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12.22.21 - Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling his job as president? (1 Viewer)

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling his job as president?

  • Approve

    Votes: 55 45.1%
  • Disapprove

    Votes: 67 54.9%

  • Total voters
    122
By no reasonable measure did Biden have a good year.  Very disappointed to see such a large percentage of “Approve”.

I’m a Republican who voted for Trump in 2016.  I liked his policies but hated the man, and in 2020 I voted for Biden.  I was really hoping he’d be a moderating force and not too Liberal.  That’s kind of what he promised.  After day 1 when he canceled the successful “Remain in Mexico” program and shut down the pipeline, I knew we were in trouble.  And it’s been downhill ever since.  Terrible President.

 
:goodposting:   Shut the border and cut off aide to Central America.   
You’re entitled to think this way. But personally Im not going to trust anyone that does think this way to evaluate Biden’s performance. In fact I would be highly troubled about any politician that you DID approve of (which is already the case of course.) 

 
By no reasonable measure did Biden have a good year. 
This is simply not true. 

1. Infrastructure bill. 
2. 6 million new jobs. 
3. Major reduction in child poverty. 
4. Vaccine distribution. 

I could go on and on. There are plenty of positives. You can argue that the negatives outweigh them, and indeed you and I are going to disagree about exactly what defines a negative in the first place. 
But stop using phrases like “by no reasonable measure”. 

 
You’re entitled to think this way. But personally Im not going to trust anyone that does think this way to evaluate Biden’s performance. In fact I would be highly troubled about any politician that you DID approve of (which is already the case of course.) 
Also…the minute we shut off aid…we get those claiming how many are dying because of it.  Just as the minute we free up money ti Afghanistan…the same complaining now ill complain we are paying terrorists.

No.  We should not shut off aid to South America.  That increases issues in those countries  and leads to lore people trying to come here.  Willing to risk whatever to do so.

 
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You’re entitled to think this way. But personally Im not going to trust anyone that does think this way to evaluate Biden’s performance. In fact I would be highly troubled about any politician that you DID approve of (which is already the case of course.) 
You choose politicians based on people on a message board?  
You need help. Please stop responding to me. TiA. 

 
You choose politicians based on people on a message board?  
You need help. Please stop responding to me. TiA. 
Thank you for your concern. The help I need will come when your ideas have been defeated. Also, thank you, but I think I will continue to respond to you from time to time. 

 
Biden is just not a Leader, he inspires zero confidence and as his age continues to catch-up with him he can be down-right odd or even creepy at times…a President needs to be able to get in-front of the American public and answer unscripted questions that are not pre-selected from friendly sources…Biden does not do this because he can not do it and his inner-circle knows it...this is going to be a fatal flaw in his Presidency…at no time will he be able to deliver a speech or do a press conference that will make the majority of Americans feel like we are in good hands…add in the fact that he chose a totally unqualified VP who scares many more than Biden does and I just don’t see Biden ever getting out of the hole he is in…bottom line…he is not Leader.

 
By no reasonable measure did Biden have a good year.  Very disappointed to see such a large percentage of “Approve”.

I’m a Republican who voted for Trump in 2016.  I liked his policies but hated the man, and in 2020 I voted for Biden.  I was really hoping he’d be a moderating force and not too Liberal.  That’s kind of what he promised.  After day 1 when he canceled the successful “Remain in Mexico” program and shut down the pipeline, I knew we were in trouble.  And it’s been downhill ever since.  Terrible President.
Biden is doing a horrible job.  The economy is in tatters.  Illegal immigration is exploding which is going to cost taxpayers billions.  Covid is getting worse due to his admins assumption that the virus was fading away a few months ago.   The worst part is Biden is still dividing the country using race and wealth.   Things are going to go from bad to worse over the next 3 years.  Would like to hear that I’m wrong.   

 
Biden is doing a horrible job.  The economy is in tatters.  Illegal immigration is exploding which is going to cost taxpayers billions.  Covid is getting worse due to his admins assumption that the virus was fading away a few months ago.   The worst part is Biden is still dividing the country using race and wealth.   Things are going to go from bad to worse over the next 3 years.  Would like to hear that I’m wrong.   
Economy in tatters?

 
Biden is doing a horrible job.  The economy is in tatters.  Illegal immigration is exploding which is going to cost taxpayers billions.  Covid is getting worse due to his admins assumption that the virus was fading away a few months ago.   The worst part is Biden is still dividing the country using race and wealth.   Things are going to go from bad to worse over the next 3 years.  Would like to hear that I’m wrong.   
I stopped reading at this point.  Where do you get your information from?  No matter how well Biden did, it would not matter to someone that refuses to see reality.  

 
Biden is just not a Leader, he inspires zero confidence and as his age continues to catch-up with him he can be down-right odd or even creepy at times…a President needs to be able to get in-front of the American public and answer unscripted questions that are not pre-selected from friendly sources…Biden does not do this because he can not do it and his inner-circle knows it...this is going to be a fatal flaw in his Presidency…at no time will he be able to deliver a speech or do a press conference that will make the majority of Americans feel like we are in good hands…add in the fact that he chose a totally unqualified VP who scares many more than Biden does and I just don’t see Biden ever getting out of the hole he is in…bottom line…he is not Leader.
I'm assuming by your post and your gripes, that the last president that you appreciated would have been Obama?  Delivering a good speech and answering unscripted press questions seems to be one of the most important things to you.

 
I'm assuming by your post and your gripes, that the last president that you appreciated would have been Obama?  Delivering a good speech and answering unscripted press questions seems to be one of the most important things to you.


Like him or not Trump faced the press so I am good with that...speech-wise he was average...even though I thought Obama was full of BS much of the time he knew how to deliver a speech and project leadership.

 
I stopped reading at this point.  Where do you get your information from?  No matter how well Biden did, it would not matter to someone that refuses to see reality.  
Just for the record: his second claim, that illegal immigration is going to cost us billions, is almost as false as his first.  

 
I stopped reading at this point.  Where do you get your information from?  No matter how well Biden did, it would not matter to someone that refuses to see reality.  


I'm generally not one for purity tests.

But to clarify this, you've previously outed yourself as not living in the United States.

If that's the case, are you going to be across the pond or wherever you are in the world, and tell an American citizen what he is or is not seeing at the gas pump and grocery stores and the rising costs of all the goods and services here in America?

A viewpoint of the "economy in tatters" can be true and not true to some people based on their experiences and perspectives. Gail Miller had to sell the Utah Jazz in the NBA. Her fortune, from her deceased husband, was based quite a bit on movie theater chains. Which took some massive blows during the pandemic. Mickey Arison, who owns the Heat, took massive losses through the cruise line industry. Vivek Ranadive who owns the Sacramento Kings is more in the technology realm and was more insulated from the pandemic. Joe Tsai who owns the New Jersey Nets has deep ties to the CCP and naturally profited from NBA China's growth, but worldwide tensions against China in the sports world now plus push back over big brands like Nike and the Uighur genocide has created a push/pull effect with his profit line.

If you work for Zoom or Peloton (well earlier) then the pandemic was sort of a boom. If you worked in a gym or owned Cross Fit box, how differently would that work out?

People don't see "your reality", but that doesn't change "their reality"

So if it's the case that you aren't living here in the United States and are not paying into our Medicare system, our tax system, our property taxes, your children aren't in school here and don't/can't vote here, then what is the baseline for "your reality" on the American economy?

 
Biden is doing a horrible job.  The economy is in tatters.  Illegal immigration is exploding which is going to cost taxpayers billions.  Covid is getting worse due to his admins assumption that the virus was fading away a few months ago.   The worst part is Biden is still dividing the country using race and wealth.   Things are going to go from bad to worse over the next 3 years.  Would like to hear that I’m wrong.   
S&P literally closed at an all time high yesterday.  Consensus GDP growth forecasts that 2021 will end up ~ 5.5%.  6 million jobs added this year alone. 

“Economy in tatters.”   You’re 100% wrong. So wrong that you should question the sources that led you to such erroneous priors. 

 
Biden has been surprisingly better than I expected. I’m frustrated by some decisions, and approve of others.  But overall I’m happy to see a government being run by experts in their fields as opposed to family members, con men, and Fox News hosts. People are policy, and I sleep much better knowing that the heads of our govt are in general informed, experienced, and rational.  That was not the case prior to January 21st.  

 
Biden has been surprisingly better than I expected. I’m frustrated by some decisions, and approve of others.  But overall I’m happy to see a government being run by experts in their fields as opposed to family members, con men, and Fox News hosts. People are policy, and I sleep much better knowing that the heads of our govt are in general informed, experienced, and rational.  That was not the case prior to January 21st.  
Great to read your posts, Tommy! You’ve been sorely missed. 

 
This is simply not true. 

1. Infrastructure bill. 
2. 6 million new jobs. 
3. Major reduction in child poverty. 
4. Vaccine distribution. 

I could go on and on. There are plenty of positives. You can argue that the negatives outweigh them, and indeed you and I are going to disagree about exactly what defines a negative in the first place. 
But stop using phrases like “by no reasonable measure”. 
Job satisfaction is based on an all-in assessment.  The country is worse off than it was in 1/1.  And the polls agree with me.

 
Job satisfaction is based on an all-in assessment.  The country is worse off than it was in 1/1.  And the polls agree with me.
I have no doubt that overall the American public is misinformed about how well the economy is currently functioning.  Why do you think opinion polls are more indicative of economic performance than actual economic data?

 
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I have no doubt that overall the American public is misinformed about how well the economy is currently functioning.  Why do you think opinion polls are more indicative of economic performance than actual economic data?
You think the economy is doing well?  Inflation is  the worst it’s been since the 70’s. 

 
You think the economy is doing well?  Inflation is  the worst it’s been since the 70’s. 
It doesn’t matter what they think. This is all that matters -

Economic Confidence Index down to -33, lowest since April 2020

29% name an economic issue as most important U.S. problem

Satisfaction with direction of U.S. is 21%, lowest since January

Gallup

 
It doesn’t matter what they think. This is all that matters -

Economic Confidence Index down to -33, lowest since April 2020

29% name an economic issue as most important U.S. problem

Satisfaction with direction of U.S. is 21%, lowest since January

Gallup


It's funny how the two parties seem to be flip-flopping in certain areas...one is that the dems are becoming more and more the party of the wealthy (which was always associated with the GOP) so it appears what effects the middle-class (where the GOP appears to be getting stronger) seems to be not as big of a concern.

 
It doesn’t matter what they think. This is all that matters -

Economic Confidence Index down to -33, lowest since April 2020

29% name an economic issue as most important U.S. problem

Satisfaction with direction of U.S. is 21%, lowest since January

Gallup
Polling is all that matters now?

I think the full on economic numbers matter more than polling.  In terms of elections...no.  But then again, the election is still a year away for midterms and 3 years away for POTUS.  

 
Hope you are well my friend. 

Looks like Katie Porter may be in some trouble due to redistributing. Hope you and yours do your part to keep her in Congress!
I live in Huntington Beach. My congresswoman is Michelle Steel. She’s a real piece of work: she removed her daughter from UC Santa Clara because the teachers were brainwashing her. The form of the brainwash? Her daughter announced support for same sex marriage. The horror! 
I’d love to get rid of her, get Harley Rouda back. But this town seems to get more red every day so I don’t know…

 
But Trump was effective at getting his judges in. So, apparently is Biden. Both have been far better than Obama or Bush. 
Isn't this really as simple as whether the Senate is the same party as POTUS?  When the Senate is the same party, nominations go through quickly, when it isn't, they don't.

 
I don't think there's a single thing that Biden could do that would make me check the "Approve" box. Sorry, not happening. I will concede that it's refreshing to not have to wake up to a new social media scandal every other morning, but I suspect that is partly due to the way the media covers Biden compared to how it covers Trump.

 
It's funny how the two parties seem to be flip-flopping in certain areas...one is that the dems are becoming more and more the party of the wealthy (which was always associated with the GOP) so it appears what effects the middle-class (where the GOP appears to be getting stronger) seems to be not as big of a concern.
I think it's less wealthy and poor, but more educated/urban and uneducated/rural. And 'uneducated' isn't derogatory - not everyone should pursue education beyond high school.

 
I think it's less wealthy and poor, but more educated/urban and uneducated/rural. And 'uneducated' isn't derogatory - not everyone should pursue education beyond high school.


I think it is both...and I don't think it is a surprise when you see what the political leanings of of the vast majority college professors and administrations are.

 
It doesn’t matter what they think. This is all that matters -

Economic Confidence Index down to -33, lowest since April 2020

29% name an economic issue as most important U.S. problem

Satisfaction with direction of U.S. is 21%, lowest since January

Gallup
If Biden went around claiming 'best economy in the last 100 years' on a continual basis, and the talking heads at his state-run media center did the same, then maybe the polling would be different.

Personally I prefer to look at stats themselves or to listen to expert economists.

 
I'm generally not one for purity tests.

But to clarify this, you've previously outed yourself as not living in the United States.

If that's the case, are you going to be across the pond or wherever you are in the world, and tell an American citizen what he is or is not seeing at the gas pump and grocery stores and the rising costs of all the goods and services here in America?
Hi Gordon.  Do you think this inflation bubble is only occurring in the US?  It's happening everywhere.  Gas and groceries have risen everywhere (and not just a little).  Despite this, the economy is booming in the US.  It seems that people choose to measure the health of the economy based on different factors (depending who is in office).  During Trump's term it was based on the stock market and to a lesser degree economic growth.  Those same people do not bother looking at the stock market now and just cry inflation.  This is despite one of the biggest economic growth years in a long time.

 
Biden will be great for Republicans in 2022.  Inflation is so high though this year it will drop significantly in 2022 by default, which will ease prices by next fall and make the voting somewhat closer.   

 

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