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14 Killed in Shooting in San Bernardino (1 Viewer)

Dickies said:
Ministry of Pain said:
AnonymousBob said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Jayrod said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Let's get back to these 14 victims, 17 others wounded trying to pull through and also it still seems premature to lump this into global terrorism. The more we learn the more it seems like the jihadist factor wasn't the actual back story. It might have been an obvious trigger point but it seems like this individual might have had some serious mental problems long before he began to possibly worship ISIS.

I do agree with the notion that others have presented that we don't want to run around demonizing Muslims, if I portrayed that idea in any way I do apologize. That said, we need to be honest about the majority of the folks carrying out the attacks. If we had lifelong Americans who were Christians and suddenly switching religions and carrying out terrorist acts then we might have some reason to not be as profiling as we are. When Shirley the Soccer Mom comes walking into the Publix strapped with a suicide vest loaded with explosives a handful of times...then maybe I will start profiling them more.
:lmao: Way to focus on the victims for half a sentence.
:lmao:

He exhibits less focus than my 9 year old son.
FTR: I believe it's important to focus in on the mental health angle than the terrorist link. This will not be nor has it been an isolated incident. I think mentally unstable folks to begin with are going to find ISIS or the jihadist brand potentially appealing to launch some of their sick twisted ideas into action. So in one sense you can say I have short attention span I can't argue with you there, most of my friends will tell you I listen to the first few seconds and then fill in the blanks form there based on my life lessons. That might not be right but its gotten me pretty far in life I would say.

Cast iron cookware accept no substitutes...or I can listen to every pitchman that comes down the pike and tries to convince me that whatever the new latest and greatest is better so I spend hours of my time and money trying it and then learn just like the other 99 inferior products before it that I shouldn't have even wasted my time to begin with or I could learn a real lesson here and have cut this person off to begin with and just said no thanks I know better.

You see we have forgotten to teach our young folks that there really are some things in life that are real like Newton's Law of Gravity. We don't need to keep debating it, we know it happens and is working, we can see it right in front of us. But we now teach youngsters to constantly question themselves and look for some answer that either doesn't exist or is sitting right in front of us. I instill in my students to think for themselves and not allow themselves to be easily persuaded by those that don't have their(students) best interests.
This is terrible logic.
You can feel that way but I have limited time on this Earth. You can find a crust of bread in a trash dump, doesn't make it a good place to look for a meal. I cut folks off when I think I have heard enough. Why listen to them ramble when you know the talking point they are getting to. And that is what is frustrating at times with different folks. I have a lot of close friends who know to get to the point quickly or else I will do it for them...

Children love to do this to me as a teacher...they start whipping up a good story and I'll say "Is all this so you can go to the bathroom?"...and then they start hemming and hawing and "Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll" OK so let's just cut the shenanigans and get to the point. "I told you when you finish that math problem you are working on you can go." I'm using basic examples but you get the idea. I don't need to hear anything else from a Catholic Priest the rest of my life. I studied it all, grew up in the church, understand the message, I'm good and I reject most of it. I don't need a fresh look at the material is what I'm saying.
These may be the 3 most incoherent posts made in a row. I've read them all multiple times and have no idea WTF you are talking about.
They actually are very similar and make a lot of sense if you reread them. The theme is bottom line, spare me the labor show me the baby, time is money, it's easy to connect the dots here. I am simply saying for better or for worse I have reached a point where I don't need a positive review or pat on the head for everything I plan on doing or purchasing in life if I need to widen this to the slightly silly. You see these people read all the fake reviews and a few real ones over at Amazon trying to figure out if they really want to gamble on purchasing it thru the mail...it's SO HARD!!!

I'm simply saying make a decision and move forward, don't second guess everything all the time. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% of how you react to it. Most people can't likely do much to change the outcome once they are trapped in a building with armed gunman however they do say the 1st 5 seconds and the reaction of the folks is critical. If you think cooperating with folks armed with automatic weapons and body armor that doesn't say P-O-L-I-C-E across the front and back of it is a good idea, you might want to rethink it or read up what seems to be happening to folks in these situations but cooperation or giving them your wallet does not seem to be a viable option so that leaves running for your life, hiding and praying, or finally returning fire which I think would definitely put a dent in the amount of damage these folks can inflict.

These 2 pieces of dog excrement knew there would be little to no armed security that could return fire, they were cowards to the very end.

 
Revealed: Brother of San Bernardino gunman is a decorated Navy veteran honored for his role in the war on terror

  • Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, was named as the heavily armed gunman who massacred 14 at a conference center on Wednesday morning
  • But his brother Syed Raheel Farook served in the Navy for four years
  • The married father served as an information systems technician on the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise
  • His awards include the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal and Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345337/Brother-San-Bernardino-gunman-decorated-Navy-veteran-honored-role-war-terror.html
One out of two ain't bad. That's half.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Someone knows the selection committee is in full gear, determining seeds
I would be lucky to get an invite to the play in game. It's like being voted into the All Star game but you haven't even played an inning all season :D

Hope all is well in the Midwest, Limpy.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Someone knows the selection committee is in full gear, determining seeds
I would be lucky to get an invite to the play in game. It's like being voted into the All Star game but you haven't even played an inning all season :D Hope all is well in the Midwest, Limpy.
GBMOP,

If they let Magic Johnson play in the '92 All Star Game, they can find a place for you.

And all is well. Hope the same with you.

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
Who took the peace side?

 
The polls are going to be really interesting next week. Hillary has decisively stated that more gun control is the answer. Cruz has decisively said Americans must be armed. I don't know which way the public will go but they've got some amazingly clear choices here.

 
The polls are going to be really interesting next week. Hillary has decisively stated that more gun control is the answer. Cruz has decisively said Americans must be armed. I don't know which way the public will go but they've got some amazingly clear choices here.
The difference between the two is that Cruz will make no attempt to pander to the moderates.

 
gun control crowd: more gun control won't stop these events but will make them less frequent because it will be harder for them to get guns.

gun rights crowd: more gun control won't stop these events and won't even make them less frequent because people will start making their own guns with 3D printers. More gun control will only accelerate the process of criminals learning how to print their own guns. If you can't take the guns away, you might as well make sure Americans can arm themselves.

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
If these two people were terrorists, maybe not even assigned a mission, target, or timeframe yet, but were willing to sacrifice their grand plan over a petty argument with a coworker, it just adds fuel to the fire they got their freshman team working American soil.9/11 changed the way we live; that was the 1980 American Hockey Miracle on Ice for Muslism terrorism. This just reinforces that on a strategic level, they're back to the stone-age on American soil. The biggest threat terrorist groups are is most likely to our soldiers deployed to the countries they operate in.
Maybe Wednesdays attack was the Columbine for radical Muslims and it becomes more frequent moving forward. :shrug:

Regardless, I still feel I have a better chance at winning the Powerball than I do at being a victim of a mass shooting. I don't plan my day around winning millions, and I won't plan my day around being shot at.

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
If these two people were terrorists, maybe not even assigned a mission, target, or timeframe yet, but were willing to sacrifice their grand plan over a petty argument with a coworker, it just adds fuel to the fire they got their freshman team working American soil.9/11 changed the way we live; that was the 1980 American Hockey Miracle on Ice for Muslism terrorism. This just reinforces that on a strategic level, they're back to the stone-age on American soil. The biggest threat terrorist groups are is most likely to our soldiers deployed to the countries they operate in.
Maybe Wednesdays attack was the Columbine for radical Muslims and it becomes more frequent moving forward. :shrug:

Regardless, I still feel I have a better chance at winning the Powerball than I do at being a victim of a mass shooting. I don't plan my day around winning millions, and I won't plan my day around being shot at.
It's a great sentiment. Bald Eagles and American Pride and Freedom and all that.

Except at some point maybe it does have an impact on how you live your life. We're now confronting mass attacks on, what, a monthly basis? What if it's weekly? Would that impact you? What if it becomes daily attacks? That change anything? Pretty soon you wake up one day and you find yourself living in Beirut.

 
I'll show you it's a religion of peace. I will blow your head off! Q.E.D.
Sheesh.

Nothing like winning your argument about how your religion is a religion of Peace by grabbing your guns and thousands of rounds of ammo along with all of your homemade bombs and killing the person you were arguing with.

At the same time, I have some friends that are stubborn enough that as the guy pointed a gun at their face, they would have a smile because they knew it meant that they had "won" the argument.

 
His ego is so big he can't admit he simply conflated seeing people in the west bank celebrate after 9/11 with something else.
I would like to get back on topic but for the record I was 27 yrs old when 9/11 happened and I remember one of the news outlets and for whatever reason I will say Fox News showed groups of folks in Palestine on the West Bank cheering when they heard America was attacked. I'm not sure why this would be hard to believe and I didn't know Trump was being called on the carpet over it. Was Fox News incorrect in their footage they showed on the air? Absolutley possible but I also remember media outlets running video of Muslims cheering right after 9/11. This country was about 85% go get those mofo bleepholes whatever the cost. Now things are different and even if a terrorist attack perpetrated by ISIS were to happen here in America I'm not so sure everyone would still be so eager to send young men overseas.
Yes, they showed people in the west bank cheering. I remember it. I specifically remember and old woman cheering and thinking what the hell is wrong with her. Trump is saying what he saw, the groups of people cheering, happened in New Jersey. It didn't.
A local radio show had a guy call in, maybe a Minneapolis cop. It was a long time ago, I can't be sure. But he said that night a known local hoodlum was arrested for pulling a gun on a group of middle easterners having a 9/11 celebration. At a house in North Mpls. Sure, the definition of anecdotal, so take it with a grainassault.Not that I need this disclaimer, since I give no f**** what most of you think. But I'm a Hillary supporter this election and think Trump is a buffoon.

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
If these two people were terrorists, maybe not even assigned a mission, target, or timeframe yet, but were willing to sacrifice their grand plan over a petty argument with a coworker, it just adds fuel to the fire they got their freshman team working American soil.9/11 changed the way we live; that was the 1980 American Hockey Miracle on Ice for Muslism terrorism. This just reinforces that on a strategic level, they're back to the stone-age on American soil. The biggest threat terrorist groups are is most likely to our soldiers deployed to the countries they operate in.
Maybe Wednesdays attack was the Columbine for radical Muslims and it becomes more frequent moving forward. :shrug:

Regardless, I still feel I have a better chance at winning the Powerball than I do at being a victim of a mass shooting. I don't plan my day around winning millions, and I won't plan my day around being shot at.
It's a great sentiment. Bald Eagles and American Pride and Freedom and all that.

Except at some point maybe it does have an impact on how you live your life. We're now confronting mass attacks on, what, a monthly basis? What if it's weekly? Would that impact you? What if it becomes daily attacks? That change anything? Pretty soon you wake up one day and you find yourself living in Beirut.
new otis is kinda funny.

 
His ego is so big he can't admit he simply conflated seeing people in the west bank celebrate after 9/11 with something else.
I would like to get back on topic but for the record I was 27 yrs old when 9/11 happened and I remember one of the news outlets and for whatever reason I will say Fox News showed groups of folks in Palestine on the West Bank cheering when they heard America was attacked. I'm not sure why this would be hard to believe and I didn't know Trump was being called on the carpet over it. Was Fox News incorrect in their footage they showed on the air? Absolutley possible but I also remember media outlets running video of Muslims cheering right after 9/11. This country was about 85% go get those mofo bleepholes whatever the cost. Now things are different and even if a terrorist attack perpetrated by ISIS were to happen here in America I'm not so sure everyone would still be so eager to send young men overseas.
Yes, they showed people in the west bank cheering. I remember it. I specifically remember and old woman cheering and thinking what the hell is wrong with her. Trump is saying what he saw, the groups of people cheering, happened in New Jersey. It didn't.
A local radio show had a guy call in, maybe a Minneapolis cop. It was a long time ago, I can't be sure. But he said that night a known local hoodlum was arrested for pulling a gun on a group of middle easterners having a 9/11 celebration. At a house in North Mpls. Sure, the definition of anecdotal, so take it with a grainassault.Not that I need this disclaimer, since I give no f**** what most of you think. But I'm a Hillary supporter this election and think Trump is a buffoon.
Really hoping "grainassault" catches on in this doggy dog world of ours.

 
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Really hoping "grainassault" catches on in this doggy dog world of ours.

Thank FBG for that one. Outside of this board, you get some odd looks when saying this.

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
If these two people were terrorists, maybe not even assigned a mission, target, or timeframe yet, but were willing to sacrifice their grand plan over a petty argument with a coworker, it just adds fuel to the fire they got their freshman team working American soil.9/11 changed the way we live; that was the 1980 American Hockey Miracle on Ice for Muslism terrorism. This just reinforces that on a strategic level, they're back to the stone-age on American soil. The biggest threat terrorist groups are is most likely to our soldiers deployed to the countries they operate in.
Maybe Wednesdays attack was the Columbine for radical Muslims and it becomes more frequent moving forward. :shrug:

Regardless, I still feel I have a better chance at winning the Powerball than I do at being a victim of a mass shooting. I don't plan my day around winning millions, and I won't plan my day around being shot at.
It's a great sentiment. Bald Eagles and American Pride and Freedom and all that.

Except at some point maybe it does have an impact on how you live your life. We're now confronting mass attacks on, what, a monthly basis? What if it's weekly? Would that impact you? What if it becomes daily attacks? That change anything? Pretty soon you wake up one day and you find yourself living in Beirut.
It's already daily. HTH

 
His ego is so big he can't admit he simply conflated seeing people in the west bank celebrate after 9/11 with something else.
I would like to get back on topic but for the record I was 27 yrs old when 9/11 happened and I remember one of the news outlets and for whatever reason I will say Fox News showed groups of folks in Palestine on the West Bank cheering when they heard America was attacked. I'm not sure why this would be hard to believe and I didn't know Trump was being called on the carpet over it. Was Fox News incorrect in their footage they showed on the air? Absolutley possible but I also remember media outlets running video of Muslims cheering right after 9/11. This country was about 85% go get those mofo bleepholes whatever the cost. Now things are different and even if a terrorist attack perpetrated by ISIS were to happen here in America I'm not so sure everyone would still be so eager to send young men overseas.
Yes, they showed people in the west bank cheering. I remember it. I specifically remember and old woman cheering and thinking what the hell is wrong with her. Trump is saying what he saw, the groups of people cheering, happened in New Jersey. It didn't.
A local radio show had a guy call in, maybe a Minneapolis cop. It was a long time ago, I can't be sure. But he said that night a known local hoodlum was arrested for pulling a gun on a group of middle easterners having a 9/11 celebration. At a house in North Mpls. Sure, the definition of anecdotal, so take it with a grainassault.Not that I need this disclaimer, since I give no f**** what most of you think. But I'm a Hillary supporter this election and think Trump is a buffoon.
Really hoping "grainassault" catches on in this doggy dog world of ours.
"grainassault"...It's a Midwest thing, you wouldn't understand...
 
gun control crowd: more gun control won't stop these events but will make them less frequent because it will be harder for them to get guns.

gun rights crowd: more gun control won't stop these events and won't even make them less frequent because people will start making their own guns with 3D printers. More gun control will only accelerate the process of criminals learning how to print their own guns. If you can't take the guns away, you might as well make sure Americans can arm themselves.
I'm already working on my 3D printed Iron Man suit to stay one step ahead of the terrorists.

 
gun control crowd: more gun control won't stop these events but will make them less frequent because it will be harder for them to get guns.

gun rights crowd: more gun control won't stop these events and won't even make them less frequent because people will start making their own guns with 3D printers. More gun control will only accelerate the process of criminals learning how to print their own guns. If you can't take the guns away, you might as well make sure Americans can arm themselves.
I'm already working on my 3D printed Iron Man suit to stay one step ahead of the terrorists.
I've been 3D printing clones of myself so that I can build an army to combat the terrorists and zombies and whatnots.

 
Just to add some anecdotal commentary. My father in law is on the "no fly" list. Well not him personally, but his name is. Very generic common American name - think Tom Jones. He has a hell of a time whenever he goes to the airport.

So yea...

 
Just to add some anecdotal commentary. My father in law is on the "no fly" list. Well not him personally, but his name is. Very generic common American name - think Tom Jones. He has a hell of a time whenever he goes to the airport.

So yea...
Everyone knows Tom Jones is Welsh

 
Just to add some anecdotal commentary. My father in law is on the "no fly" list. Well not him personally, but his name is. Very generic common American name - think Tom Jones. He has a hell of a time whenever he goes to the airport.

So yea...
**** Johnson?

 
1. The targeted individuals were co-workers of the man. That's not very random. Okay, maybe I'm an extra 1% more vigilant about my coworkers behavior for the next couple weeks till I forget all about it.
Just saw on TV that the shooter got into a heated argument with a devout Christian co-worker about whether Islam was a religion of peace. That co-worker was among the 14 killed. One wonders if the target changed, given the vast array of guns and explosives found.
If these two people were terrorists, maybe not even assigned a mission, target, or timeframe yet, but were willing to sacrifice their grand plan over a petty argument with a coworker, it just adds fuel to the fire they got their freshman team working American soil.9/11 changed the way we live; that was the 1980 American Hockey Miracle on Ice for Muslism terrorism. This just reinforces that on a strategic level, they're back to the stone-age on American soil. The biggest threat terrorist groups are is most likely to our soldiers deployed to the countries they operate in.
Maybe Wednesdays attack was the Columbine for radical Muslims and it becomes more frequent moving forward. :shrug: Regardless, I still feel I have a better chance at winning the Powerball than I do at being a victim of a mass shooting. I don't plan my day around winning millions, and I won't plan my day around being shot at.
It's a great sentiment. Bald Eagles and American Pride and Freedom and all that.

Except at some point maybe it does have an impact on how you live your life. We're now confronting mass attacks on, what, a monthly basis? What if it's weekly? Would that impact you? What if it becomes daily attacks? That change anything? Pretty soon you wake up one day and you find yourself living in Beirut.
326,232,874 people currently living in the US.

I'm no statistician but I think a mass shooting directly affecting me is very low.

(Obviously, these mass shootings are horrible and I don't want to see them continue but you get my point.)

 
So wait, did Obama say in an interview on Tuesday that Isis was not a threat to us over here?

If that's accurate, and combined with the JV comment the day before Paris, he is having a real rough stretch here. Maybe he should just shut up for awhile.

 
What is CNN doing? It goes against Obama's agenda. Gun control. Gun control would have prevented this. Back on task.
To be fair, gun control could make the ISIS problem a lot worse in the US. It would be hard for ISIS to get weapons from the middle east to the US if there were few guns here. Of course that's not something they need to worry with because it appears that half of the people in this country have armories in their basements for some reason.

 
So wait, did Obama say in an interview on Tuesday that Isis was not a threat to us over here?

If that's accurate, and combined with the JV comment the day before Paris, he is having a real rough stretch here. Maybe he should just shut up for awhile.
great post

 
So wait, did Obama say in an interview on Tuesday that Isis was not a threat to us over here?

If that's accurate, and combined with the JV comment the day before Paris, he is having a real rough stretch here. Maybe he should just shut up for awhile.
To be fair, Obama said we were safe, in regards to an ISIS attack, after this happened.

:mellow:
Hate to agree with the Grand Wizard here, but yesterday's comments were ill-timed and will likely be historically stupid.

 
What is CNN doing? It goes against Obama's agenda. Gun control. Gun control would have prevented this. Back on task.
To be fair, gun control could make the ISIS problem a lot worse in the US. It would be hard for ISIS to get weapons from the middle east to the US if there were few guns here. Of course that's not something they need to worry with because it appears that half of the people in this country have armories in their basements for some reason.
Unless you have the ability to get rid of all guns in this country, increased background checks, limited round capacity mags, ban on assult weapons (old ones grandfathered in) will change nothing. California has some of the strictest gun control laws and apparently he got the weapon legally (still waiting on full confirmation). California requires a background check for private sales. If that was done, what else do you propose for gun control besides eliminating them?

 
What is CNN doing? It goes against Obama's agenda. Gun control. Gun control would have prevented this. Back on task.
To be fair, gun control could make the ISIS problem a lot worse in the US. It would be hard for ISIS to get weapons from the middle east to the US if there were few guns here. Of course that's not something they need to worry with because it appears that half of the people in this country have armories in their basements for some reason.
Unless you have the ability to get rid of all guns in this country, increased background checks, limited round capacity mags, ban on assult weapons (old ones grandfathered in) will change nothing. California has some of the strictest gun control laws and apparently he got the weapon legally (still waiting on full confirmation). California requires a background check for private sales. If that was done, what else do you propose for gun control besides eliminating them?
I'm not saying there is a political solution.

 
So wait, did Obama say in an interview on Tuesday that Isis was not a threat to us over here?

If that's accurate, and combined with the JV comment the day before Paris, he is having a real rough stretch here. Maybe he should just shut up for awhile.
Not going to happen. He's a true believer. You can throw all the evidence in the world at people like that and they will still yell at you until they are red in the face about racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. A little thing like reality is not going to stand in the way of their multicultural utopia. Just remove all references about Islamic extremism and jihadism from textbooks and law enforcement and we'll all be just fine. What's a few lives here and there, right?

 
"pledged loyalty to ISIS"... makes for easy conclusion jumping.

but also from the same CNN article:

A law enforcement official said it appeared that Wednesday's attack -- which left 14 people dead and 21 wounded before the two attackers, Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, were killed in a shootout with police -- may have been inspired by ISIS. But none of the officials said that ISIS directed or ordered the attack.

"This is looking more and more like self-radicalization," a law enforcement official said.

Another official said authorities haven't ruled out that others may have influenced this radical view. In addition, the law enforcement source said investigators have a greater focus on whether the shooting occurred after a workplace issue with religion.
 
What is CNN doing? It goes against Obama's agenda. Gun control. Gun control would have prevented this. Back on task.
To be fair, gun control could make the ISIS problem a lot worse in the US. It would be hard for ISIS to get weapons from the middle east to the US if there were few guns here. Of course that's not something they need to worry with because it appears that half of the people in this country have armories in their basements for some reason.
Unless you have the ability to get rid of all guns in this country, increased background checks, limited round capacity mags, ban on assult weapons (old ones grandfathered in) will change nothing. California has some of the strictest gun control laws and apparently he got the weapon legally (still waiting on full confirmation). California requires a background check for private sales. If that was done, what else do you propose for gun control besides eliminating them?
How about if we try to expand background checks and try to prevent people on the terror watch list from purchasing firearms? Maybe it wouldn't have stopped this attack (although it's possible someone on the list purchased some of the weapons for him). But it could help prevent similar attacks in the future, or reduce the firepower available to the terrorist.

Oh, wait- we did try that. The Republicans voted it down last night.

 

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