1.14: Who Should The Carolina Panthers Take? (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

Who should the Panthers take?

For the first time in a while, we have 4 different answers.

 

[QUEZILLA]

If they move Jenkins, they will need to address the D-line.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If they move Jenkins, they will need to address the D-line.

If Okoye, Anderson, Adams, and Branch are gone, is there a DT/DE worth the 14?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

 

[Bonzai]

If they move Jenkins, they will need to address the D-line.

If Okoye, Anderson, Adams, and Branch are gone, is there a DT/DE worth the 14?

carriker

 

[perry147]

Quinn would be the dream pick for them here at 14 but I have doubts that he will be there.

On a needs basis I think the Panthers have needs at inside linebacker, safety, and tight end.

I could see Miami's TE Greg Olsen being their pick other considerations (but likely gone already) Patrick Willis or LaRon Landr.

I have not been keeping up with this draft thread and if my picks seem out of place - my bad.

 

[Marc Faletti]

Hey all!

You guys are right, no way Quinn's there in reality, but since this is my "ideal" draft, this is the first spot where I believe he makes real sense. Now if I could just get the universe to bend to my will a _little_ more...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Hey all!You guys are right, no way Quinn's there in reality, but since this is my "ideal" draft, this is the first spot where I believe he makes real sense. Now if I could just get the universe to bend to my will a _little_ more...

Who knows anymore, though. Could it be possible to see Brady Quinn fall as far as Aaron Rogers did? Remember the run-up to that draft? They were saying Rogers could be the #1 overall at one point. Ended up going, what, 18th? or something ridiculous like that.So who knows?

 

[lord_helmet]

I'm going to side with the Reggie Nelson selection, he seems like a very nice fit in Carolina. Olsen is another strong option though, as pointed out they need another weapon in the passing game.

 

[TheGreatest]

They need to trade K. Jenkins to Denver for A. Wilson and then make a move in the draft to move up a few spots to grab either Branch or Akoye. If they don't move, the G. Olsen would be a nice pick up.

 

[pantherclub]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

 

[BassNBrew]

I doubt that a team that doesn't utilize a TE in the passing attack will take a TE in the first. Smith/Key/Carter offer plenty of aerial weapons, the issue has been a lackluster run game. I don't see them sacrificing 07 like Denver gave up on 06 to take a QB at this pick.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I doubt that a team that doesn't utilize a TE in the passing attack will take a TE in the first. Smith/Key/Carter offer plenty of aerial weapons, the issue has been a lackluster run game. I don't see them sacrificing 07 like Denver gave up on 06 to take a QB at this pick.

They have a new OC* and their offense will be significantly different than in years past.*Jeff Davidson has a history of working with the TE position, most recently with the Browns and KWII.

 

[rpreswood]

I doubt that a team that doesn't utilize a TE in the passing attack will take a TE in the first. Smith/Key/Carter offer plenty of aerial weapons, the issue has been a lackluster run game. I don't see them sacrificing 07 like Denver gave up on 06 to take a QB at this pick.

They have a new OC* and their offense will be significantly different than in years past.*Jeff Davidson has a history of working with the TE position, most recently with the Browns and KWII.

I'm not crazy on them taking Olsen in the 1st either but it's a real possibility with Davidson as OC now. I also heard on local radio in Charlotte today there is a connection between Fox and Olsen. They both attended the same church in NJ when Fox was with the Giants. However, if Willis is there I think they take him first. Olsen will be the pick if he's gone. I don't see them taking a safety unless Landry falls. Quinn is no longer an option since they signed Carr.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

However, if Willis is there I think they take him first. Olsen will be the pick if he's gone. I don't see them taking a safety unless Landry falls. Quinn is no longer an option since they signed Carr.

I agree that its Willis if he falls. but then again, its Willis for the Niners, Bills, and Rams too. I would shocked if he falls to 14 with so many teams that need an ILB in between the point where Willis becomes decent value and the Panthers pick.

 

[BassNBrew]

I doubt that a team that doesn't utilize a TE in the passing attack will take a TE in the first. Smith/Key/Carter offer plenty of aerial weapons, the issue has been a lackluster run game. I don't see them sacrificing 07 like Denver gave up on 06 to take a QB at this pick.

They have a new OC* and their offense will be significantly different than in years past.*Jeff Davidson has a history of working with the TE position, most recently with the Browns and KWII.

I'd hope he'd have a history given that he was a line coach. I didn't realize that part of this stunning coup to co-opt the powerhouse Brownies offensive mastermind was to give him the final say on the first round pick.You think Davidson's experience with TE's from Miami with Rosenhaus as their agent might have an impact???

 

[lord_helmet]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

So you think they're all set at Safety with Mike Minter, Deke Cooper and Nate Selley ?

 

[bcr8f]

Hey all!You guys are right, no way Quinn's there in reality, but since this is my "ideal" draft, this is the first spot where I believe he makes real sense. Now if I could just get the universe to bend to my will a _little_ more...

Who knows anymore, though. Could it be possible to see Brady Quinn fall as far as Aaron Rogers did? Remember the run-up to that draft? They were saying Rogers could be the #1 overall at one point. Ended up going, what, 18th? or something ridiculous like that.So who knows?

Rogers went 24th I think to GB.

 

[pantherclub]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

So you think they're all set at Safety with Mike Minter, Deke Cooper and Nate Selley ?

We tried drafting a safety in the first (Thomas Davis) and it didnt work. DL and OL are huge holes for us. LIke I said look for the Panthers to go up (if they trade Jenkins) or down if nobody falls to them.

 

[lord_helmet]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

So you think they're all set at Safety with Mike Minter, Deke Cooper and Nate Selley ?

We tried drafting a safety in the first (Thomas Davis) and it didnt work. DL and OL are huge holes for us. LIke I said look for the Panthers to go up (if they trade Jenkins) or down if nobody falls to them.

And this logic applies how ? Davis was always a tweener with unlimited potential and still too early to label as a bust. Reggie Nelson can lay the wood and he can cover, he's willing in run support and will make plays all over the field. Not disregarding your other needs or pretending to know more than a Panthers fan, but considering the trend of drafting Safeties with higher and higher picks, it seems to me Nelson is a player the Panthers should consider in the 1st round.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd hope he'd have a history given that he was a line coach. I didn't realize that part of this stunning coup to co-opt the powerhouse Brownies offensive mastermind was to give him the final say on the first round pick.

There's very little I like less than when people put words in my mouth.I never said that they were giving him final say. I merely stated that their new OC, the one they JUST hired, has a history of getting performance out of the TE position.It makes little sense that they'd hire a guy and then have him coach away from what he does best. "Hey Jeff, we know you've worked with Ben Coates and Kellen Winslow Jr. and that you helped them to career years. But we don't do it that way around here."

You think Davidson's experience with TE's from Miami with Rosenhaus as their agent might have an impact???

I dunno. Do you think that getting 89 catches (what Winslow did in Cleveland last year) from the tight end position would hurt or help the Panther's offense?

 

[Sammy3469]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

So you think they're all set at Safety with Mike Minter, Deke Cooper and Nate Selley ?

We tried drafting a safety in the first (Thomas Davis) and it didnt work. DL and OL are huge holes for us. LIke I said look for the Panthers to go up (if they trade Jenkins) or down if nobody falls to them.

Davis has worked out decently well as an LB which is what they said he'd be when he was drafted. Even if they trade Jenkins (which I don't think they will since no one will give them what they want), they will have a decent enough DL with Lewis and Kemo (DE might be another matter). Luckily for them at 14 there's a bunch of different ways to go with this pick and they all make sense...if I had to guess I think they are more inclined to go defense with Landry and Willis being the two obvious choices followed by Nelson (I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of those guys are gone though). I also wouldn't be shocked if they took Anderson if he was there (Carriker doesn't seem like a DE they'd be interested in). On offense there's obviously Olsen since he opens up the middle for them and I think they'd be interested in Brown if available. Other than that, I don't see much unless they think Ginn would add a dimension they are currently lacking.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'd hope he'd have a history given that he was a line coach. I didn't realize that part of this stunning coup to co-opt the powerhouse Brownies offensive mastermind was to give him the final say on the first round pick.

There's very little I like less than when people put words in my mouth.I never said that they were giving him final say. I merely stated that their new OC, the one they JUST hired, has a history of getting performance out of the TE position.It makes little sense that they'd hire a guy and then have him coach away from what he does best. "Hey Jeff, we know you've worked with Ben Coates and Kellen Winslow Jr. and that you helped them to career years. But we don't do it that way around here."

You think Davidson's experience with TE's from Miami with Rosenhaus as their agent might have an impact???

I dunno. Do you think that getting 89 catches (what Winslow did in Cleveland last year) from the tight end position would hurt or help the Panther's offense?

I think this is Fox's and Hurney's team, not Davidson's. Actually I think he was an attrocious hire. The last pass recv TE they brought in retired. Another offensive weapon isn't what they need. The oline needs to be shored up and the defense needs some speed.89 catches over three years doesn't amount to much. Given a do over, I bet the Browns' wouldn't select Winslow.

 

[pantherclub]

- Very little chance that Patrick Willis will be there.

- It will be a traveshamockery if Quinn is.

- #16 is far to high to take a free safety.

- I like Bloom's choice of Greg Olsen. Not surprising considering that's who I had them taking in my most recent mock.

For the purposes of this exercise, I'll throw out the name Joe Staley. Jordan Gross is now playing on the right side and Travelle Wharton is recovering from a season-ending knee surgery.

Add to that the fact that Carolina is said to be moving to a zone blocking scheme, which fits Staley perfectly, I think he should get STRONG consideration by the Panthers.

I think you are right here, but the problem here is they dont NEED a TE like they need OL, DL and LB help so really a TE doesnt really address their glowing weaknesses, so i dont think they go that route. There is no way quinn drops to 14. I can defenitly see the Panthers trading up or down.

So you think they're all set at Safety with Mike Minter, Deke Cooper and Nate Selley ?

We tried drafting a safety in the first (Thomas Davis) and it didnt work. DL and OL are huge holes for us. LIke I said look for the Panthers to go up (if they trade Jenkins) or down if nobody falls to them.

Davis has worked out decently well as an LB which is what they said he'd be when he was drafted. Even if they trade Jenkins (which I don't think they will since no one will give them what they want), they will have a decent enough DL with Lewis and Kemo (DE might be another matter). Luckily for them at 14 there's a bunch of different ways to go with this pick and they all make sense...if I had to guess I think they are more inclined to go defense with Landry and Willis being the two obvious choices followed by Nelson (I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 of those guys are gone though). I also wouldn't be shocked if they took Anderson if he was there (Carriker doesn't seem like a DE they'd be interested in). On offense there's obviously Olsen since he opens up the middle for them and I think they'd be interested in Brown if available. Other than that, I don't see much unless they think Ginn would add a dimension they are currently lacking.

I am not saying Davis is a bust, but he definetly has not shown that he was first round worthy. He has a big hit every other game and that is it. When the Panthers drafted him (over Derrick Johnson) they liked the fact that he could play 2 positions. Well he cant, and now he cannot even play LB well so for now that is a wasted 1rst rd pick. Unless you can get a mega safety then the Panthers need to draft other needs. Maybe the kid from LSU is mega, but Nelson certainly is not.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'd hope he'd have a history given that he was a line coach. I didn't realize that part of this stunning coup to co-opt the powerhouse Brownies offensive mastermind was to give him the final say on the first round pick.

There's very little I like less than when people put words in my mouth.I never said that they were giving him final say. I merely stated that their new OC, the one they JUST hired, has a history of getting performance out of the TE position.It makes little sense that they'd hire a guy and then have him coach away from what he does best. "Hey Jeff, we know you've worked with Ben Coates and Kellen Winslow Jr. and that you helped them to career years. But we don't do it that way around here."

You think Davidson's experience with TE's from Miami with Rosenhaus as their agent might have an impact???

I dunno. Do you think that getting 89 catches (what Winslow did in Cleveland last year) from the tight end position would hurt or help the Panther's offense?

I think this is Fox's and Hurney's team, not Davidson's. Actually I think he was an attrocious hire. The last pass recv TE they brought in retired. Another offensive weapon isn't what they need. The oline needs to be shored up and the defense needs some speed.89 catches over three years doesn't amount to much. Given a do over, I bet the Browns' wouldn't select Winslow.

Winslow caught 89 balls LAST YEAR. Not over three years.Shore up the o-line and get some defensive speed in rounds 2+.But, whatever. You're right in that this team could go any number of ways as it has a surprising number of holes to fill.