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1.12: Who Should The Buffalo Bills Take? (1 Viewer)
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Bills focus will be on Patrick to fill the gaping hole at MLB in their cover-2.They will probably move up to #10 to take him if they are convinced SF will steal him. There is no other elite player that will give them as much value as Willis.Bills can get a RB in 2nd or 3rd round to form a RBBC. They will probably end up signing Chris Brown as well if Peterson doesn't fall into their lap. The CB will come in teh 3rd since they don;t need a lock down cover corner to execute the cover -2 zone scheme.Paul Posluszny OLB 6'2 238 Penn St.and Antonio Pittman or Lorenzo Booker in the 2nd?
Bills focus will be on Patrick to fill the gaping hole at MLB in their cover-2.They will probably move up to #10 to take him if they are convinced SF will steal him. There is no other elite player that will give them as much value as Willis.Bills can get a RB in 2nd or 3rd round to form a RBBC. They will probably end up signing Chris Brown as well if Peterson doesn't fall into their lap. The CB will come in teh 3rd since they don;t need a lock down cover corner to execute the cover -2 zone scheme.Paul Posluszny OLB 6'2 238 Penn St.
would love to see them go Willis, RB, CB if things break right for them. they have an extra 3rd they can use as trade bait if they need to move up to get someone they like, but they probably need to grab at least one player from each of those positions on day 1.
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pgreenfan
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I agree Willis makes a lot of sense but I think he just went at #11 in this thread series. I think defense is a major need for them and think that Posluszny would be a very good fit.Bills focus will be on Patrick to fill the gaping hole at MLB in their cover-2.They will probably move up to #10 to take him if they are convinced SF will steal him. There is no other elite player that will give them as much value as Willis.Bills can get a RB in 2nd or 3rd round to form a RBBC. They will probably end up signing Chris Brown as well if Peterson doesn't fall into their lap. The CB will come in teh 3rd since they don;t need a lock down cover corner to execute the cover -2 zone scheme.Paul Posluszny OLB 6'2 238 Penn St.and Antonio Pittman or Lorenzo Booker in the 2nd?
would love to see them go Willis, RB, CB if things break right for them. they have an extra 3rd they can use as trade bait if they need to move up to get someone they like, but they probably need to grab at least one player from each of those positions on day 1.
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Marc Faletti
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They'd probably be much better served trading a 2 to SD for Turner (if that's the asking price as has been mentioned on other threads) and using their #1 on D than nabbing Lynch here and waiting till the second to address CB or MLB.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
If they can't get Willis, they trade down, perhaps with Denver, who takes Lynch.
Anything else would be a reach....
Anything else would be a reach....
Poz is not a good fit for the Bills cover-2 since he is not fast enough or athletic enough to cover teh ground needed. He is a better fit in a more traditional defense where his smarts can be better utillized.I agree Willis makes a lot of sense but I think he just went at #11 in this thread series. I think defense is a major need for them and think that Posluszny would be a very good fit.Bills focus will be on Patrick to fill the gaping hole at MLB in their cover-2.They will probably move up to #10 to take him if they are convinced SF will steal him. There is no other elite player that will give them as much value as Willis.Bills can get a RB in 2nd or 3rd round to form a RBBC. They will probably end up signing Chris Brown as well if Peterson doesn't fall into their lap. The CB will come in teh 3rd since they don;t need a lock down cover corner to execute the cover -2 zone scheme.Paul Posluszny OLB 6'2 238 Penn St.and Antonio Pittman or Lorenzo Booker in the 2nd?
would love to see them go Willis, RB, CB if things break right for them. they have an extra 3rd they can use as trade bait if they need to move up to get someone they like, but they probably need to grab at least one player from each of those positions on day 1.
pgreenfan
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If they could get Michael Turner for their 2nd round pick I would think this would be a no brainer. The hard thing about that is they traded McGahee for 2 3rd round picks so that is a bit rough.
anything more than a 3rd rounder for Turner is overpaying. They will also have to fork over a big money contract for an unproven talent. He can run but it is questionable whether he can block, run patterns and pickup the blitz for a big money deal. It seems he would have been on teh field more in SD if he could do all those things
Just to be clear: I think Willis is the guy, but I also think Willis might not get past SF (if he's even on the board that long). Willis joins Peterson, Calvin Johnson, and Landry as the surest things in this draft (Hon Mention for Kalil, Thomas, and Adams)
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that's why I think the Bills will give up 100 points (about a 4th rounder) to move up to #10.Even with the move up, there in no one available that would give them the bang for the buck.
I'm going to be pissed if the Bills draft a CB with the #12 pick.
If Willis is gone and they don't trade down (or up), I'd much rather see them take Lynch. If CB is what they want, they should absolutely trade down before doing it as I don't think Leon Hall or anyone else is worth that high of a pick in this Bills defensive system.
If Willis is gone and they don't trade down (or up), I'd much rather see them take Lynch. If CB is what they want, they should absolutely trade down before doing it as I don't think Leon Hall or anyone else is worth that high of a pick in this Bills defensive system.
I agree Aaron. Brings back memories of the late 80s/90s when we seemed to pick a DB in the first every friggin year.
But I don't think we need to trade up. I'd rather hang on to the 4th, since I am hoping Willis is NOT the guy. I am hearing rumblings that PW cannot call a defensive - meaning, I suppose, that he is not the thinking man's linebacker. Instinctive is good, but a MLB has to be able to get the D lined up properly. I'll have to trust Marv on this one.
And I'm not too crazy about Lynch there either. I'd feel better if we could get him trading back. I don't want to go through the Whitner thing again.
So what does that leave? I don't know. For some reason I just don't like that 12 slot for what we need. Okoye (sp) is a 3 technique, not what we need, and he probably won't be there. Branch may be a bust with his current issues. We sure don't need another DE. WR is a decent need, but who is worth that spot outside of CJ? I guess we have to move it to get value - up or down.
If we go up it probably has to be for Peterson, but it is possible that he would be at 12 anyway. If we go back then we may be looking at a CB (bleeh) Poz or Lynch. Who knows. I just don't want to leave value on the table again this year. (Yes, I wish we had moved down and taken the chance on Whitner.)
But I don't think we need to trade up. I'd rather hang on to the 4th, since I am hoping Willis is NOT the guy. I am hearing rumblings that PW cannot call a defensive - meaning, I suppose, that he is not the thinking man's linebacker. Instinctive is good, but a MLB has to be able to get the D lined up properly. I'll have to trust Marv on this one.
And I'm not too crazy about Lynch there either. I'd feel better if we could get him trading back. I don't want to go through the Whitner thing again.
So what does that leave? I don't know. For some reason I just don't like that 12 slot for what we need. Okoye (sp) is a 3 technique, not what we need, and he probably won't be there. Branch may be a bust with his current issues. We sure don't need another DE. WR is a decent need, but who is worth that spot outside of CJ? I guess we have to move it to get value - up or down.
If we go up it probably has to be for Peterson, but it is possible that he would be at 12 anyway. If we go back then we may be looking at a CB (bleeh) Poz or Lynch. Who knows. I just don't want to leave value on the table again this year. (Yes, I wish we had moved down and taken the chance on Whitner.)
well, Crowell could call the plays and get people lined up. I don't think the MLB has to be the guy to do that.Willis is a prototypical MLB and I think he's going to be a star. He could single handedly upgrade the run defense, IMO, which was the Bills biggest weakness last year despite a career year from Fletcher.
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OldMilwaukee
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Peterson....or trade the pick!
I'm not too sure about Crowell either. Seems like there was much talk about how, not unlike Fletcher, his plays were being made downfield. That he is not the greatest tackler. I get to see too few games to be an authority. I just cull the morsals from the discussions. In either case, it would seem that LB is a, or THE core need for the Bills.
BTW, let me add that last year's DROY, Ryans, was taken at 2.01. He was not the most physical guy, the fastest guy, or anything 'special.' He was simply the best MLB in the draft. He plays smart. Give me that for a MLB, not the great 'specimen.'
My dream draft is - Peterson falls to 12 and Buffalo takes him. We package our 2nd and two 3rds to move up to the Giants slot and snag Poz out from under Belichick's nose. Then we pop a cold one.
My dream draft is - Peterson falls to 12 and Buffalo takes him. We package our 2nd and two 3rds to move up to the Giants slot and snag Poz out from under Belichick's nose. Then we pop a cold one.
I read it, I think, in a Kirwan commentary about how teams get too critical about players leading up to the draft. He didn't seem to agree with it, but the fact that it has been floated gives me pause. I will say that PW does in fact seem to offer the most (probable) value at our slot, but I am hoping for the above scenario. A guy can dream...
Crowell is one of the most athletic players on the team, but he's not exactly a physical run defender. I think the run defense is going to be hurt quite a bit if they go into the season with him at MLB.Given that, I agree that MLB is a massive need, and I think Willis is the best by far. Posluzny is more of an OLB but I think he could be a nice fallback option for the Bills and could certainly play inside. He's not the athlete that Willis is, which I think you need at MLB in a Cover-2 but he's probably adequate.#12 seems high for him to me though.
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Mr. Peterson
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Aaron Rudnicki said:
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Also would like Willis, Pittman, CB
The dream draft would be.
Hall at 12, Trade back in the first for Poz, and then get back into the second and grab Pittman!
:dreams:
The dream draft would be.
Hall at 12, Trade back in the first for Poz, and then get back into the second and grab Pittman!
:dreams:
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If Peterson and Willis are gone...
Robert Meachem
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That really would not surprise me since I don't like the value of the other possible options now that the Bills have filled their DL quota.CB and RB are not good values at #12.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If they don't get a better #2 than Peerless Price, Josh Reed, or Roscoe Parrish, then Lee Evans is going to be double teamed all season long.Evans/Meachem can be the next decade's Harrison/Wayne.As far as taking a CB at #12, there's two things - 1)They don't need to take a CB at that spot and 2) I definitely believe one of Chris Houston or Darrelle Revis will go in the top 12.
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