2 QB leagues (1 Viewer)

[TS Garp]

I'm sorry if this has been discussed -- I couldn't find it in a search due to the small number of letters in "Two" and "Qb."

Anyway.

I'm curious to hear from other owners who are in 2 QB leagues. QB's come off the board at an alarming rate in our league, i.e. as many as 6-7 QB's will be gone in the first 2 rounds, and most likely 10 will be gone by the end of the 3rd. This usually leads me to try to buck the trend and wait on QB's while loading up on RB's and WR's, hoping to pick up two solid qb's with upside later in the draft. The problem with that strategy is that it can seriously backfire on you if you're waiting on a couple of specific guys and they happen to go off the board before you expected. I've also tried something in between -- taking a QB in the first 3 rounds and then not taking another one until much later.

I'd love to hear what strategies owners are using this year in 2 QB leagues. Assuming that I don't go QB in the first 3 rounds (which I doubt I will unless I see Rodgers sitting there where I can't pass on him), my targets for my QB1 are Garrard, Ryan, Roethlisberger, and Palmer and for my QB2: Eli Manning, Hasselbeck, Edwards, and Hill. Also like the idea of Culpepper as a QB3 very late.

Looking forward to hearing some thoughts on this.

 

[flranger]

Since you didn't add your scoring system, it's pretty much impossible to hazard a guess. Assuming 4 pt td pass and no ppr I think you could go that route but I'd bet you'll wish you had better QBs. If 6 pt TD pass, I'd go QB/QB no matter what. I feel there is 4 clear top QBs, then a drop. If you can get two of those 4 you will blow people away all year until the playoffs, where you will bow out due to inclement weather.

 

[TS Garp]

Sorry, 4 pts per TD, no PPR.

 

[samNhenry]

as 6-7 QB's will be gone in the first 2 rounds, and most likely 10 will be gone by the end of the 3rd.

(which I doubt I will unless I see Rodgers sitting there where I can't pass on him), my targets for my QB1 are Garrard, Ryan, Roethlisberger, and Palmer and for my QB2: Eli Manning, Hasselbeck, Edwards, and Hill.

If that many QB's are gone and you can still get Rodgers you should get Rodgers. In my single QB league Rogers went in the third round this year immediately after Brady, Manning and Brees. There is no way you should not grab Rodgers as your lead QB if you can. The thing I have found with two QB leagues is your playing two guys so the points differential between positions is amplified. Taking a dominant WR or RB and waiting on QB's can be very deterimental.

Their is a lot more room for error with WR's and RB's. After the elite guys the points kind of even out and you can find upside guys or good fill in guys. Not so with QB's the drop is precipitous and when everyone is holding guys there is no one left on waivers to upgrade with.

In a two QB league most people probably hold 3 or maybe 4 QB's. There were only 32 QB's that scored 80 points. The difference between the number 1 and number 30 QB is 230 points. 160 for RB's and 108 for WR's. It gets worse from there. Number 50 WR and RB s are around 80 points while QBs drop into the 20's and 30's. Of course this was my leagues scoring but I imagine yours is similar.

My point is if you get stuck without decent QB's in a two QB league you are in trouble. You cannot find them on waivers and you will pay dearly in trades. The majority of the titles in our league have been won by QB dominant leagues. In fact two years ago a team with Brady and Hasselback and NO RB's and when I say NO RB's I mean it. They started Kolby Smith and Adrian Peterson (the bad one) in the final and still one. Their team had a great WR(Fitz, Jennings, AJ) group but it was the QB's that carried it. Last years the league was dominated by a similarly weak team with Cutler and Rodgers.

I personally believe the 2 QB strategy has to be buy early and buy often.

 

[stuckinthemuck]

You're likely to see Brees, Brady, and Manning go in the first 12 picks. Then you need to figure out whether you want one of the top WR's or RB's. It isn't uncommon to see them drop quickly to the second round.

If one of the top three or four QB's have already been taken and you're up you can easily grease the skids for a hectic QB run if you take Rivers or Romo as your first or second pick. It depends on how contrairian you want to be, too. Will you be OK with Ryan Grant and Kevin Smith as your starting RB's? If so, then nab those QBs quickly. If not, as you indicated, you'll find plenty of value at the top of the draft. In one draft I got MJD and Chris Johnson picking from the 4 hole with Hasselbeck and Mcnabb as my starters - solid, but not sexy. Then I turned around in another draft, took Manning and Schaub early and got mid-tier RB's and WR's. Both strategies can pay dividends with good management during the season.

 

[stuckinthemuck]

Their team had a great WR(Fitz, Jennings, AJ) group but it was the QB's that carried it. Last years the league was dominated by a similarly weak team with Cutler and Rodgers.

I personally believe the 2 QB strategy has to be buy early and buy often.

That's because the QB's were presumably taken much lower in the draft than they are currently being taken in this year's draft. Rogers wound up as ~#2 QB last year but was taken much, much lower than that. Thus, the strategy wasn't necessarily to draft two great quarterbacks early, as suggested, but to find the diamonds in the rough later in the draft while picking solid skills players earlier. To follow up with this year's draft: You might go WR-RB or WR-WR at the start to nail down top tier talent, the solid point producers, then take two Tier two or three QBs who you're convinced will reach the stratosphere a la Rogers and Culter. That's a risky strategy.

 

[Ray_T]

My league was a 10 team league (start 2 QB, standard scoring) and for years, it was fairly predictable.

We were able to keep 3 players each year.

most years, the keepers broke down like this:

RB:14-17 RB's were keepers

QB: 12-14 were keepers

WR: 1-4 were keepers.

based on this, I think it is fair to assume that by round 3 all teams should have 1 QB starter and a couple should have their QB2 on the roster as well.

of note: there was one year where the keepers were 14-14-2 but this year was an anomoly as the guy who kept 3 QB had no legitimate starting RB.

either way, our team is now a 12 team league, so QB's are kept more often now than ever before.