2 QB Leagues Rankings/Advice/ADP/Etc. (1 Viewer)

[DaddyFatSacks]

I commish a league and were switching from 1 QB to 2 QB's this year. This is a 10 team league with these starting requirements 2QB/3WR/2RB/1WRRBFLEX/1TE/1K/1DEF. That's enough about my league, as I want to make this thread more about 2QB's than anyone one league. I'm looking for rankings, ADP, draft strategy and general QB talk.

My feeling heading into my draft is that I am waiting to the early mid rounds (6-7) to draft my first QB, I would be happy with Kitna/Rivers/Romo as my first QB. I will of course be looking for value but I just feel that once you get past Manning/Palmer you have got a log jam of QB's not seperated by many fantasy points.

What are the general FBG's thoughts on 2QB's this year?

 

[-jb-]

if you run the VBD or DD tool (not sure if you're a subscriber), you'll notice a HUGE jump in QB value. if you use DD, and compare the rankings of QBs in a start 1 vs. start 2 format, you'll see Manning, Palmer and Brady go from being ranked 12, 30 & 31 to 3, 14 & 15...respectively. It would be helpful to understand what your league members thought. this might help you strategize on how long you can wait to pick one up. ultimately, though, it makes sense to get a good one.

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

if you run the VBD or DD tool (not sure if you're a subscriber), you'll notice a HUGE jump in QB value. if you use DD, and compare the rankings of QBs in a start 1 vs. start 2 format, you'll see Manning, Palmer and Brady go from being ranked 12, 30 & 31 to 3, 14 & 15...respectively. It would be helpful to understand what your league members thought. this might help you strategize on how long you can wait to pick one up. ultimately, though, it makes sense to get a good one.

I'm a subscriber and haven't downloaded DD and VBD yet, but will soon. I'm not exaclty sure how the other guys are going to value QB's this year as this is the first year we have had 2QB's. My hunch is that they will be drafting QB's early though. I think that may be more of a reason to wait a little, by avoiding the QB run you can find excellent value at RB and WR.

 

[whoiskb]

I did my first 2QB league last year and had a rough year because of the QB's that I drafted. You still put a premium on getting RB depth, but now that same rule applies to the QB so I wouldn't wait too long on QB's

Here are the first 5 rounds of our draft from last year, just a reference.

Pick Pos Player

1.01 RB1 Larry Johnson

1.02 RB3 Shaun Alexander

1.03 RB2 LaDainian Tomlinson

1.04 RB4 Tiki Barber

1.05 QB1 Peyton Manning

1.06 RB8 Cadillac Williams

1.07 RB5 Steven Jackson

1.08 RB6 Rudi Johnson

1.09 RB7 Ronnie Brown

1.10 QB2 Tom Brady

2.01 RB12 Edgerrin James

2.02 RB13 Clinton Portis

2.03 RB10 LaMont Jordan

2.04 QB4 Matt Hasselbeck

2.05 QB19 Brett Favre

2.06 RB9 Willis McGahee

2.07 RB15 Reggie Bush

2.08 QB3 Carson Palmer

2.09 QB7 Donovan McNabb

2.10 QB11 Eli Manning

3.01 QB10 Trent Green

3.02 RB81 Domanick Davis

3.03 RB16 Brian Westbrook

3.04 QB5 Jake Delhomme

3.05 RB14 Warrick Dunn

3.06 RB20 Frank Gore

3.07 WR2 Steve Smith

3.08 QB9 Aaron Brooks

3.09 RB11 Willie Parker

3.10 QB84 Drew Bledsoe

4.01 WR4 Torry Holt

4.02 QB8 Marc Bulger

4.03 WR11 Terrell Owens

4.04 WR1 Chad Johnson

4.05 WR10 Chris Chambers

4.06 WR9 Marvin Harrison

4.07 QB20 Ben Roethlisberger

4.08 WR3 Randy Moss

4.09 WR5 Larry Fitzgerald

4.10 WR8 Anquan Boldin

5.01 TE3 Jeremy Shockey

5.02 WR17 Hines Ward

5.03 QB6 Daunte Culpepper

5.04 WR70 Antwaan Randle El

5.05 WR224 Santana Moss

5.06 WR163 Plaxico Burress

5.07 RB17 Kevin Jones

5.08 QB13 Jake Plummer

5.09 TE1 Antonio Gates

5.10 WR7 Reggie Wayne

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

I did my first 2QB league last year and had a rough year because of the QB's that I drafted. You still put a premium on getting RB depth, but now that same rule applies to the QB so I wouldn't wait too long on QB'sHere are the first 5 rounds of our draft from last year, just a reference.

Wow alot more QB's taken in the first 5 rounds than I would expect. Maybe I need to rethink my initial strategy. I have the 2nd pick and I was thinking of going RB/WR/RB might have to change that to RB/WR/QB depending on whats available.

 

[BoomBoom]

I did my first 2QB league last year and had a rough year because of the QB's that I drafted. You still put a premium on getting RB depth, but now that same rule applies to the QB so I wouldn't wait too long on QB'sHere are the first 5 rounds of our draft from last year, just a reference.

Wow alot more QB's taken in the first 5 rounds than I would expect. Maybe I need to rethink my initial strategy. I have the 2nd pick and I was thinking of going RB/WR/RB might have to change that to RB/WR/QB depending on whats available.

Might even just go RB/QB/WR to get the QB you want since it's likely the guy picking 1st might go LT/QB with one of his 2 picks. There are probably plenty of receivers you'd be okay with, maybe not so many QB's.

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

Does any one have ADP for 2QB's?

 

[Chaka]

I must make this post twice a year. I have been in a 12 team, start 2QB league for 12 years now, and I have been keeping statistics on draft trends for the past five seasons. Here is how our draft typically breaks down. (Note we are required to roster 3 QBs minimum with a max of 4)

Round 1: 3 QBs - in 2002 my league went insane and 7 QBs were taken in the first, since then the average is 3

Round 2: 4 more QBs usually come off the board

Round 3: 5 QBs are usually drafted

Round 4: 6 QBs are drafted

Round 5 & 6: 5 QBs each round are drafted on average.

The last NFL starting QB comes off the board by the end of the 8th or 9th round, at the latest.

I love having data on my league drafting trends, it makes predicting position runs much easier.

A note on strategy in these type of leagues: It is not a bad idea to draft your #3 QB a little earlier than your league mates. Having a legitimate 3rd QB (Jason Campbell, JP Losman or Steve McNair etc.) with the potential to play like a #2 QB will lead to many trade opportunities throughout the season. QBs gain value during the season due to attrition and injury at the position. So instead of drafting a questionable #3 RB in round 6 (Julius Jones, Brandon Jackson etc) I will often take the QB because it can lead to a trade for a legitimate #2 RB later in the season. Jason Campbell for Ahman Green doesn't seem like a good trade now but by week 6 when the guy with Ahman is facing the prospect of starting Cleo Lemon, DJ Shockley or Brodie Coyle for a few weeks Jason Campbell sounds much more palatable.

 

[smackdaddies]

I must make this post twice a year. I have been in a 12 team, start 2QB league for 12 years now, and I have been keeping statistics on draft trends for the past five seasons. Here is how our draft typically breaks down. (Note we are required to roster 3 QBs minimum with a max of 4)Round 1: 3 QBs - in 2002 my league went insane and 7 QBs were taken in the first, since then the average is 3Round 2: 4 more QBs usually come off the boardRound 3: 5 QBs are usually draftedRound 4: 6 QBs are draftedRound 5 & 6: 5 QBs each round are drafted on average.The last NFL starting QB comes off the board by the end of the 8th or 9th round, at the latest.I love having data on my league drafting trends, it makes predicting position runs much easier.A note on strategy in these type of leagues: It is not a bad idea to draft your #3 QB a little earlier than your league mates. Having a legitimate 3rd QB (Jason Campbell, JP Losman or Steve McNair etc.) with the potential to play like a #2 QB will lead to many trade opportunities throughout the season. QBs gain value during the season due to attrition and injury at the position. So instead of drafting a questionable #3 RB in round 6 (Julius Jones, Brandon Jackson etc) I will often take the QB because it can lead to a trade for a legitimate #2 RB later in the season. Jason Campbell for Ahman Green doesn't seem like a good trade now but by week 6 when the guy with Ahman is facing the prospect of starting Cleo Lemon, DJ Shockley or Brodie Coyle for a few weeks Jason Campbell sounds much more palatable.

I have played in a start 2 qb leauge for 7 years (redraft, no ppr, varies from 10 to 12 teams) and agree with the above post. I typically end up going qb in R3 and R4, although have taken PM in R1 when drafting pick 10 or later. I will sometimes go #3 qb early, in particular if I see that one or more of my competition has not picked up their #2 qb yet and the qb pool is getting thin

 

[Godsbrother]

Our is a 1 QB league where you can start another QB as flex. Typically 2 QBs will go in the 1st round and then a run will occur in the 2nd. By the 5th round nearly everyone will have 2 QBs and a few may already have their 3rd.

Here is what I expect

(note: Cutler, Leinart, Pennington, Romo and Young are all keepers and won't be in the draft):

1st round: P. Manning, Palmer

2nd Round: Brees, Brady, Bulger, Rivers, Kitna

3rd Round: Hasselbeck, McNabb, Roethislberger (this is in Pittsburgh so Big Ben will go earlier than most drafts)

4th Round: Delhomme, Favre, Losman, E. Manning, McNair, A. Smith

By the 7th or 8th round probably all starting QBs will be off the board.

 

[greenline]

2QB-2RB-3WR league

Last year Palmer and Manning went Rd 1

Bulger and Eli went Round 2

Eli was the only one that didn't pay off.

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

I must make this post twice a year. I have been in a 12 team, start 2QB league for 12 years now, and I have been keeping statistics on draft trends for the past five seasons. Here is how our draft typically breaks down. (Note we are required to roster 3 QBs minimum with a max of 4)Round 1: 3 QBs - in 2002 my league went insane and 7 QBs were taken in the first, since then the average is 3Round 2: 4 more QBs usually come off the boardRound 3: 5 QBs are usually draftedRound 4: 6 QBs are draftedRound 5 & 6: 5 QBs each round are drafted on average.The last NFL starting QB comes off the board by the end of the 8th or 9th round, at the latest.I love having data on my league drafting trends, it makes predicting position runs much easier.A note on strategy in these type of leagues: It is not a bad idea to draft your #3 QB a little earlier than your league mates. Having a legitimate 3rd QB (Jason Campbell, JP Losman or Steve McNair etc.) with the potential to play like a #2 QB will lead to many trade opportunities throughout the season. QBs gain value during the season due to attrition and injury at the position. So instead of drafting a questionable #3 RB in round 6 (Julius Jones, Brandon Jackson etc) I will often take the QB because it can lead to a trade for a legitimate #2 RB later in the season. Jason Campbell for Ahman Green doesn't seem like a good trade now but by week 6 when the guy with Ahman is facing the prospect of starting Cleo Lemon, DJ Shockley or Brodie Coyle for a few weeks Jason Campbell sounds much more palatable.

I have played in a start 2 qb leauge for 7 years (redraft, no ppr, varies from 10 to 12 teams) and agree with the above post. I typically end up going qb in R3 and R4, although have taken PM in R1 when drafting pick 10 or later. I will sometimes go #3 qb early, in particular if I see that one or more of my competition has not picked up their #2 qb yet and the qb pool is getting thin

Thanks Chaka and Smackdaddies

 

[burd]

I commish a league and were switching from 1 QB to 2 QB's this year. This is a 10 team league with these starting requirements 2QB/3WR/2RB/1WRRBFLEX/1TE/1K/1DEF. That's enough about my league, as I want to make this thread more about 2QB's than anyone one league. I'm looking for rankings, ADP, draft strategy and general QB talk. My feeling heading into my draft is that I am waiting to the early mid rounds (6-7) to draft my first QB, I would be happy with Kitna/Rivers/Romo as my first QB. I will of course be looking for value but I just feel that once you get past Manning/Palmer you have got a log jam of QB's not seperated by many fantasy points. What are the general FBG's thoughts on 2QB's this year?

I commish a 10-team, 2QB league as well. Knowing what the other owners are thinking is definitely helpful. For instance, i've heard from a couple of people in my league that a couple of the owners are planning on stockpiling the top QBs so that they can force lopsided trades for RBs in their favor. And the two owners who told me this info think they may be doing the same. So im in a situation where 4 teams may be spending their first 2 picks on QBs!! So in theory, by the end of the 2nd round, the top 8 QBs (at the very least) could be gone. If this happens, i'm sure other owners will follow suit and start drafting QBs as well. The owners who plan on stockpiling QBs say they want to draft 5 or 6 QBs each, so someone's going to get screwed out of enough QBs. One owner has the #2 pick and word is that he's drafting Manning, which is insane because it'll throw off everything. Supposedly, 4 QBs will go in the first round alone. So my only advice is to expect the unexpected

 

[Cajun Heat]

Here's a post I made in another thread a couple of weeks ago:

I've been in a ten team, start 2 QB league since 2001 (that was around for years before) with the following QB scoring: 1 pt/20 yds pass, 4 pts/TD, 5 pt bonus over 300 yds, -1 (or -2; it has changed) for an INT. For what it's worth, here's how the past five years have gone in terms of cumulative number of players taken by the end of each of the first five rounds:

2006

9 RB, 1 QB (Round 1)

14 RB, 3 QB, 3 WR (Round 2)

16 RB, 5 QB, 9 WR (Round 3)

18 RB, 9 QB, 13 WR (Round 4)

19 RB, 15 QB, 16 WR (Round 5)

2005

8 RB, 2 QB

15 RB, 3 QB, 2 WR

17 RB, 7 QB, 6 WR

19 RB, 11 QB, 10 WR

22 RB, 14 QB, 14 WR

2004

7 RB, 3 QB

12 RB, 4 QB, 4 WR

16 RB, 9 QB, 5 WR

18 RB, 14 QB, 8 WR

19 RB, 15 QB, 16 WR

2003

10 RB

14 RB, 3 QB, 3 WR

18 RB, 7 QB, 5 WR

18 RB, 13 QB, 9 WR

20 RB, 15 QB, 15 WR

2002

4 RB, 4 QB, 2 WR

12 RB, 5 QB, 3 WR

13 RB, 11 QB, 6 WR

17 RB, 12 QB, 11 WR

20 RB, 15 QB, 15 WR

AVERAGES:

Round One 7.6 RB, 2 QB, 0.4 WR

Round Two 13.4 RB, 3.6 QB, 3 WR

Round Three 16 RB, 7.8 QB, 6.2 WR

Round Four 18 RB, 11.8 QB, 10.2 WR

Round Five 20 RB, 14.8 QB, 15.2 WR

Overall, it's still pretty imperative that you get the stud RBs early, but you also don't want to let the QB run pass you by. You can still do well getting your QBs in Round 4 or later (I did last year), but it's a lot riskier to wait that long.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

The QB position is so volatile due to injuries and benchings, that I feel it is vital to assure myself of 2 top 15 QB's in my league. Usually I will take a QB somewhere in the first three rounds, and try to have a RB, QB and WR in the first three.

By round four or five, I've got two QB's that I am pretty sure will start the whole year and put up great to good numbers. I am willing to sacrifice on other positions, because there will be options available as the seaon progresses either off the waiver wire or from guys coming into their own. This is not usually the case at the QB position, and I do not feel like scraping the bottom of the barrel each week to find a viable QB.

QB's that will go quickly this year - Manning, Bulger, Kitna, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger (yes), McNabb (injury risk), Hasselbeck - you''ll have to make sure you do not miss out on the QB run and have to settle for a back end tier 2 and tier 3 QB. My advice - this is your first year doing this - most coaches will still stick to their RB first theory, so that gives you a little extra wiggle room. If you are at the top of the draft go RB, then hit QB and then either RB or WR in rd 2 and 3. If you are at the back of the draft, and Manning is available, take him, then get the best RB or WR in rd 2.

 

[Chaka]

I commish a league and were switching from 1 QB to 2 QB's this year. This is a 10 team league with these starting requirements 2QB/3WR/2RB/1WRRBFLEX/1TE/1K/1DEF. That's enough about my league, as I want to make this thread more about 2QB's than anyone one league. I'm looking for rankings, ADP, draft strategy and general QB talk. My feeling heading into my draft is that I am waiting to the early mid rounds (6-7) to draft my first QB, I would be happy with Kitna/Rivers/Romo as my first QB. I will of course be looking for value but I just feel that once you get past Manning/Palmer you have got a log jam of QB's not seperated by many fantasy points. What are the general FBG's thoughts on 2QB's this year?

I commish a 10-team, 2QB league as well. Knowing what the other owners are thinking is definitely helpful. For instance, i've heard from a couple of people in my league that a couple of the owners are planning on stockpiling the top QBs so that they can force lopsided trades for RBs in their favor. And the two owners who told me this info think they may be doing the same. So im in a situation where 4 teams may be spending their first 2 picks on QBs!! So in theory, by the end of the 2nd round, the top 8 QBs (at the very least) could be gone. If this happens, i'm sure other owners will follow suit and start drafting QBs as well. The owners who plan on stockpiling QBs say they want to draft 5 or 6 QBs each, so someone's going to get screwed out of enough QBs. One owner has the #2 pick and word is that he's drafting Manning, which is insane because it'll throw off everything. Supposedly, 4 QBs will go in the first round alone. So my only advice is to expect the unexpected

These owners could also be slow playing you to convince you to jump on QBs early. Caveat emptor. Trust no one.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

I commish a league and were switching from 1 QB to 2 QB's this year. This is a 10 team league with these starting requirements 2QB/3WR/2RB/1WRRBFLEX/1TE/1K/1DEF. That's enough about my league, as I want to make this thread more about 2QB's than anyone one league. I'm looking for rankings, ADP, draft strategy and general QB talk. My feeling heading into my draft is that I am waiting to the early mid rounds (6-7) to draft my first QB, I would be happy with Kitna/Rivers/Romo as my first QB. I will of course be looking for value but I just feel that once you get past Manning/Palmer you have got a log jam of QB's not seperated by many fantasy points. What are the general FBG's thoughts on 2QB's this year?

I commish a 10-team, 2QB league as well. Knowing what the other owners are thinking is definitely helpful. For instance, i've heard from a couple of people in my league that a couple of the owners are planning on stockpiling the top QBs so that they can force lopsided trades for RBs in their favor. And the two owners who told me this info think they may be doing the same. So im in a situation where 4 teams may be spending their first 2 picks on QBs!! So in theory, by the end of the 2nd round, the top 8 QBs (at the very least) could be gone. If this happens, i'm sure other owners will follow suit and start drafting QBs as well. The owners who plan on stockpiling QBs say they want to draft 5 or 6 QBs each, so someone's going to get screwed out of enough QBs. One owner has the #2 pick and word is that he's drafting Manning, which is insane because it'll throw off everything. Supposedly, 4 QBs will go in the first round alone. So my only advice is to expect the unexpected

These owners could also be slow playing you to convince you to jump on QBs early. Caveat emptor. Trust no one.

If you get fooled and lose out on stud RB's, no worries. Getting the top two QB's in the draft is not a bad thing. If you have a points per reception league, get RB's that catch the ball a lot, and likewise receivers that are possession type receivers with lots of receptions (but may not score as much). This paid off for an owner in my league last year who went on to win the championship with Manning and what you would consider terrible, unproven RB's... and a great corps of receivers.His team looked like this after the draft, picking from the #4 slot:ManningHasselbeckBoldinRoy WilliamsPlaxicoAddaiTatum BellLee EvansF GoreBurlesonD RhodesK CurtisB VolekV DavisCowboysJ ElamEagles

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

You will be surprised how quickly QB's fly off the board and at the quality RB's available much later than expected. Don't buck the trend or sleep on QB's or you'll be stuck with Rivers/Losman/Leftwich.

 

[Sweat Hog]

Don't mean to hijack but this is somewhat related.

I'm new this year to a start 2 QB league that is an auction. I love David Dodd's "perfect auction" article and agree with his advice with possibly the following exception:

He suggest allocating 11% of whatever the cap is to the QB position - but this is in a start 1 QB league and he does not address a start 2 QB league.

My question is how much more cap do I allocate for a start 2 QB league?

 

[doughboydeluxe]

You will be surprised how quickly QB's fly off the board and at the quality RB's available much later than expected. Don't buck the trend or sleep on QB's or you'll be stuck with Rivers/Losman/Leftwich.

One of my leagues switched to 2 QBs last year, and I thought I could wait and take my 1st QB in Round 5. I ended up with Plummer/Leftwich/Brooks. Oops.

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

Don't mean to hijack but this is somewhat related.I'm new this year to a start 2 QB league that is an auction. I love David Dodd's "perfect auction" article and agree with his advice with possibly the following exception:He suggest allocating 11% of whatever the cap is to the QB position - but this is in a start 1 QB league and he does not address a start 2 QB league.My question is how much more cap do I allocate for a start 2 QB league?

I have done a 2QB auction for the last 3 years (First year for draft) and have found that QB's are going to be valued close to what Rb's will be relative to their tier. So a P. Manning is going to be valued the same as a top tier RB. I would plan on spending similiar amount of money to aqcuire your top 2 QB's as you are planning on spending on your top 2 RB's. Your % of cap distribution would depend on starting requirements. If you start 2 QB's and 2 RB's and plan on rostering equal amounts of both positions I would say their cap % should be close to the same.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

If anyone has had their 2qb draft already, or will soon... The draft results of the first seven or eight rounds would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!

 

[Your Mom]

We have been doing a 2Qb league for a couple of years now. There is no way Kitna/Rivers/Romo last till the 6th/7th round in our league. Kitna and Romo will be gone by the 4th round at the latest. Rivers 5th. palmer/manning will go in the first for sure. Brady/brees/bulger will all be gone by the middle maybe late 2nd round.

I see one difference in our starting lineup requirements and that is we only have to start 1RB, but we have two flex's, so you can start 3. That will make a difference. The last couple years I have had a late pick in the first round and I load up on Wr's and Qbs. and mix in a duece Mccalister type RB in the 5th-7th round. I have finished top 3 every year, but I think not having one stud RB keeps me from winning it all.

Our draft is August 25th so I could post a couple of round on the 26th if your draft is after that.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

2QB or Not 2QB Article

QBs do fly off the board.

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

2QB or Not 2QB Article

QBs do fly off the board.

Agreed. Do you have a link to the draft in order, instead of broken up by team?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

2QB or Not 2QB Article

QBs do fly off the board.

Agreed. Do you have a link to the draft in order, instead of broken up by team?

Let me talk to Clayton and see what we can do. It's subscriber content so I can't post it here, but I may be able to have him amend it to the article.

 

[rotorooter]

i would think a league with 2 qBs and 12 twelve teams would rank QBs at least a round or two higher than a league with 10 teams.just mathematically, 2QB x12=24 leaving 8 starting QBs left. that would leave 4 teams without a possible back-up for bye weeks not even considering how bad the situation in oak and clev QBs may be. that would leave 1/4 to 1/2 league without a back-up in a bye week--a QB not putting up any stats is as good as a loss.so in my book i grab 3 qbs in the first 7 rounds for sure in a 12 league.

I must make this post twice a year. I have been in a 12 team, start 2QB league for 12 years now, and I have been keeping statistics on draft trends for the past five seasons. Here is how our draft typically breaks down. (Note we are required to roster 3 QBs minimum with a max of 4)Round 1: 3 QBs - in 2002 my league went insane and 7 QBs were taken in the first, since then the average is 3Round 2: 4 more QBs usually come off the boardRound 3: 5 QBs are usually draftedRound 4: 6 QBs are draftedRound 5 & 6: 5 QBs each round are drafted on average.The last NFL starting QB comes off the board by the end of the 8th or 9th round, at the latest.I love having data on my league drafting trends, it makes predicting position runs much easier.A note on strategy in these type of leagues: It is not a bad idea to draft your #3 QB a little earlier than your league mates. Having a legitimate 3rd QB (Jason Campbell, JP Losman or Steve McNair etc.) with the potential to play like a #2 QB will lead to many trade opportunities throughout the season. QBs gain value during the season due to attrition and injury at the position. So instead of drafting a questionable #3 RB in round 6 (Julius Jones, Brandon Jackson etc) I will often take the QB because it can lead to a trade for a legitimate #2 RB later in the season. Jason Campbell for Ahman Green doesn't seem like a good trade now but by week 6 when the guy with Ahman is facing the prospect of starting Cleo Lemon, DJ Shockley or Brodie Coyle for a few weeks Jason Campbell sounds much more palatable.

I have played in a start 2 qb leauge for 7 years (redraft, no ppr, varies from 10 to 12 teams) and agree with the above post. I typically end up going qb in R3 and R4, although have taken PM in R1 when drafting pick 10 or later. I will sometimes go #3 qb early, in particular if I see that one or more of my competition has not picked up their #2 qb yet and the qb pool is getting thin

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

2QB or Not 2QB Article

QBs do fly off the board.

Agreed. Do you have a link to the draft in order, instead of broken up by team?

Let me talk to Clayton and see what we can do. It's subscriber content so I can't post it here, but I may be able to have him amend it to the article.

That would be great, thanks!

 

[Chaka]

Paying attention to bye weeks during the draft is also very important during a 2QB draft. If your starting QBs have early bye weeks (weeks 4-5) then you should lock up a third QB a little earlier as insurance for the bye weeks. If your starting QBs have week 9-10 bye weeks then you can probably wait for a starter to hit the waiver wire due to injury allowing you to focus on other positions during the draft.

 

[burd]

so what's everyone's strategy in the following scenarios?:

1 or 2 QBs selected in round one: do you draft a QB in round one? how about round two?

QBs start flying off the board in round one (like 3 or 4 QBs): do you definitely take a QB in round two?

My strategy is to go in with the plan of going RB, RB in the first two rounds if only a couple of QBs go in round one. If 3 or 4 QBs go in round one, i think ill still draft a RB in round one, but draft a QB in round two. What do people think of this strategy? I really hate going away from drafting RB, RB since i've had success doing so, but i can see the possibility of the pool of QBs being very shallow by the end of round two.

 

[Nate]

I play in a couple 2QB leagues and in my experience you're insane to pick a WR before your QB. They're both 12 team leagues though, someone ends up without a backup/bye week filler if you aren't careful.

Tremblay's auction method in DD looks pretty good for gauging QB values in a 2QB league. I tweak the RB value a half point higher than QBs to reflect my league's tendencies.

 

[jeter23]

One of my best drafts I have ever had was in a start up dynasty league last year. We start 2 QB. I had the 1.04 and took Manning (we also get 6 points for all TDs). In the 2nd, I took McGahee. When my 3.04 pick came up, there had been no other Qbs taken, so I grabbed Palmer. After that, I took as many WRs and RBs that I could. I ended up with AJ, Benson, Turner, MJD, Maroney etc. will post my entire draft later.

 

[doughboydeluxe]

One of my best drafts I have ever had was in a start up dynasty league last year. We start 2 QB. I had the 1.04 and took Manning (we also get 6 points for all TDs). In the 2nd, I took McGahee. When my 3.04 pick came up, there had been no other Qbs taken, so I grabbed Palmer. After that, I took as many WRs and RBs that I could. I ended up with AJ, Benson, Turner, MJD, Maroney etc. will post my entire draft later.

That's just insane to only have 1 QB taken in the first 2+ rounds in a start 2 QB league. Start up dynasty or first year redraft leagues with 2 QB are so hard to figure. Sometimes you will see a league like this where QBs are ignored as people are so used to going RB-RB that they can't do anything else... sometimes you will see QBs go flying off the board in the first round as teams become afraid of getting stuck with chumps.

 

[smackdaddies]

I play in a couple 2QB leagues and in my experience you're insane to pick a WR before your QB. They're both 12 team leagues though, someone ends up without a backup/bye week filler if you aren't careful.Tremblay's auction method in DD looks pretty good for gauging QB values in a 2QB league. I tweak the RB value a half point higher than QBs to reflect my league's tendencies.

Nate is correct - no WR before QB

 

[jeter23]

One of my best drafts I have ever had was in a start up dynasty league last year. We start 2 QB. I had the 1.04 and took Manning (we also get 6 points for all TDs). In the 2nd, I took McGahee. When my 3.04 pick came up, there had been no other Qbs taken, so I grabbed Palmer. After that, I took as many WRs and RBs that I could. I ended up with AJ, Benson, Turner, MJD, Maroney etc. will post my entire draft later.

That's just insane to only have 1 QB taken in the first 2+ rounds in a start 2 QB league. Start up dynasty or first year redraft leagues with 2 QB are so hard to figure. Sometimes you will see a league like this where QBs are ignored as people are so used to going RB-RB that they can't do anything else... sometimes you will see QBs go flying off the board in the first round as teams become afraid of getting stuck with chumps.

That is what i waa thinking as I was watching this draft unfold. I double and triple checked the rules to be sure. Yep! 2 Qbs and 6 points per pass TD. I am not sure if others didn't really check the rules or what, but I was very happy.

 

[Wally Cleaver]

With the seamingly large dropoff after the first 5 or 6 qbs this year I would not be surprised to see 5 go in the first round this year of my 2qb draft...

 

[burd]

With the seamingly large dropoff after the first 5 or 6 qbs this year I would not be surprised to see 5 go in the first round this year of my 2qb draft...

see, this is what i'm afraid of. If i go RB in round one, i've got hope someone like McNabb or Kitna will be available in round 2 if 5 or 6 QBs go in round 1. Ofcourse, if 5 or 6 QBs go in round 1, that means that RBs i wasn't expecting to see in round 2 might still be there on the turn. If you're right and a run on QBs happens in round 1, then i've got to go QB in round 2.

 

[Chaka]

so what's everyone's strategy in the following scenarios?:

1 or 2 QBs selected in round one: do you draft a QB in round one? how about round two?

QBs start flying off the board in round one (like 3 or 4 QBs): do you definitely take a QB in round two?

My strategy is to go in with the plan of going RB, RB in the first two rounds if only a couple of QBs go in round one. If 3 or 4 QBs go in round one, i think ill still draft a RB in round one, but draft a QB in round two. What do people think of this strategy? I really hate going away from drafting RB, RB since i've had success doing so, but i can see the possibility of the pool of QBs being very shallow by the end of round two.

It depends on who is available when I am picking. Last season I had the #7 pick. Manning went #4 and Tiki and Rudi were both on the board with my pick. I went with Carson Palmer, I still landed FWP in the second and T.O. in the third followed by Big Ben in the fourth (& JP Losman in the 7th).When the RBs start having more question marks the consistency of a top notch QB starts to look very tempting.

 

[jeter23]

Here is my draft from a year ago that I mentioned earlier. While I had some very good (lucky) picks, I didn't remember all of the ugly picks I made. As far as the original question, in a start 2 QB league, almost every team will have a very good #1, but I think think the success comes down to the quality of your numbers 2 and 3.

1.04 4. Manning, Peyton IND QB

2.07 17. McGahee, Willis BUF RB

3.04 24. Palmer, Carson CIN QB

4.07 37. Maroney, Laurence NEP RB

5.04 44. Benson, Cedric CHI RB

6.07 57. Johnson, Andre HOU WR

7.04 64. Jones, Matt JAC WR

8.07 77. Norwood, Jerious ATL RB

9.04 84. Edwards, Braylon CLE WR

10.07 97. Turner, Michael SDC RB

11.04 104. Clayton, Mark BAL WR

12.07 117. Frye, Charlie CLE QB

13.04 124. Troupe, Ben TEN TE

14.07 137. Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB

15.04 144. Perry, Chris CIN RB

16.07 157. Schaub, Matt ATL QB

17.04 164. Porter, Jerry OAK WR

18.07 177. Scheffler, Tony DEN TE

19.04 184. Jennings, Greg GBP WR

20.07 197. Broncos, Denver DEN Def

21.04 204. Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def

22.07 217. Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK

23.04 224. Nugent, Mike NYJ PK

 

[smackdaddies]

One of my best drafts I have ever had was in a start up dynasty league last year. We start 2 QB. I had the 1.04 and took Manning (we also get 6 points for all TDs). In the 2nd, I took McGahee. When my 3.04 pick came up, there had been no other Qbs taken, so I grabbed Palmer. After that, I took as many WRs and RBs that I could. I ended up with AJ, Benson, Turner, MJD, Maroney etc. will post my entire draft later.

That's just insane to only have 1 QB taken in the first 2+ rounds in a start 2 QB league. Start up dynasty or first year redraft leagues with 2 QB are so hard to figure. Sometimes you will see a league like this where QBs are ignored as people are so used to going RB-RB that they can't do anything else... sometimes you will see QBs go flying off the board in the first round as teams become afraid of getting stuck with chumps.

Actual draft results vary for a number of reasons:-Scoring system (non ppr means QB value increases, 6pt td pass same - and the reverse can be true. Just because you start 2 doesnt mean they will have a big impact - 4pt pass td with limited bonuses or penalties means there is about 12-15 qb who will score about the same)-Shark v. Guppie drafters (Sharks are predictable, Guppies are dangerous - Guppies you cannot predict - they may draft hard early, or not realize the value and draft late - it is impossible to predict. Sharks you can count on to correctly value and then draft accordingly)-The margin for screwing up is narrow - if you are planing on QB by committee, you can get hammered quick if some folks take thier 3rd qb "early". All of a sudden you are left with Harrington and the like. Not a good place.-Getting the right sleeper can be a big bonus - bigger than in start 1 qb leagues - last year it was Brees (in my leauges) This year - Kitna? You pull the big value out in the 8th or 9th round for your 3rd qb - big help.