1/14 Mock Draft - New format - top 3 options per team, per pick (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

The rule for this draft was if a player was used in the "A" spot, they were crossed off the list.

The "A" spot is a combination of what I think they'll do and their best option at the pick. B and C are kind of best player/biggest need scenarios.

I did two options for pick #26. One assumes that the Browns gave up their 1st in trade up and the other doesn't. I have no idea what that cost will be.

St. Louis is the big winner in terms of picks.
Vikings the big loser in terms of QB.
I bit the bullet and gave the Rams a 1st round o-lineman.
Derek Carr could go anywhere from the top 10 to out of the 2nd entirely.
For some of the later picks I threw in some names that I think will be considered at those spots.

Round 1
1. Houston Texans
a. Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
b. Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
c. Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M

2. Cleveland (from St. Louis Rams (via Washington Redskins))
a. Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M
b. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
c. Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA

3. Jacksonville Jaguars
a. Blake Bortles - QB - UCF
b. Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
c. Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA

4. Atlanta (from St. Louis (from Cleveland Browns))
a. Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
b. Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
c. Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo

5. Oakland Raiders
a. Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA
b. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
c. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno St

6. St. Louis (from Atlanta Falcons)
a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
b. Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
c. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno St

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
a. Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
b. Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo
c. Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M

8. Minnesota Vikings
a. Trade (for QB)
b. Louis Nix - DT - Notre Dame
c. C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama

9. Buffalo Bills
a. Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo
b. Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
c. Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State

10. Detroit Lions
a. Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
b. Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
c. C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama

11. Tennessee Titans
a. Kony Ealy - DE - Missouri
b. Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
c. Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State

12. New York Giants
a. Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
b. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
c. Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn

13. St. Louis Rams
a. Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
b. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu - CB - Oregon
c. Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama

14. Chicago Bears
a. RaShede Hageman - DT - Minnesota
b. C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama
c. Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson

15. Pittsburgh Steelers
a. C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama
b. Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
c. Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama

16. Baltimore Ravens
a. Marqise Lee - WR - Southern California
b. Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
c. Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina

17. Dallas Cowboys
a. Timmy Jernigan - DT - Florida State
b. Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama
c. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame

18. New York Jets
a. Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida State
b. Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
c. Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame

19. Miami Dolphins
a. Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame
b. Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State
c. Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor

20. Arizona Cardinals
a. Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
b. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno State
c. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State

21. Green Bay Packers
a. Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
b. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
c. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame

22. Philadelphia Eagles
a. Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama
b. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
c. Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State

23. Kansas City Chiefs
a. Cyrus Kouandjio - OT - Alabama
b. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Washington
c. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno State

24. Cincinnati Bengals
a. Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State
b. Jason Verrett - CB - TCU
c. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford

25. San Diego Chargers
a. Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan
b. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
c. Kyle Van Noy - OLB - Brigham Young

26a. Cleveland Browns (via Indianapolis Colts)
a. Allen Robinson - WR - Penn State
b. Ka'Deem Carey - RB - Arizona
c. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State

26b. St. Louis (From Cleveland)
a. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
b. Calvin Pryor - FS - Louisville
c. Travis Swanson - C - Arkansas

27. New Orleans Saints
a. Jason Verrett - CB - TCU
b. Odell Beckham Jr. - WR - LSU
c. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame

28. New England Patriots
a. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
b. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
c. Jason Verrett - CB - TCU

29. Carolina Panthers
a. Odell Beckham Jr. - WR - LSU
b. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
c. Antonio Richardson - OT - Tennessee

30. Seattle Seahawks
a. Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
b. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
c. Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor

30. San Francisco 49ers
a. Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State
b. Travis Swanson - C - Arkansas
c. Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt

32. Denver Broncos
a. Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor
b. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford
c. Antonio Richardson - OT - Tennessee


Round 2
33. Houston
a. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
b. Calvin Pryor - FS - Louisville
c. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford

34. Washington
a. Antonio Richardson - OT - Tennessee
b. Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt
c. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Washington

35. St. Louis (from Cleveland)
a. Travis Swanson - C - Arkansas
b. Xavier Su'a-Filo - OG - UCLA
c. Ka'Deem Carey - RB - Arizona

36. Oakland
a. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno State
b. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford
c. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Washington

37. St. Louis (from Atlanta)
a. Xavier Su'a-Filo - OG - UCLA
b. Ka'Deem Carey - RB - Arizona
c. Kyle Van Noy - OLB - Brigham Young

38. Tampa Bay
a. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford
b. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Washington
c. Davante Adams - WR - Fresno State

39. Jacksonville
a. Scott Crichton - DE - Oregon State
b. Ka'Deem Carey - RB - Arizona
c. Marcus Roberson - CB - Florida

40. Minnesota
a. Zach Mettenberger - QB - LSU
b. Shayne Skov - ILB - Stanford
c. Marcus Roberson - CB - Florida

41. Buffalo
a. Austin Seferian-Jenkins - TE - Washington
b. Calvin Pryor - FS - Louisville
c. Bishop Sankey - RB - Washington

42. Tennessee
a. Tre Mason - RB - Auburn
b. Trevor Reilly - DE - Utah
c. Davante Adams - WR - Fresno State

 

[matttyl]

That many early round (1st round) WRs?

Great list!

 

[Timmay]

Love it. Nice Mock.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That many early round (1st round) WRs?

Great list!

Watkins/Evans/Lee are givens, I think.Benjamin could benefit from the C Patterson effect of a raw guy coming in and making an impact. Jets are in dire need of WR help.

Robinson/Beckham/Cooks are all real nice 1b-tier guys.

And it is such a passing league now...

 

[ebsteelers]

if St. Louis does that, they could really become a loaded gun (Watkins, Robinson, and a corner plus an early 2nd rounder) nice stuff.

what do you have the Browns giving up to move to number 2? Colts first and their 2nd rounder?

seems like a steep price

 

[Late225]

Why the Cleveland trade assumption? Are there rumors that I missed aside from conjecture that they've said their priority #1 is finding a quarterback? When I saw this I went straight ESPN to make sure I didn't miss a trade, lol.

 

[ebsteelers]

I can see the rams making one move back to 4, but not back to 6 also. Because if they move to 4 they still get clowney,

1st pick Clowney DE

2nd pick Robinson OT

3rd pick BEST WR

 

[cheese]

I really like this format.

For my team, I would have had Bengals with...

a) Gilbert

b) Lewan if he's capable of playing inside when needed

c) Verrett

If they don't think Lewan can play the swing/depth position, then I think they bump Verrett to 2 and look at Swanson if they like him enough. Maybe Shazier if not.

Bengals are notoriously BPA, but I think if it's even close, it's OL or DB.

 

[Blackjacks]

I can see the rams making one move back to 4, but not back to 6 also. Because if they move to 4 they still get clowney,

1st pick Clowney DE

2nd pick Robinson OT

3rd pick BEST WR

Why do you think they would want Clowney?

The 2 guys they want with their first pick (where ever it is) is Jake Mathews or Sammy Watkins, IMO

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if St. Louis does that, they could really become a loaded gun (Watkins, Robinson, and a corner plus an early 2nd rounder) nice stuff.

what do you have the Browns giving up to move to number 2? Colts first and their 2nd rounder?

seems like a steep price

For this mock I had my cake and ate it too. I started with the assumption that they'd only give up their 1st and 2nd. But then I made two picks at 26, one each for the Browns and Rams, to account for the possibility they'd have to give up their 1st for that move up.

Why the Cleveland trade assumption? Are there rumors that I missed aside from conjecture that they've said their priority #1 is finding a quarterback? When I saw this I went straight ESPN to make sure I didn't miss a trade, lol.

Because there are a number of teams that could trade up into that #2 position, not to mention Jacksonville at #3 that could also take a QB.

I can see the rams making one move back to 4, but not back to 6 also. Because if they move to 4 they still get clowney,

1st pick Clowney DE

2nd pick Robinson OT

3rd pick BEST WR

Like most, I think Clowney is overkill since they have Quinn and Long. I don't know if you take a guy to simply rotate in with the #6 pick.

 

[sho nuff]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Ted Thompson will ever take a TE in the first round.

And if somehow Ha-Ha falls to them and they pass for a TE...Ted Thompson will be run out of town.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Ted Thompson will ever take a TE in the first round.

And if somehow Ha-Ha falls to them and they pass for a TE...Ted Thompson will be run out of town.

Yeah, you see, that's why I gave three options.One other thing I did was not double up on one position per team and if at all possible it tried not to even double up on units.

Oh and Thompson tries to go BPA which at this spot in the mock was Ebron.

 

[Slapdash]

Why the Cleveland trade assumption? Are there rumors that I missed aside from conjecture that they've said their priority #1 is finding a quarterback? When I saw this I went straight ESPN to make sure I didn't miss a trade, lol.

They have the need for a QB and the ammo to make it happen.

 

[sho nuff]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Ted Thompson will ever take a TE in the first round.

And if somehow Ha-Ha falls to them and they pass for a TE...Ted Thompson will be run out of town.

Yeah, you see, that's why I gave three options.One other thing I did was not double up on one position per team and if at all possible it tried not to even double up on units.

And its not just you. I have seen multiple places where people are projecting a TE there. Mainly because of the FInley contract being up and injury.

Part of it is also me thinking Clinton-Dix will be gone by then...but hoping he would somehow fall cause he looks more like a difference maker at safety that the Packers have not had once Collins was hurt.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Safeties in general are tough to slot. It's kind of a forsaken position in the NFL. Except when that one team gets hot and bothered for one.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Would be shocked if the Chiefs take another OT in the 1st round. Biggest needs are FS, WR, TE, DE.

Would be surprised if Jace Amaro doesn't go in the 1st.

Which QB do you think the Vikings would get for pick 8?

 

[Timmay]

I can see the rams making one move back to 4, but not back to 6 also. Because if they move to 4 they still get clowney,

1st pick Clowney DE

2nd pick Robinson OT

3rd pick BEST WR

I don't understand the Rams love for Clowney so much. They have an emerging star in Quinn and Long is one of their leaders on Defense and pretty solid himself. They need more help at OL or DB than DL. I could see them getting a DL in the 3rd or 4th for a rotation play with Quinn and Long but not a #6 overall pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Would be shocked if the Chiefs take another OT in the 1st round. Biggest needs are FS, WR, TE, DE.

Would be surprised if Jace Amaro doesn't go in the 1st.

Which QB do you think the Vikings would get for pick 8?

Albert won't be re-signed and Fisher struggled this year but might be better on his natural left side. It would be a position change for Cyrus but he could be a great RT. WR Is definitely N option.If the Vikes can't get Manziel or Bortles I don't think they will go QB at 8. They could trade up for either of those two though.

 

[Timmay]

I really like this format.

For my team, I would have had Bengals with...

a) Gilbert

b) Lewan if he's capable of playing inside when needed

c) Verrett

If they don't think Lewan can play the swing/depth position, then I think they bump Verrett to 2 and look at Swanson if they like him enough. Maybe Shazier if not.

Bengals are notoriously BPA, but I think if it's even close, it's OL or DB.

I like the Gilbert pick, I really do think they need to go CB here. Even if Gilbert isn't around, maybe trade down a couple spots and take Verrett.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Alternate picks aren't new, but the layout might be, well organized and easy to follow, good job.

Don't know if STL could get Watkins and Robinson with the first two picks, but that would be their perfect draft (after a trade down or two) and I've been saying so for a while. If they could get the IND pick from CLE, it would likely be a DB, and Gilbert or Pryor would be excellent choices (you are right, Clinton-Dix would probably be gone already). I wouldn't even mind Cyril Richardson with that pick, adding one of the top guards to one of the top LTs (STL with a lot of OL uncertainty between injury, free agency, age and salary cap) but that would be two first round OL, and they may not take one. I agree with a comment that if they get the 1.4 and the IND pick, not sure they could get a second, also? Also that if STL trades with CLE and QB goes 1-2-3, leaving Clowney at 1.4, a second surgical move down with ATL could make sense for both teams, and mentioned this recently. Snead came from ATL, and they made a trade in the first round in the last draft. STL traded down from a high first round pick TWICE in 2012 (first WAS than DAL). Of the six trades involving a top 10 pick since Fisher and Snead were hired in 2012, three or 50% involved STL. None of their three firsts were taken from the original spot.

As to Fisher and the conspicuous absence of first round OL, not sure he had authority over Floyd Reese? If not, that could make the observation a moot point (though maybe he had heavy input if not final authority and decision)? Also, he inherited Hall of Famers Matthews and Munchak who had 10 All Pros each, not the case in STL (and the Rams were going to draft Warford in 2013 if Ogletree was gone). As to the very important sequence of the first pick (1.2-1.4-1.6?) and second first rounder at 1.13, I used to think Robinson would be more likely to fall, but now not sure about that at all. I do want Watkins a lot. But Robinson about the same. Watkins would be a true WR1 that they don't currently have. But Bailey was starting the last few games and is IMO massively underrated. Austin was more effective once the OC became more creative in how to get the ball to him, so there could be a lot of latent, untapped production from that source. Between Givens/Quick, maybe one of them emerges as a competent WR3? STL made a big commitment to the run game. As good as Watkins is, he might only actually handle the ball 3-4-5 times some games (though certainly capable of a lot more if they choose to feature him more prominently). Of course, just his presence would draw coverage away from Austin and Bailey every play, so that needs to be factored into the cost/benefit analysis and accounted for. But Robinson would be involved in every play (why QB, LT and DE are so coveted, they have a huge impact through sheer VOLUME). He is the best run blocker in the class (good fit for Fisher and in the physical NFC West), not a lot of film on his pass blocking for scheme reasons, but he is athletic and if he is coached up, has Pro Bowl potential and the talent to be dominant. Snead is an Auburn alumni, and Fisher's son was a teammate of Robinson.

 

[FUBAR]

Love your work here, but I'll be shocked if QBs go 1,2,3

surprised to see the first time you list Lewann at #25. He may fall that far, as he hasn't done well in the 2nd half of the season, but he'll be considered before that.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Love your work here, but I'll be shocked if QBs go 1,2,3

surprised to see the first time you list Lewann at #25. He may fall that far, as he hasn't done well in the 2nd half of the season, but he'll be considered before that.

Could be considered by the Steelers, Ravens, and Cardinals, I suppose.

 

[The Hank]

The rule for this draft was if a player was used in the "A" spot, they were crossed off the list.

The "A" spot is a combination of what I think they'll do and their best option at the pick. B and C are kind of best player/biggest need scenarios.

I did two options for pick #26. One assumes that the Browns gave up their 1st in trade up and the other doesn't. I have no idea what that cost will be.


Round 1

15. Pittsburgh Steelers
a. C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama
b. Vic Beasley - OLB - Clemson
c. Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama

Not bad Andy -- My only critque is that I would heavily doubt they go ILB or OLB in the 1st after going that way last year. OLB they are going to have Jarvis Jones, plus they will resign Worlids/Cut Woodley or let Worlids Test FA/Keep Woodley. Also I've read that LeBeau is content with the guys they have at ILB w/ Timmons, LeBeau has been pleased with development of 6th Rder Vince Williams and UDFA Terence Garvin.

Based on that, here is what my top 3 would be:

a. Louis Nix III - NT - Notre Dame

b. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama

c. Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame

The biggest areas of need for Steelers are (by far) NT/DE/Secondary (CB & S included)

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mosley would just be too much value/impact for the Steelers to lay off of at that point, IMO.

And here I already had Nix going to the Vikings.

 

[The Hank]

Mosley would just be too much value/impact for the Steelers to lay off of at that point, IMO.

And here I already had Nix going to the Vikings.

Oh I'm sorry Andy -- Vikings (a) was going to be traded for a QB so that's why I skipped over them. Whoops!

Steelers do need help everywhere on D, ILB is more likely than OLB; but eventually Steelers FA is going to have to invest high picks in the Secondary, specifcally at CB.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Mosley would just be too much value/impact for the Steelers to lay off of at that point, IMO.

And here I already had Nix going to the Vikings.

Oh I'm sorry Andy -- Vikings (a) was going to be traded for a QB so that's why I skipped over them. Whoops!

Steelers do need help everywhere on D, ILB is more likely than OLB; but eventually Steelers FA is going to have to invest high picks in the Secondary, specifcally at CB.

That's okay. The rules here were kind of broken with the Vikings pick.

Not a great year to need a CB.

 

[ImTheScientist]

30. Seattle Seahawks
a. Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
b. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
c. Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor

I like where you are going with picks B and C. My issues are the following....

Cooks is too small. I think they target a guy with size if they go WR. Maybe someone like Brandon Coleman,Kelvin Benjamin, or Jordan Matthews. For your TE pick they are more likely to go for a guy like Austin Seferian-Jenkins imo instead of Amaro. Amaro is too much like Willson.

The combine will really help to dictate where they go....they love size/speed athletic freaks.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

30. Seattle Seahawks
a. Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
b. Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
c. Cyril Richardson - OG - Baylor

I like where you are going with picks B and C. My issues are the following....

Cooks is too small. I think they target a guy with size if they go WR. Maybe someone like Brandon Coleman,Kelvin Benjamin, or Jordan Matthews. For your TE pick they are more likely to go for a guy like Austin Seferian-Jenkins imo instead of Amaro. Amaro is too much like Willson.

The combine will really help to dictate where they go....they love size/speed athletic freaks.

Yeah, I could see that regarding the WRs. I think Matthews is underrated because he doesn't have elite speed. But the little I watched him he exhibited nice body control, route running, and ball tracking skills.

 

[Grahamburn]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

 

[ebsteelers]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

 

[Premier]

Your second round is out of order. Bucs have pick 35. I think it goes backwards from the first.

 

[Grahamburn]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

 

[Slapdash]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

Glennon isn't their guy. Add Underwood too.

 

[Grahamburn]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

Glennon isn't their guy. Add Underwood too.

Everyone around the Tampa area seems to have already closed the book on him as well. I posted a comparison of him to Andrew Luck (obvious franchise QB) in another thread. Glennon had a better completion percentage and better TD/INT ratio than Luck in their respective rookie seasons. Luck also had the benefit of an entire training camp as the starter, a better receiving corps, better coaching, and 3 more games. Josh Freeman had a 20/6 TD/INT ratio in his second full season (Glennon's was 19/9 this year in 13 games), and everyone was salivating over how great he'd be.

I don't see why so many people are ready to give up on Mike Glennon after just one tumultuous first season in Tampa.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

c. Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State

Can't imagine he's big enough to be a 3-4 OLB

 

[Andy Dufresne]

c. Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State

Can't imagine he's big enough to be a 3-4 OLB

I thought about that. He could add some bulk and retain his physicality.But the is better suited for 4-3. I should have included him as an option for the Giants. Paired with Beason, all of a sudden their LB corps doesn't look bad at all.

 

[ebsteelers]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

Glennon isn't their guy. Add Underwood too.

Everyone around the Tampa area seems to have already closed the book on him as well. I posted a comparison of him to Andrew Luck (obvious franchise QB) in another thread. Glennon had a better completion percentage and better TD/INT ratio than Luck in their respective rookie seasons. Luck also had the benefit of an entire training camp as the starter, a better receiving corps, better coaching, and 3 more games. Josh Freeman had a 20/6 TD/INT ratio in his second full season (Glennon's was 19/9 this year in 13 games), and everyone was salivating over how great he'd be.

I don't see why so many people are ready to give up on Mike Glennon after just one tumultuous first season in Tampa.

Good posting

 

[Slapdash]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

Glennon isn't their guy. Add Underwood too.

Everyone around the Tampa area seems to have already closed the book on him as well. I posted a comparison of him to Andrew Luck (obvious franchise QB) in another thread. Glennon had a better completion percentage and better TD/INT ratio than Luck in their respective rookie seasons. Luck also had the benefit of an entire training camp as the starter, a better receiving corps, better coaching, and 3 more games. Josh Freeman had a 20/6 TD/INT ratio in his second full season (Glennon's was 19/9 this year in 13 games), and everyone was salivating over how great he'd be.

I don't see why so many people are ready to give up on Mike Glennon after just one tumultuous first season in Tampa.

Glennon just fails the eye test so badly. I remember one game he just through it away on 4th in goal when they needed a score because nobody was open. That's just not a winner.

 

[ebsteelers]

Vincent Jackson, Mike Williams, and Mike Evans would make a rather large receiving corps for the Bucs.

add doug martin and carl nicks back in the mix, all of a sudden that offense dont look too shabby

Filthy group of skill players if the Bucs add Watkins or Evans. They'd know quickly whether or not Glennon is their guy.

Glennon isn't their guy. Add Underwood too.

Everyone around the Tampa area seems to have already closed the book on him as well. I posted a comparison of him to Andrew Luck (obvious franchise QB) in another thread. Glennon had a better completion percentage and better TD/INT ratio than Luck in their respective rookie seasons. Luck also had the benefit of an entire training camp as the starter, a better receiving corps, better coaching, and 3 more games. Josh Freeman had a 20/6 TD/INT ratio in his second full season (Glennon's was 19/9 this year in 13 games), and everyone was salivating over how great he'd be.

I don't see why so many people are ready to give up on Mike Glennon after just one tumultuous first season in Tampa.

Glennon just fails the eye test so badly. I remember one game he just through it away on 4th in goal when they needed a score because nobody was open. That's just not a winner.

I think has something to do with his jumbo sized helmet and his peanut head