. cobbs will end up being starters somewhere Thanks for the input. (feel like I am in the asst coach fourm)

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

You're better off taking Jarrett, Rice, or Russell.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

In a league where we start 3 RBs

and 3 WRs, I think a player like Irons

or Pittman may be more valuable.

 

[Schrute]

In a league where we start 3 RBsand 3 WRs, I think a player like Ironsor Pittman may be more valuable.

Didn't Irons' stock fall quite a bit late in the year?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Yes, but I still think he will be the 3rd or 4th RB taken.

This all depends on which teams these players end up on,

of course.

For example, if Pittman goes to the Giants

and Irons goes to the Rams,

then of course Pittman would be the obvious

fantasy pick over KI.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I have the 1.03 and 1.06. I really need a RB and I am sure C. Johnson will fall to me.How big is the fall-off at 1.04? Are we talking men and boys here?Would 1.06 and 1.03 be giving too much to move up? It would seem so to me. Johnson looks like the real deal.Sorry for the trip.

Depending on your Dynasty Factor, 1.06 and 1.04 (I think that's what you meant) for 1.03 might be a good move.If your rosters are deep and you believe in the names that will be there after the first 3, you may want to take two shots at 1.04 and 1.06 there.If you meant 2.03, well, we'll have to talk again.ETA - never mind, read further.You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

 

[Gottabesweet]

I should try 1.7 and 1.8 for 1.2 or 1.1

 

[BigTex]

I should try 1.7 and 1.8 for 1.2 or 1.1

Not sure that'll get.

 

[JohnnyU]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

 

[wannabee]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

is that like an autograph?

 

[JohnnyU]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

I just read the article on the Dynasty Pick Calculator, interesting. Maybe I will give it a try soon.

 

[el centro]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

Any chance you can adjust it for Flex - if not how would you suggest I setup the with the following lineup: 1-qb, 2-rb, 2-wr/te, 2-flex (rb/wr/te), 1-k, 1-d?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.

Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

Any chance you can adjust it for Flex - if not how would you suggest I setup the with the following lineup: 1-qb, 2-rb, 2-wr/te, 2-flex (rb/wr/te), 1-k, 1-d?

RB and WR are thisclose, so for flex splitting RB and WR (0.5 each) is good enough.I'll have to look at TE.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

You're talking 1.03 and 1.06 for a 1.01 or 1.02.

Check the calculator. .

The pick calculator doesn't mean squat when talking about fantasy rookie picks.

JohnnyU, Have you even read my sig?

Any chance you can adjust it for Flex - if not how would you suggest I setup the with the following lineup: 1-qb, 2-rb, 2-wr/te, 2-flex (rb/wr/te), 1-k, 1-d?

RB and WR are thisclose, so for flex splitting RB and WR (0.5 each) is good enough.I'll have to look at TE.

Incorporating the TE as a flex is a bit trickier, and I would go and look at your league and see what the typical lineup is on average. If on average the league is 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, I'd run with that.Too much weight on the TE will lower the DF (as TEs tend to last in the league a little longer than RB or WR), but if your league uses RB/WR almost exclusively I'd diminish the value of the position.

The best answer would come from your league history of starting the TEs. At first cut, I'd go 1-2-3-1-1-1 for starters and you'll be quite close. A DF of 4.5 vs. 4.3 isn't nearly as different as comparing league that differ by a full point or more.

(Feedback welcome on the DF / Calculator).

 

[blend]

i have the 1.3 and 1.4 in my dynasty league and I'm fully expecting to go Calvin Johnson and Jarrett. -- I'm not 'completely' sold on Jarrett yet, but I'm close. Someone would have to land in an incredible situation for me not to select him.l

 

[Ron_Mexico]

i have the 1.3 and 1.4 in my dynasty league and I'm fully expecting to go Calvin Johnson and Jarrett. -- I'm not 'completely' sold on Jarrett yet, but I'm close. Someone would have to land in an incredible situation for me not to select him.l

Calvin Johnson at 3 is an obvious choice,but #4 may take a little more research.Although I like Jarrett, his attitude and work ethichave been questioned. You can get away withtrits like this in college but it can can bite youin the NFL. Having said this, I think Jarrettt willbe a solid pro.I'll wait for the combines to make my 1.04 decision.It may be the best RB available if someoneemerges from the pack.Of course a lot hinges on where these players end up.

 

[Schrute]

i have the 1.3 and 1.4 in my dynasty league and I'm fully expecting to go Calvin Johnson and Jarrett. -- I'm not 'completely' sold on Jarrett yet, but I'm close. Someone would have to land in an incredible situation for me not to select him.l

Calvin Johnson at 3 is an obvious choice,but #4 may take a little more research.

Although I like Jarrett, his attitude and work ethic

have been questioned. You can get away with

trits like this in college but it can can bite you

in the NFL. Having said this, I think Jarrettt will

be a solid pro.

I'll wait for the combines to make my 1.04 decision.

It may be the best RB available if someone

emerges from the pack.

Of course a lot hinges on where these players end up.

How about the attitude he displayed in the bowl game, where he held the ball out and pointed at the defenders on the way to the end zone and then threw the ball in the lap of another defender after a different play? Seems like a P-U-N-K!!!

 

[ConstruxBoy]

i have the 1.3 and 1.4 in my dynasty league and I'm fully expecting to go Calvin Johnson and Jarrett. -- I'm not 'completely' sold on Jarrett yet, but I'm close. Someone would have to land in an incredible situation for me not to select him.l

Calvin Johnson at 3 is an obvious choice,but #4 may take a little more research.

Although I like Jarrett, his attitude and work ethic

have been questioned. You can get away with

trits like this in college but it can can bite you

in the NFL. Having said this, I think Jarrettt will

be a solid pro.

I'll wait for the combines to make my 1.04 decision.

It may be the best RB available if someone

emerges from the pack.

Of course a lot hinges on where these players end up.

How about the attitude he displayed in the bowl game, where he held the ball out and pointed at the defenders on the way to the end zone and then threw the ball in the lap of another defender after a different play? Seems like a P-U-N-K!!!

Yep, that made me wince. It probably doesn't affect his future pro potential, but sometimes an attitude can get you in the doghouse and slow your development at the pro level.

 

[toxicbees]

I'm thinking that #4 will be Calvin Johnson. There is going to be one RB that emerges from the rest of the pack because of a good Combine and the team he goes to. That will push Calvin down to the 4th.

I'm guessing that RB is either Michael Bush or Tony Hunt.

 

[toppshelff]

I have 1.03, 1.04 and 1.05 in a 4-keeper, 14 manager league. I've asked Jeff in TJ to consider a "keeper caluculator. With the equivalent of 56 players off the board, I see Adrian and Lynch being 1.01 and 1.02 (both guys need RBs). But does CJ become 1.03? Or do I go with somebody like DJax who might be available as a non-keeper?

Not looking for an answer on this specific question, but wondering how you folks integrate value of rookies with non-keepers...

Obviously, a lot more will be known after the draft.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I have 1.03, 1.04 and 1.05 in a 4-keeper, 14 manager league. I've asked Jeff in TJ to consider a "keeper caluculator. With the equivalent of 56 players off the board, I see Adrian and Lynch being 1.01 and 1.02 (both guys need RBs). But does CJ become 1.03? Or do I go with somebody like DJax who might be available as a non-keeper?Not looking for an answer on this specific question, but wondering how you folks integrate value of rookies with non-keepers...Obviously, a lot more will be known after the draft.

I'd take a Dynasty Ranking list and print it out.Then I'd draw a line after the grand total of the number of keepers (56 here).Any rookie above the line (assuming the rankings have the rookies, which they currently do not) I would circle as being the first off the boards in the Keeper draft. After they are gone, I'd start to look at normal calculator values beyond the 56 + the 5-10 rookies.To put it another way, the first round of a Keeper Draft is going to be rookie heavy, then it will start to look like a redraft draft.